Mama Can't Buy You Love: The Official ILM Track-By-Track ELTON JOHN 1978-1988 Listening Thread

"Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters, Part 2"

http://youtu.be/k8gAY-NM6Hg

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/Elton%20John/elton-22-sized.jpg

I couldn't find it separate from the classic original.

yeesh, hearing those back to back does the sequel little favors. Again with the bellowing, again w/the hateful synth stabs, and there's barely a melody in the chorus. Because there's just not enough going on in overworked thing, we get a few quotes ("CIT-AY!" like Stevie Wonder; a "Drive My Car" beep-beep-yeah) too. At a loss, EJ turns things over to Freddie Hubbard, who gasses on for about a minute.

"boy, i hope he plays 'Mad Hatters Part 2 tonight!" said no one at an Elton John concert ever

it made me realize what a thing of beauty the original is.

what's with the "Wrap Her Up" production?

the original is my favorite elton john song. those two-part harmonies with himself melt me. "part 2" is no "your gold teeth 2," let's just say that.

Elton in the wild: "Nikita" softly playing over the PA in the supermarket this morning

"I Don't Wanna Go on With You Like That"

http://youtu.be/Wyi9AbfUa1E

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Wyi9AbfUa1E/hqdefault.jpg

A #2 in America, his biggest hit under his own name since "Don't Go Breaking My Heart." I can't deny how generic it sounds on, but after years of Taupin's excesses the simplicity of the lyric reads like poetry. Elton's first great vocal in years too ("one more set OF BOOTS on your welcome MAT"). As a kid the finger snap percussion fascinated me; it didn't sound like anything else at the time. Finally, an excellent (and again simple) keyboard solo from EJ himself. Everyone sounds like he's having fun.

My parents used to always have the AC stations on in the car growing up, and they played a lot of 80's and 90's Elton John (and not much of his 70's). "I Don't Wanna Go On" was one of my favorite tracks of his at the time, and it still holds up pretty well. I like the chord change in the chorus on "I just wanna tell you honey" that lightens up the song for just a second. For some reason, the simple structure works much better for me here than in say, "Sad Songs". And yeah, the ending solo is great.

The song has vanished though. I don't hear it at all, and even at the time it was a bigger video hit 'round my part of the world.

Protegé George Michael and his "Monkey" kept it from #1 btw.

My frustrations so far w/Reg Strikes Back was that I'd hoped it be a lot more like the single, instead of following the mid-'80s Elton formula of hit + sorta-okays + dreck.

But "I Don't Wanna Go On" holds up---EJ sounds pissed, even saucy ("got plans to make me one'a FOUR or FIVE") his agitation matched by the ceaseless thwacks on the off-beats and how he keeps shuffling back the refrain so that there's never a break in the fight (so the bridge, when it finally appears, is a relief, as is the coda solo). It sounds far more contemporary than the rest of EJ's generation were in '88, though agree it's sort of vanished in the past decade.

is this it for "rock" Elton? The rest of his big singles to come are all ballads, unless i'm forgetting something

TS: "I Don't Wanna Go On..." vs "Roll With It"

EJ in a walk. "Roll With It" has far too many "this is real soul music" signifiers, very Baby Boom Reconquista. Elton's single sounds like hip-hop by comparison

I like this. A reasonable sequel to "I'm Still Standing", almost

"Roll With It" is unabashedly, Traffic-copping retro, "Go On With You" isn't

In honor of Frankie Knuckles, let me note that those high synth block chords floating over the piano line are gorgeous.

Yeah I guess I haven't heard it in a while on the radio, but there aren't too many songs from this latter-day period that I hear outside the house anymore. Pretty much just the Lion King songs, maybe "Sacrifice" once in a blue moon.

"Japanese Hands"

http://youtu.be/44TzJSmsAt4

http://davidmcgough.com/photos/thumbs/Sting,%20Elton%20John%201988%20NY.jpg

well, small mercies: Elton managed to avoid using any offensive musical cliches, like the "Oriental" guitar riff ("China Girl," "Turning Japanese" etc). But then he has to sing Taupin lines like "sitting cool behind your painted fan" and "beneath those oriental combs," so it's all for naught

still singing about chicks too – that's most offensive

also: are they like healing hands?

like a massage therapist's, maybe

"Goodbye Marlon Brando"

http://www.paroles-musique.com/eng/Elton_John-Goodbye_Marlon_Brando-lyrics,p86445

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2009/11/26/1259238162313/Marlon-Brando-in-Don-Juan-001.jpg

apparently he performed this one a bit.

a rocker! "say goodbye to GLASNOST!...goodbye to DY-UT SOODA!" it's the pissed, put-upon figure of "Don't Wanna Go On With You Like That," now flipping off the entire world. So the track's suitably cheap and ugly: that synth beat sounds like it was lifted off the back of a truck. Basically Elton's take on T. Petty's "Jammin' Me."

The first interesting discovery since the first side of TLFZ. The guitar is closer to hair metal and it suits him; for once the carnival barker tone suits him. His attempt to write "God"? He did sell his costumes at Sotheby's that year.

"The Camera Never Lies"

http://youtu.be/-lDmol4Lfbc

http://a395.idata.over-blog.com/1/41/08/76/BERNIE-8/Elton-John-1988.jpg

say goodbye to diet soda?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOkzRZWMLKA

what about the one with Paula Abdul?

80s-Elton-by-numbers, sung well & given a kick midway through w/ some fun piano runs, as if EJ had gotten bored while listening to a track playthrough

"Heavy Traffic"

http://youtu.be/LnsqaNRTQTc

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UYViqG0MWng/0.jpg

We're back to the tone and approach of 'Religion" but not it smerits. Brisky strummed acoustic guitars and EJ's cocktail piano anchor a just-another-day-in-the-burbs scenario about a guy gettin' high on "apple juice and cocaine" while his mate makes PCP in the basement.

points given: a fairly fresh sound, with the acoustic guitars and piano, and a mix so airy (at least in the verses) it sounds like Neu! by comparison to some of the gunked-up tracks on this album; one line sounds like EJ's muttering "Paul McCartney". points taken: Bernie Taupin using '80s TV movies as pointers as to what "kids these days" are up to; chorus singers wouldn't make the cut for a Lloyd Webber show

it's a better "We Didn't Start the Fire."

"Poor Cow"

http://youtu.be/14ageaewAMs

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/4/24/1366818866351/Terence-Stamp-in-Poor-Cow-008.jpg

(had to break the Elton-photo rule, given the title)

"Since God Invented Girls"

http://youtu.be/R-L3wpisJOM

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2012/06/51147134.jpg

John Broadbent4 years ago

This song gives me a boner. ....Shaped it like an hourglass, and made the angels moan. Oh, here's a little heat boys, to straighten out them curls. Now there ain't been no angels 'round since God invented girls!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn

What the bloody hell is this garbage?

what a way to go out, Elton. Nicely encapsulates the worst of his '80s, though: desperate affirmations of heterosexuality, blustery singing, fretless bass, Taupin too bored to even be cryptic.

forget to say something on "Poor Cow": not bad, esp compared to today's turkey. sounds like EJ trying to be Squeeze in places

Well, Babylon & On-era Squeeze.

more like Babylon & On-era outtakes, to be fair

one more song to go?

Two, if you can find the live "Medley" that was on some editions of the 12" of A Word In Spanish. Includes Elton covering a bit of Leon Russell's A Song For You ("an American classic" per EJ). Then goes into a couple of classics we've already featured itt. Would be nice to finish on an upbeat note... if that's in the spirit of the thread?

I want to review the Aretha collab "Through The Storm."

"Rope Around a Fool"

http://youtu.be/kzD6hHzKkBQ

Elton listen to "Dixie Chicken" before cutting this one? Chorus is a bit ungainly but this is better than at least half of Reg

well, couldn't find the medley Jeff was talking about, so here's The End, a last duet w/Aretha:

"Through the Storm"

http://youtu.be/M44suQXkucQ

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/86/Through_the_Storm.jpg/220px-Through_the_Storm.jpg

an apt title summation

alright, Pearls From Elton's Lost Years (a guide to people who don't want to slog through this whole thread):

Part Time Love
It Ain't Gonna Be Easy
Mama Can't Buy You Love
Chasing the Crown
Breaking Down Barriers
Blue Eyes
Dear John
Ball and Chain
I Guess That's Why They Call It the Blues
I'm Still Standing
Too Low For Zero
Religion
Breaking Hearts
Nikita
Lord of the Flies (hey it stuck in my head)

what else?

This was illuminating -- like the Eagles thread it confirmed what I knew. The surprises: the so-called late seventies minor singles like "Part Time Love"; learning that Jump Up! has almost as many good to great songs as TLFZ.

My list, longer than yours (and hey -- where's "I Don't Wanna..." on yours?)

Ego
Part Time Love
It Ain't Gonna Be Easy
Chasing the Crown
Breaking Down Barriers
Elton's Song
White Lady White Powder
Ball and Chain
Dear John
I Guess That's Why They Call It the Blues
I'm Still Standing
Too Low For Zero
Religion
Breaking Hearts
Nikita
I Don't Wanna Go On With You Like That
Goodbye Marlon Brando

i would add:

shooting star
cold as christmas

and maybe:

passengers

oh right! "Cold as Christmas" def