in some ways, i think, guided by voices has spent the past 20 years trying to match "through with buzz," and failing.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link
and robert pollard could sing "maybe he's a fairy" without the slightest hit of irony, guilt or any second thought at all.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link
these images are making me impossibly happy.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:53 (ten years ago) link
Man, I could go line-by-line on "My Rival" - they do not put a foot wrong in the lyric, undercutting every noir signifier they introduce. "I'll match him whim for whim!" It's such a great Fagen showcase, too - how his delivery underlines "whining stranger," the punchline of "he weaaaars a heaaaring aid." I love that soap opera organ too, and the cry of the backup singer at the end just melting into the air...
― bentelec, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
TOO LOW
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:59 (ten years ago) link
haha yeah on the soap opera organ
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-CpvhLBlDblo/Uz3m4YXjLHI/AAAAAAAAALU/qeaZX6d6S3I/w640-h320-no/Kings.jpg
52. KingsFrom: Can't Buy a ThrillReleased: November 1972171 Points, 9 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:05 (ten years ago) link
wasn't there some ancient ilx thread where someone was doing lolcat-style steely dan macros and a picture of don & walt with the caption "MY RIVALS - SHOW ME THEM"? it's stupid but that still cracks me up.
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link
wow, didn't expect "Kings" to make the cut
― col, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link
hot licks and rhetoricdon't count much for nothing
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link
"Kings" very narrowly missed my ballot. it sounds like a preview of some of their grander later songs with the slightly more limited band they had in the early days, which gives it its own kind of charm.
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link
"My Rival" is the first of my 20 to place. the groove and lyrics are gold. sounds like it would've fit and been by far the best track on two against nature had they saved it for some reason.
― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link
i still recall when i first heldyour tiny hand in minei loved you more than i can tellbut now it's stomping time
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:09 (ten years ago) link
"my rival" might have been my first steely dan love
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:13 (ten years ago) link
Guitar solo on "Kings" is all-time.
― J. Sam, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link
It is. CBAT was the last classic-era SD fan I bought, and to hear what was an essence a songwriting collective feel their way towards finding the right arrangements and players for the material made the album sound special. This and Aja are the transitional albums for me: there's another Dan beyond those albums powerless to be born or something.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:17 (ten years ago) link
feels like it began a something Fagen and Becker had written as an exercise or dare--can we write a song that has one-line verses?---and then managed to turn into this wonderfully bizarre little song.
judging from that fagen instructional piano video someone else posted on the voting thread, "chain lightning" also occurred as a result of an exercise, which iirc is "what if we wrote a blues that never arrived at the iv chord"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:17 (ten years ago) link
i really like "kings", but I probably like pplains' picture more.
― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:22 (ten years ago) link
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uYbbfP1YK7c/Uz3rWfAZDwI/AAAAAAAAAMA/Dxax6EaZgWc/w640-h320-no/Jack+Of+Speed.jpg
51. Jack Of SpeedFrom: Two Against NatureReleased: February 29, 2000176 Points, 8 Votes, 1 Number One
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link
haha my number one
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:28 (ten years ago) link
interesting. will have to spend some more time with this one.
― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link
he's gone — he walks through the old routines but he's gone — guaranteed
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson)
Brad!
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:30 (ten years ago) link
Amazing song, #8 on my ballot
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link
kinda curious to hear what you guys' stories are re TAN. Did you buy it in 2000?
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
I've never paid much attention to My Rival beyond the "Jolly Roger" chorus, but the story is kind of hilarious (Mike Powell called him "a pirate w a hearing aid" in a Stylus piece on Gaucho). Cool synth solo too.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
so that concludes the bonus 10 songs. reasons why i added these. first, two nights before this started i was looking at some other artist polls that were done and saw a bunch of these had more than a Top 50. second, the "My Rival" picture was already made up as both pplains and i thought is was a lock for making the Top 50. third, the "Second Arrangement" story. fourth, "Jack of Speed" getting a number 1 vote.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:34 (ten years ago) link
some of pplains best work were in those pictures, the last bunch he made up. not to say what is coming up is not great because it's actually is but i especially liked a few of those.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
Kings was one of the final songs I had to cut
― Sandy, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:33 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my dad's 50th birthday was about 2 months after the album was released. his friends threw him a big party, and i believe Two Against Nature was both one of his gifts and the soundtrack for most of the party. i didn't buy a copy and give it much solitary listening until a few years later, though, after a purchase of Citizen Steely Dan had properly immersed me in the back catalog.
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:46 (ten years ago) link
"Kings" was prob my last cut, #21.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-geOvLJDS_LY/Uz3ygoW5msI/AAAAAAAAAMw/xFffCBiVlrk/w640-h320-no/Brooklyn+%2528Owes+The+Charmer+Under+Me%2529.jpg
50. Brooklyn (Owes the Charmer Under Me)From: Can't Buy a ThrillReleased: November 1972179 Points, 9 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link
Fantastic poll graphics here.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:51 (ten years ago) link
think i first heard two against nature when i was going through like my third dan phase, and i was like, "the reunion records, those are probably good at least." when i first heard it i thought it was my favorite dan record bc it elaborated on the jazzy implications in all of the previous records; after about the third listen i realized that the tunes weren't entirely there, except for "jack of speed" and "west of hollywood."
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
both two against nature and everything must go are probably my favorite dan records lyrically at this point
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
i don't really rate 2AN or EMG that highly and in fact never got into them enough to own them but i should probably revisit, i doubt i'd have to spend more than a few bucks on the cds. though i might wait for vinyl reishes.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
"Queen Dan Approximately"
― J. Sam, Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link
Cocaine was mentioned way upthread in relation to Gaucho...what exactly was their drug intake? Becker was deep into heroin and that young girlfriend OD'd in his house. But Fagen was like an occasional user of coke and never heroin, as far as I know. Anyone?
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 4 April 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2013/06/stats.jpg
― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link
I don't even know Fagen's drinking habits. Then again, I'm always curious about boomer drinking habits after seventies excesses.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link
i will drink a zombie from a cocoa shell someday
― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link
actually, songmeanings.com must be wrong. it has to be coco shell as in short for coconut no?
― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
It's short for coconut. Cocoa beans come in big pods, but I can't imagine anyone serving a drink in them.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 April 2014 00:11 (ten years ago) link
everything else is going to have more than 10 votes.
― Bee OK, Friday, 4 April 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link
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49. Sign In StrangerFrom: The Royal Scam Released: May, 1976189 Points, 10 Votes
― Bee OK, Friday, 4 April 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link
nice, this was my #19
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:17 (ten years ago) link
hey #19!
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:17 (ten years ago) link
i always assumed 'home at last' was a sort-of it not direct sequel to 'sign in stranger', right down to the reprised melody.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link
pepe has a scar from ear to ear he will make your mug shots disappear
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 4 April 2014 00:18 (ten years ago) link
that would make sign in stranger the iliad
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 4 April 2014 00:20 (ten years ago) link