(who's that guy singing with fagen in that demo? is that becker?)
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:16 (twelve years ago)
The "We will spend a dizzy weekend" section really catapults this song.
― Vinnie, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:17 (twelve years ago)
It may sound odd, but Parker's Band reminds me a bit of "Down on the Corner." Similar subject matter, but obviously Creedence left out the bizarre bridge.
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:19 (twelve years ago)
"Parker's Band" was my #20, and
this is why
― Euler, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:19 (twelve years ago)
I like how "Parker's Band" is about the incantatory power of Steely Dan's own music.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:19 (twelve years ago)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-frrNr49ncrQ/Uz3OMAiU0qI/AAAAAAAAAH4/6G7T04Fzv40/w640-h320-no/The+Second+Arrangement.jpg
57. The Second ArrangementUnreleased90 Points, 5 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:20 (twelve years ago)
hahaha
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:23 (twelve years ago)
"The Second Arrangement" had been a favorite of producer Gary Katz and Nichols. In late December 1979, after weeks of working on a particular recording of the track, approximately 3/4 of the song was accidentally erased by an assistant engineer who had been asked by Katz to ready the track for listening. The band attempted to re-record the track, but eventually abandoned the song entirely.
Steely Dan biographer Brian Sweet has written that the group abandoned the song in favor of focusing on "Third World Man." "The Second Arrangement" was never played live by Steely Dan until a rarities show on September 17, 2011; a studio recording of the song remains unreleased. However, a handful of demo and outtake recordings of the song exist in bootleg form.
In addition to "The Second Arrangement", a number of songs were written for the album, but ultimately left off Gaucho. A number of these songs were included on a bootleg titled The Lost Gaucho, which represents recordings from early in the album's sessions. Song titles include "Kind Spirit", "Kulee Baba", "The Bear", "Talkin' About My Home," as well as "The Second Arrangement". An early version of "Third World Man" with alternate lyrics is included under the title "Were You Blind That Day." This recording dates from the Aja sessions.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:29 (twelve years ago)
so happy "The Second Arrangement" made it (with my help!)
here's the studio bootleg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgugMZI18pc
and here's a live version from a 2011 'rarities night' show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=filvJyO89EI
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:33 (twelve years ago)
i remember the engineer story (never heard this song though). man "accidentally erasing 3/4th of an obsessively-worked-on Steely Dan track" is up there with your all-time bad days at work
― col, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:33 (twelve years ago)
The horror that engineer must've felt as Katz kept saying, "Go ahead and pot it up, we're ready. What's happening back there?"
― pplains, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:34 (twelve years ago)
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:19 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
um how on earth is that song anything but a Charlie Parker tribute?
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:34 (twelve years ago)
yeah but it's also a comment on their own music; that's how it reads to me
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:36 (twelve years ago)
Tributes and homages are by nature acknowledgments of limits or showing how far you've matched or outperformed the subject imo
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:37 (twelve years ago)
lol can you imagine Donald and Walter on album 3 going "welp, we're as good as Bird now, if not better"
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:38 (twelve years ago)
I can imagine them thinking that around album 6, true or no
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:39 (twelve years ago)
on the fine Colombian, sure
xpost
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:39 (twelve years ago)
the existence of that 2011 rarities night show really gives me a little hope that someday SD will loosen the reigns of perfectionism enough that they may do an archival project with unreleased songs. even new re-recordings of some of those old rarities would be cool.
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:40 (twelve years ago)
this poll is already making me look at the songs that have placed so car in a new light. that fuzzy little bass or low guitar line in "Monkey" is so cool.
(xp) i'm not sure all tributes/homages are specifically acknowledgments of how you've matched or not matched the subject, but i do think all tributes/homages are at least as much about the author as they are about the subject.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:40 (twelve years ago)
how the hell can Becker toss off a solo as precise and awesome as the one in that "Second Arrangement" clip? Cuz he's Walter Becker.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:41 (twelve years ago)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hp6LjbRalf8/Uz3VWyoszoI/AAAAAAAAAIo/SNtocPFlNHU/w640-h320-no/Everything+You+Did.jpg
56. Everything You DidFrom: The Royal Scam Released: May, 1976101 Points, 5 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:46 (twelve years ago)
turn up the eaglesthe neighbors are listening
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:48 (twelve years ago)
^^ the highlight of Side B
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:49 (twelve years ago)
my favorite on royal scam, and a very late drop for me. i want an office/listening room that looks exactly like that image.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:51 (twelve years ago)
also, how did "turn up the eagles..." not win the lyrics subpoll?
In the song "Everything You Did," a lyric says, "turn up The Eagles, the neighbors are listening." Glenn Frey of the Eagles said, "Apparently Walter Becker's girlfriend loved the Eagles, and she played them all the time. I think it drove him nuts. So, the story goes that they were having a fight one day and that was the genesis of the line." Given that the two bands shared a manager (Irving Azoff) and that the Eagles proclaimed their admiration for Steely Dan, this was more friendly rivalry than feud.
Later that year in a nod back to Steely Dan for the free publicity, and inspired by Steely Dan's lyric style, the Eagles penned the lyrics, "They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast" in their hit "Hotel California". Frey commented, "We just wanted to allude to Steely Dan rather than mentioning them outright, so 'Dan' got changed to 'knives,' which is still, you know, a penile metaphor."
Timothy B. Schmit, who played bass on The Royal Scam and two other Steely Dan albums, would later join the Eagles.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:52 (twelve years ago)
which is still, you know, a penile metaphor
well, yeah.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:53 (twelve years ago)
This seems like a good spot for the Steely Dan/Eagles episode of Yacht Rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb_XEwgfmDk
Didn't want to embed it and clutter the thread.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:56 (twelve years ago)
could some audiophile ID that setup? I presume it's historically accurate (1976)?
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:57 (twelve years ago)
imagining Becker-Fagen floating in a space capsule is makin' me chuckle over here
http://i.imgur.com/xdAyLkt.gif
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:58 (twelve years ago)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kuPf-3ZGxDI/Uz3ZLKhvINI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/riBpKtpBVTU/w640-h320-no/Throw+Back+the+Little+Ones.jpg
55. Throw Back The Little OnesFrom: Katy LiedReleased: March 1975132 Points, 7 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:07 (twelve years ago)
Holy crap is that image unsettling.
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:08 (twelve years ago)
a neat template for Kate Bush's first three albums
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:15 (twelve years ago)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-a2fGCkWGJXU/Uz3eJ5ogkjI/AAAAAAAAAKA/sbKChBgbd_0/w640-h320-no/Through+With+Buzz.jpg
54. Through With BuzzFrom: Pretzel LogicReleased: February 20, 1974143 Points, 7 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:22 (twelve years ago)
as noted above, the string section adds to the general fucking weirdness
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:26 (twelve years ago)
feels like it began a something Fagen and Becker had written as an exercise or dare--can we write a song that has one-line verses?---and then managed to turn into this wonderfully bizarre little song. love it
― col, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:29 (twelve years ago)
i feel like those short verses and the general structure is very much like a lot of blues songs, but obv the song isn't especially bluesy and they did away with anything like solos or extra repeats of anything and stripping it so bare is a big part of its appeal.
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:39 (twelve years ago)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w4EnXtWV8aw/Uz3jcO0XLLI/AAAAAAAAAKs/yVYKSfMNxss/w640-h320-no/My+Rival.jpg
53. My RivalFrom Gaucho Released: November 21, 1980156 Points, 7 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:43 (twelve years ago)
this would have been like 22 or 23.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:45 (twelve years ago)
pplains, these images are awesome
― Sandy, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:47 (twelve years ago)
xpHuh?
― bentelec, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:47 (twelve years ago)
we only turned in a Top 20 but if it was say a Top 30 then it would have placed somewhere around there.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:49 (twelve years ago)
my least favorite Gaucho song
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:49 (twelve years ago)
on my personal ballot i might add.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:50 (twelve years ago)
"through with buzz" was my #2. weird and wonderful. hi-fi guided by voices.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:50 (twelve years ago)
in some ways, i think, guided by voices has spent the past 20 years trying to match "through with buzz," and failing.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:51 (twelve years ago)
and robert pollard could sing "maybe he's a fairy" without the slightest hit of irony, guilt or any second thought at all.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:52 (twelve years ago)
these images are making me impossibly happy.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:53 (twelve years ago)
Man, I could go line-by-line on "My Rival" - they do not put a foot wrong in the lyric, undercutting every noir signifier they introduce. "I'll match him whim for whim!" It's such a great Fagen showcase, too - how his delivery underlines "whining stranger," the punchline of "he weaaaars a heaaaring aid." I love that soap opera organ too, and the cry of the backup singer at the end just melting into the air...
― bentelec, Thursday, 3 April 2014 22:56 (twelve years ago)