Kate Bush: Klassik or Dudd

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I still need Kick Inside and the latter 4 albums. Total bummer that you can't get the 2 bonus discs of b-sides/rarities of This Woman's Work by themselves or even on mp3. That collection costs a fortune.

Even though it isn't nearly the best, Lionheart is probably my favourite, my appreciation of her really deepened with that album. Particularly for the utterly incredible "Wow"; "In The Warm Room" is great too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

That "Running Up That Hill" is a lot better in paper than in reality. Yikes.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link

On paper.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link

"I still need Kick Inside and the latter 4 albums. Total bummer that you can't get the 2 bonus discs of b-sides/rarities of This Woman's Work by themselves or even on mp3. That collection costs a fortune."

you can find them illegally easily enough, or if you send me a personal message.

akm, Friday, 4 April 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link

It's not really a priority right now but it annoys me that those two discs don't have their own collection. How many people shelled out for that who didn't already have the studio albums in the box? I bet there is a YouTube playlist somewhere. Kind of hoping if I wait, a more complete collection will come out (I think it might have just been a alternate versions left off and I'm not really one to get excited about different mixes).

How much of it is worthwhile?

I've heard contrasting opinions on Cathy's Home Demos. Anyone here think it's worth getting?

I've also heard that the Japanese editions of her albums have superior remastering. Is this just collector bragging nonsense?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 April 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link

I have the japanese box set. It's been ages since I had the original US pressings but I don't remember there being any earth shattering difference.

akm, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link

Think it was the difference between the American CDs and the British EMI reissues with the bonus tracks. Sound on the American CDs is pretty awful โ€“ HoL in particular.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 5 April 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link

If you're a fan of her music the B-Sides/rarities are a must listen, I think. there are often some wonderful diversions from what she was doing on her albums of the time as well as surprisingly deep yet minimal pieces ("Under The Ivy", Donovan cover "Lord Of The Reedy River").

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 5 April 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link

Penman on the return

I take a different view from his reading of Bertie, its a very well realized idea and the only thing I would listen to again from Aerial

Probably agree on the majority of the piece - not that bothered to check the records. It may reflect on both Kate and the piece too. Or myself.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 10:47 (ten years ago) link

It's the best, most on-the-money thing I think I've read about her. Thanks for the link!

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 13:10 (ten years ago) link

the only thing I would listen to again from Aerial

seriously wtf

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link

I've heard contrasting opinions on Cathy's Home Demos. Anyone here think it's worth getting?

it's definitely worth a download. there are a bunch of different editions of the same material, but the best sounding version I've heard online is Alone At My Piano (hope it's ok to link to that). that particular download is sped up slightly โ€” every other version I've heard sounds unnaturally slow.

fela blecch (unregistered), Saturday, 12 April 2014 03:46 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ5ouR6p-gM

^probably my favorite unreleased demo track

fela blecch (unregistered), Saturday, 12 April 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

just read the penman essay, it's typically great but I can't really hang with the iconoclazzzm here, as with the michael jackson piece where he indulges in similar tropes of the sole clear-sighted non-kool aid drinker: part of me can't help wondering, admit it, let's face it, &c. It's annoying when lesser challop-merchants do it and it's annoying from a writer as thoughtful and incisive as penman. That said, I agree with a lot of what he says, I just draw different conclusions (I adore aerial)

forum enthusiast (wins), Thursday, 17 April 2014 09:50 (ten years ago) link

tbh felt relief reading his assessment of Aerial. I never managed to see what others saw in it

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 17 April 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link

well nobody has to like anything! but defaulting to "risk" and "edge" as intrinsically valuable allegedly missing qualities is a bit lazy I think

forum enthusiast (wins), Thursday, 17 April 2014 16:59 (ten years ago) link

I mean ok, punk orthodoxy would have an automatic antipathy towards certain moves yet some of those same critics now love kate for doing similar - maybe that's cause they were wrong and they now realise it! And the whole sting hypothetical, where if he wrote a song like "bertie" "we" would dismiss it out of hand - this is probably true, but that's a more trenchant criticism of "us" than the song imo.

And this is coming from a guy who very recently wrote a beautiful essay defending apparently "cosy" (but often unsettled) music, in the scott walker book. Or, you know, everything he says here could equally be applied to robert wyatt or whoever. I think he's getting at something, but it reads as empty contrarianism whether it is or not.

forum enthusiast (wins), Thursday, 17 April 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

TPL reaches The Whole Story and wonders who's really listening: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/kate-bush-whole-story.html

agincourtgirl, Monday, 6 October 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

Currently reading "Under The Ivy". It's breezy enough - like an extended Mojo artist bio but with great detailed descriptions of her recording process on each album. I also didn't know she was such a pothead haha.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

15 years

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 05:31 (seven years ago) link

But what the fuck do YOU think of the lass?

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

The accuracy

In honour of the fact that there is now one week left until the Oscars, here is Kate Bush as each of the ten Best Picture nominees. ๐Ÿงต

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Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 March 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

Rest In Peace Del Palmer.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 8 January 2024 18:33 (four months ago) link


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