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"Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.

"A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.

"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.

"Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the s--t out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' "

The detective said she then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant ... who did not answer.

"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'

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"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'

"Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.

"Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.

"Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.

"Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.

"Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle ... and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.

"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.

"She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.

"Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."

At the end of his statement, Andrews said Brown sent her text message apologizing nine days later.

"In the text message, Brown apologized for what he had done to Robyn F. and advised [the second personal assistant] that he was going to get help."

3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

It identified the woman only as his girlfriend, Robyn F. Rihanna's full name is Robyn Rihanna Fenty.

how did i not know this

3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Latest news (in Belgian newspapers lol) is that they got married in secret?

StanM, Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

holy fucking shit, that is awful

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean he almost killed her

3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

that is even crazier than what I assumed happened

I mean, he had her in a headlock as he drove down the street? wtf

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

innocent until proven guilty, etc, but holy shit

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

;_;

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

srsly

Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Brown sent her text message apologizing nine days later.

^^ is it bad that this part incensed me as much as the details of the actual violence?

puff puff passantino (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

probably, but I had the exact same reaction

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I think its un-fucking-believable that she is back together with him. Indefensible, really. This sets a horrible example for young girls being abused by boyfriends and how its "okay". It makes me sick just thinking about it, especially after a recent story I saw where 40% of high school students polled(male AND female) said she probably "deserved it".

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

kids don't know how to pick up the phone - my brother sent 1000 texts in dec., a majority to his gf, and i never once in that month heard him pick up the phone and talk to her once

3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I think its un-fucking-believable that she is back together with him. Indefensible, really. This sets a horrible example for young girls being abused by boyfriends and how its "okay". It makes me sick just thinking about it, especially after a recent story I saw where 40% of high school students polled(male AND female) said she probably "deserved it".

― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:00 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

1) its totally unclear whether or not theyre actually back together

2) what survey

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link

kids don't know how to pick up the phone - my brother sent 1000 texts in dec., a majority to his gf, and i never once in that month heard him pick up the phone and talk to her once

says some dude on a message board

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

It was a survey of teenagers in Chicago, trying to find the original article right now.

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

good comparison other jordan

3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

kids don't know how to pick up the phone - my brother sent 1000 texts in dec., a majority to his gf, and i never once in that month heard him pick up the phone and talk to her once

― 3/5/09: today, we were all banned (J0rdan S.), Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

putting aside generation gaps, changing technology, etc. "nine days" is kind of a big part of my reaction there, ESPECIALLY considering that his first big public statement on the matter (which was as much about people claiming to be him on Facebook as it was about the incident) was EIGHT days after the incident. that it was a text message is just the icing on the cake.

puff puff passantino (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

actually i don't care that the kids text instead of talk on the phone, it's that they text constantly while carrying on conversations in real life.

but anyway, back to the sad and fucked up situation at hand.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Found the original article, but the stats have been pulled out of it. They may have been proven bullshit, so I retract that part of my earlier post. Still, just frustrates me the example this sets for young girls.

(xx-post)

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i'm not usually one for holding celebs responsible for 'setting an example' but there's something really chilling about the message that would send and how this whole thing has kind of played out in public opinion

let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I think its un-fucking-believable that she is back together with him. Indefensible, really. This sets a horrible example for young girls being abused by boyfriends and how its "okay". It makes me sick just thinking about it, especially after a recent story I saw where 40% of high school students polled(male AND female) said she probably "deserved it".

― ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:00 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

okay are you saying it's indefensible on her part? people who have been in protracted abusive relationships often have a hard time leaving them because of the psychological damage inflicted. given what she's been through, it's kind of horrible to heap blame on her for her victimization.

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i think we all may want to hold off on being mad at shit until rihanna actually makes a statement abt whether shes getting back together with dude

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i mean this is an ongoing problem in these types of cases right?

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm more horrified at her father's "I will support whatever decision she makes" stance, which I fervently hope actually means "I will kill that boy if he ever comes near my daughter again".

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm certainly not blaming her for her victimization, I just think its a shame that how this is playing out is certainly going to have an impact on the thousands of young girls that look up to her as some sort of role model.

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I also council holding back on making judgments on how this is playing out until it actually plays itself out.

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I love how everyone was eating up every piece of rumor TMZ spit out when this first thing broke, but now everyone is all "whoa whoa hold on, let's wait for an official statement".

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

the way this has played out in public is not rihanna's fault. this

a recent story I saw where 40% of high school students polled(male AND female) said she probably "deserved it"

is a bigger cultural problem, not something that rihanna could magically make go away by leaving chris brown. i mean, i hope to god she leaves him, too, but i think people who get all righteous about what the victims should do in these situations have no idea what they're talking about.

xposts okay jon, i see what you're saying.

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I think you're looking at different subsets of "everyone" there.

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I think you're looking at different subsets of "everyone" there.

― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, March 5, 2009 4:18 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark

no no no not this one again - at least a day off from the politics of "everyone"

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm certainly not speaking from the point of knowing how she should be reacting, my original post was worded badly. I'll just be really disappointed if she does get back together with him and it all kinda gets swept under the rug. Because, silly or not and like it or not, she is a role model and this will certainly make an impact on how some girls may treat a potentially abusive relationship.

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

hey now 1 of my best friends is everyone

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha point taken

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Lots of real people think they should not get back together.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

has everyone heard of kevin smith?

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

who?

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

she is a role model and this will certainly make an impact on how some girls may treat a potentially abusive relationship.

okay but shouldn't this line go, "chris brown is a role model and shouldn't have beaten anybody up"? i think there's a real tendency to get all into what victims of domestic violence (and rape, for that matter) should be doing to get themselves out of/avoid those situations but it always reads to me as a displacement--they're not the problem. it's harder to deal with what to do about victimizers, i know; but their behavior should be viewed as the source of the fucked-up attitudes we're talking about.

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

that was horribly put; sorry, i got heated.

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Of course! I thought that part kind of went without saying though.

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

like, rihanna owes it to herself and her well-being to leave this asshole, but lets not put it on her if some young girl who loves "Umbrella" gets beaten by her boyfriend.

xpost well, i just think the way these conversations go is frustrating.

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess I just wish she'd be very public about "fuck that guy and what he did", which is of course ridiculous to expect after all she's been through. Not blaming her in the least, just wishing it had played out in a slightly different way.

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i know you know this, but if you're in a relationship where you get beaten like that you are in engaged in a daily erosion of your sense of self-worth. she can't be a rad action hero right now--she's going to need to recover.

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah...I think most people are working from the premise that regardless of how it started, how he handles the aftermath, or what happens to him as a result, CB is pretty squarely the 'bad guy' here and people are little less concerned about what message he sends as a role model now that he's, uh, nobody's role model. And ultimately everything that happens from here on out (whether they get back together or he goes to jail or his career is damaged beyond repair) rests on what she does and says now, which is why we're speculating on her actions and not his.

let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

^
tbomb

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i know you know this, but if you're in a relationship where you get beaten like that you are in engaged in a daily erosion of your sense of self-worth. she can't be a rad action hero right now--she's going to need to recover.

― horseshoe, Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:30 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ 1 thing thats impt to remember is that its easy to cast this like the first & only time it happened which makes it seem odd that she not immediately condemning him--but unfortunately theres no reason to assume that it hadnt been a regular occurrence, maybe not as serious. and if thats the case--if in the past hed been abusive and the police WERENT called and it WASNT the grammies and he had apologized or what have you and she came back--it isnt that bizarre to see why its not an immediate cut-off reaction from her--its just that its public for the first time

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm not entirely sure that he's nobody's role model. i read a quote by ne-yo somewhere defending him (i realize that they're friends and i do sympathize with ne-yo's position somewhat, but the language he used seemed to suggest that even if, as alleged, rihanna's injuries were at cb's hands, "we still don't know the whole story," which wtf?) i think attitudes like that are more characteristic of a culture where a bunch of people might think the victim of domestic violence deserved it than a victimized person not being sure if she's worth saving.

xpost

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't I see somewhere that Kanye defended him as well?

ban everyone imho (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

There were a lot of guys saying this, largely I think because many of them are thinking "oh shit, the squeaky-clean poster boy superstar just threw the 'angry nigger' tag on his shoulders, how do we stop that".

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Kanye doesn't count, he just made an album about strangling girlfriends

let "free dom" ring (some dude), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link


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