rockcrits hate cocaine
and yet think about how many fucked up classics were the direct product of cocaine abuse in the 70s!
― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:20 (ten years ago) link
it's a less realized Gaucho, although I like it.
otm
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
no more interruptions.
we shall continue.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link
are you drinking
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link
he was snorting coke, duh.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
i had something to do and no i'm not drinking.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Sx2Buh4Ggk0/Uz3EjNlsLNI/AAAAAAAAAGk/BE5UaQiNEPc/w640-h320-no/Almost+Gothic.jpg
59. Almost GothicFrom: Two Against Nature Released: February 29, 200076 Points, 4 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link
might be my favorite image.
here's my ballot for the albums poll -- from the looks of the results I was the only one who went all out and ranked all the solo albums and the live disc:
The Royal ScamCountdown To Ecstasy AjaPretzel LogicKaty LiedCan't Buy A ThrillCircus MoneyGaucho Two Against NatureSunken CondosEverything Must GoAlive In AmericaThe NightflyMorph The CatKamakiriad11 Tracks of Whack
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link
"almost gothic" is great, awesome image
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
Wow, surprised that "Almost Gothic" made it. It's a fine track but not a standout on that album for me. Then again, there's only about 60 tracks on the first seven albums.
― Vinnie, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link
i'm working on gospel time these days
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
i'm so excited I can barely cope i'm sizzling like an isotope
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WMmjeoOgQD0/Uz3LS77Ea4I/AAAAAAAAAHc/pWl2IJncpiQ/w640-h320-no/Parker%2527s+Band.jpg
58. Parker's BandFrom: Pretzel LogicReleased: February 20, 197479 Points, 4 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
can somebody do a Spotify?
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
it's like you read my mindhttp://open.spotify.com/user/1219464571/playlist/3WxVfruSRGjCsxQsrtZNuG
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
although it just occurred to me that I'm going to be super busy all day tomorrow, so I made it collaborative, people are welcome to add songs if I'm not keeping up w/ it.
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link
Soooo...Parker's Band! Like that one!
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:12 (ten years ago) link
wow that's low. though i love "parker's band" a wee bit less than i used to (the arrangement is a bit fussy, and i could do without the sibiliant S's in that first line), i still love it as both a joyful tribute to music itself and as a statement of purpose for these particular musicians: "if you can't fly, you'll have to move in with the rhythm section" would have been a good note to leave on the steely dan studio door, though by the end, of course, if you couldn't fly they wouldn't even let you into the rhythm section.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
perfectly sequenced after "East St Louis" (bop after hot jazz): Pretzel Logic is the Dan at their most earnest, jazz-nerd-wise, in its way.
― col, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
always loved the "parker's band" early version/demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfY0q7FA4H8
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
(who's that guy singing with fagen in that demo? is that becker?)
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
The "We will spend a dizzy weekend" section really catapults this song.
― Vinnie, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
It may sound odd, but Parker's Band reminds me a bit of "Down on the Corner." Similar subject matter, but obviously Creedence left out the bizarre bridge.
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
"Parker's Band" was my #20, and
this is why
― Euler, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
I like how "Parker's Band" is about the incantatory power of Steely Dan's own music.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-frrNr49ncrQ/Uz3OMAiU0qI/AAAAAAAAAH4/6G7T04Fzv40/w640-h320-no/The+Second+Arrangement.jpg
57. The Second ArrangementUnreleased90 Points, 5 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link
hahaha
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
"The Second Arrangement" had been a favorite of producer Gary Katz and Nichols. In late December 1979, after weeks of working on a particular recording of the track, approximately 3/4 of the song was accidentally erased by an assistant engineer who had been asked by Katz to ready the track for listening. The band attempted to re-record the track, but eventually abandoned the song entirely.
Steely Dan biographer Brian Sweet has written that the group abandoned the song in favor of focusing on "Third World Man." "The Second Arrangement" was never played live by Steely Dan until a rarities show on September 17, 2011; a studio recording of the song remains unreleased. However, a handful of demo and outtake recordings of the song exist in bootleg form.
In addition to "The Second Arrangement", a number of songs were written for the album, but ultimately left off Gaucho. A number of these songs were included on a bootleg titled The Lost Gaucho, which represents recordings from early in the album's sessions. Song titles include "Kind Spirit", "Kulee Baba", "The Bear", "Talkin' About My Home," as well as "The Second Arrangement". An early version of "Third World Man" with alternate lyrics is included under the title "Were You Blind That Day." This recording dates from the Aja sessions.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
so happy "The Second Arrangement" made it (with my help!)
here's the studio bootleg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgugMZI18pc
and here's a live version from a 2011 'rarities night' show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=filvJyO89EI
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link
i remember the engineer story (never heard this song though). man "accidentally erasing 3/4th of an obsessively-worked-on Steely Dan track" is up there with your all-time bad days at work
― col, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link
The horror that engineer must've felt as Katz kept saying, "Go ahead and pot it up, we're ready. What's happening back there?"
― pplains, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:19 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
um how on earth is that song anything but a Charlie Parker tribute?
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link
yeah but it's also a comment on their own music; that's how it reads to me
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:36 (ten years ago) link
Tributes and homages are by nature acknowledgments of limits or showing how far you've matched or outperformed the subject imo
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:37 (ten years ago) link
lol can you imagine Donald and Walter on album 3 going "welp, we're as good as Bird now, if not better"
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link
I can imagine them thinking that around album 6, true or no
― voodoo chili, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link
on the fine Colombian, sure
xpost
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link
the existence of that 2011 rarities night show really gives me a little hope that someday SD will loosen the reigns of perfectionism enough that they may do an archival project with unreleased songs. even new re-recordings of some of those old rarities would be cool.
― CANS.... and D? (some dude), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link
this poll is already making me look at the songs that have placed so car in a new light. that fuzzy little bass or low guitar line in "Monkey" is so cool.
(xp) i'm not sure all tributes/homages are specifically acknowledgments of how you've matched or not matched the subject, but i do think all tributes/homages are at least as much about the author as they are about the subject.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link
how the hell can Becker toss off a solo as precise and awesome as the one in that "Second Arrangement" clip? Cuz he's Walter Becker.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hp6LjbRalf8/Uz3VWyoszoI/AAAAAAAAAIo/SNtocPFlNHU/w640-h320-no/Everything+You+Did.jpg
56. Everything You DidFrom: The Royal Scam Released: May, 1976101 Points, 5 Votes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link
turn up the eaglesthe neighbors are listening
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
^^ the highlight of Side B
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link
my favorite on royal scam, and a very late drop for me. i want an office/listening room that looks exactly like that image.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:51 (ten years ago) link
also, how did "turn up the eagles..." not win the lyrics subpoll?
In the song "Everything You Did," a lyric says, "turn up The Eagles, the neighbors are listening." Glenn Frey of the Eagles said, "Apparently Walter Becker's girlfriend loved the Eagles, and she played them all the time. I think it drove him nuts. So, the story goes that they were having a fight one day and that was the genesis of the line." Given that the two bands shared a manager (Irving Azoff) and that the Eagles proclaimed their admiration for Steely Dan, this was more friendly rivalry than feud.
Later that year in a nod back to Steely Dan for the free publicity, and inspired by Steely Dan's lyric style, the Eagles penned the lyrics, "They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast" in their hit "Hotel California". Frey commented, "We just wanted to allude to Steely Dan rather than mentioning them outright, so 'Dan' got changed to 'knives,' which is still, you know, a penile metaphor."
Timothy B. Schmit, who played bass on The Royal Scam and two other Steely Dan albums, would later join the Eagles.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link
which is still, you know, a penile metaphor
well, yeah.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:53 (ten years ago) link
This seems like a good spot for the Steely Dan/Eagles episode of Yacht Rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb_XEwgfmDk
Didn't want to embed it and clutter the thread.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link