Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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And yeah UMS, jam crowd loves jams and if you deliver they are yours (and prioritize live music, which is of course where money is at these days for the most part). I mean the upside is a devoted fan base, the downside is that some of that fan base is occasionally awful, but then again any crowd/fan base is gonna be complicated with any kind of real success. For these folks though they are delivering music that should excite that crowd.

grandavis, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:59 (twelve years ago)

'sup grandavis, sorry we missed each other!

cosign on the Hayden album, I gotta keep an eye out for that

sleeve, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:00 (twelve years ago)

breweries? no way, they should play outdoor amphitheaters
i wish i could be in a solar motel band -- that's my dream for this summer

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:16 (twelve years ago)

there were definitely noodle dancing jam fans at the chicago solar motel band show btw

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:16 (twelve years ago)

(not me)

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:16 (twelve years ago)

i played in a band in the late 90s that was super typical 90s underground rock, think like elements of pavement & archers of loaf with a little more macho math rocky or angular stuff, time signatures of bands like polvo, shellac, etc

but we ended up doing a bunch of shows with this jam band called karma sluts and they were nice dudes that dug us a lot and the shows always went great! like the crowd was huge and the jam band fans always really got into us...actually because they didn't know any of the indie/post-punk bands we referenced i think they thought we were like super creative haha, but anyway we always sold a lot of cds and t-shirts and stuff so we kept doing it

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:18 (twelve years ago)

Hey sleeve, sorry that week got so complicated. Next time!

Solar Motel Band was actually the only band that sounded GREAT at the Paradise of Bachelors outdoor day party last year (which was just an astoundingly pretty outdoor amphitheater), but that was more to do with the inadequate P.A. than the bands. They just had big enough amps to pull it off, plus no vocals to get in the way. Well, check that, Lonnie Holley also sounded great.

Couple noodle dancers at that PoB show too. I somehow resisted the groove ....

grandavis, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:21 (twelve years ago)

show last night went great....was fun to meet global who's a nice guy and a really amazing player....the kirar set was great too, such a cool instrument kind of splitting the difference between desert blues stuff and appalachian hammered dulcimer...

felt like i played ok...have a tendency to get nervous and take songs at a breakneck pace, then halfway through i'm hanging on for dear life....but didn't make too many bad mistakes

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 March 2014 19:43 (twelve years ago)

It was such a fun time! It was great to get my guitar out of my bedroom and into the world, as it were. I really enjoyed the kirar, was definitely hypnotic, and Estifanos was a super awesome dude, too. I enjoyed your shit a lot, also- your songs are really awesome and well crafted. Such good melodies! And ya, super cool to meet you. Didn't get as much time to chat as I thought, but c'est la vie. The only drawback is that it was after 11 at a bar and people were getting chatty, so it was hard to hear some of your stuff sometimes. I guess a bar maybe isn't like the most conducive environment for instrumental music, but I guess I'd rather play at a bar than a coffee place (I really enjoy drinking beer). Overall a fun night and one I want to make happen again... a guy I met after suggested the Kitty Kat Club, although I get an oppressively hip vibe from that place, so I dunno how weird instrumental stuff would go over there but never hurts to try I guess.

Which Cian Nugent album were you talking about last night, anyway? I admit ignorance when it comes to the 'Nuge.

global tetrahedron, Friday, 28 March 2014 23:12 (twelve years ago)

i like the Kitty Kat Club as a place to play actually...

i need to get a pickup for my guitar...

new cian nugent is born with the caul, p amazing

but yeah fun nite overall

Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 29 March 2014 01:46 (twelve years ago)

Saw Nathan Salsburg last night, in a tiny room above a pub in Hampshire - a great little venue, and a real privilege to be close enough to catch the phlegm from his hayfever cough!

Chinaski, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 08:49 (twelve years ago)

Would love to see Salzburg

new Bums tonight! Listening to Jacobites to get psyched

Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:41 (twelve years ago)

New Bums were great... After the show I got to talk to chasney for abt 15 minutes.. Awesome guy, we talked about Nick Drake, Fahey, Metzger, Nikki Sudden, and Grant Hart

He gave me a new guitar tuning,his main one he uses Dgdgad, might try that

Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:27 (twelve years ago)

yeah that's quite nice, think i tried it out when going through the million nick drake tunings.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:37 (twelve years ago)

all these guitar dudes seem like such bros. mark mcguire, albeit not really in this vein to the same extent, is also a bro. met him briefly after a show recently and he was the nicest guy.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:38 (twelve years ago)

Yeah he was totally cool & chill
I was surprised he said that Drake is his favorite more than fahey

Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:44 (twelve years ago)

yeah, when i interviewed him a million years ago he said this:
"I used to listen to Kottke and Jansch, though I was never a Fahey fan. I like his writing more than his music. If I had my way I would make it a worldwide law that nobody could play the acoustic guitar for at least 5 years. It's so boring. Just last night I was playing in London and I just kept thinking, "nobody likes this. This is totally fucking boring and trash and bullshit. Acoustic guitar sucks." I wanted to get up and put something on the stereo, like Aerosmith, but I had to play. Needless to say it was an embarrassing show and one that made me question my existence. I am very sorry to the people in London who showed up. My sincere apologies."

tylerw, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:50 (twelve years ago)

Ha funny...
It's true though, Drake is such an icon figure for this kind of depressed spectre image ppl have of him that I think he gets overlooked as being really IMO one of the great UK folk guitarists of his generation
Completely singular player

Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:53 (twelve years ago)

you guys i saw mark mcg at big ears and his decision to add singing + canned beats is really not a good one (imo)
i like his guitar playing a lot, and i'm a NEOH native so i have allegiance in that regard as well AND he seems like a decent person but his singing/song construction choices are just not to my liking
a lady asked me before the show what he sounds like and i tried several different ways to describe his sound and finally i was like "there are no rough edges" which seemed fairly appropriate given his new direction

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Friday, 4 April 2014 15:55 (twelve years ago)

haha, "no rough edges" is kind of dead on.
and yeah Nick Drake... he's pretty unbelievable as a guitarist -- obviously he learned a lot from jansch/renbourn/graham, but he took it to a different place. where those guys have a rangier/jazzier side, Drake is just so pristine.

tylerw, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:57 (twelve years ago)

xp to LL

ha I have his new record in the car, doing a review for my radio station, and this

his decision to add singing + canned beats is really not a good one (imo)

was exactly what I was thinking yesterday as it was playing

sleeve, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:58 (twelve years ago)

I like the new mcguire but I get that criticism. ha when I saw him he played one long beautiful track for twenty minutes, and after that was finished said "I'm going to play one more song, thanks" and then played another twenty minute piece.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 4 April 2014 16:02 (twelve years ago)

like, i know it's easier for him to tour alone or w/e but there are definitely better rhythm sections available
i also don't expect mark mcg to come out sounding super gnarly but i think some organic sounds would complement his playing instead of bury it

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Friday, 4 April 2014 16:07 (twelve years ago)

Ha funny...
It's true though, Drake is such an icon figure for this kind of depressed spectre image ppl have of him that I think he gets overlooked as being really IMO one of the great UK folk guitarists of his generation
Completely singular player

― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, April 4, 2014 10:53 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nick drake is one of those dudes i got into when i was in HS/college (somehow, i honestly don't remember? like maybe a RS article about belle and sebastien?? kill me) and it still bums me out that he's turned into this avatar of corny earnestness, like jeff buckley or the koln concert (ninth grade and early 20s respectively)

gbx, Saturday, 5 April 2014 01:33 (twelve years ago)

You shouldn't be killed for Belle and Sebastien :)
Used to love them, saw them live at one point too.

It's strange how most people go through the drake albums very early on, then venture deeper into this stuff and sort of forget about him, or move on. I was certainly one of them.

Neal Cassady, Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:47 (twelve years ago)

just came across this, sounds like this guy has some brigade appeal

https://m.soundcloud.com/ryo0ooooooooo/ryo-takematsu-six-o-seven

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 6 April 2014 19:10 (twelve years ago)

amazing night last night playing with howling hex and new bums! definitely the most fun i've had at a show that I was actually performing at.
the hex was crazy -- after I spent the last week describing what they were going to be like to friends, hagerty comes out w/ just his drummer and does a set of hardcore covers. finally talked a little bit with neil after seeing him play 8-9 times now. he wanted to talk about doug yule, which was good.
new bums were pretty masterful, it was great to see chasny playing finally. such a cool guitarist. hopefully the new bums aren't just a one-off, I really love the record.
somewhat related to the thread -- chasny said he was starting his own label and putting out a tashi dorji LP later this year.

tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:51 (twelve years ago)

a set of hardcore covers

such as? please make me even more envious

sleeve, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:52 (twelve years ago)

What did he have to say about Doug Yule?

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 16:53 (twelve years ago)

neil h seems cool. interested in a possible tashi dorji lp

ogmor, Monday, 7 April 2014 16:55 (twelve years ago)

they opened with this one, played it for like 10 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyth855rGp8
closed with "psycho" by the sonics (which isn't hardcore of course, but was sort of played hardcore style).
re: yule, my band had played a weirdo version of "waiting for the man" and he was talking about how he just heard the post-Reed VU live stuff and was surprised by how much he liked it.

tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:00 (twelve years ago)

hee-eee found a reason to keep living; and the reason is doug yule
sounds like a great show!! i hope you had good turnout.

Mayor Manuel (La Lechera), Monday, 7 April 2014 17:03 (twelve years ago)

haha, i wouldn't say it was an amazing turnout, but it was OK, and there was a friendly vibe. everyone had fun i think.
hex drummer said that the bassist was sick so they just decided to do something different.

tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:08 (twelve years ago)

http://distilleryimage4.ak.instagram.com/cc29071cbe6111e38b20124d02dddc8c_8.jpg
here's the pic I took of the hex's set, it really captures the mood.
but fortunately i figured out I had my camera on a weird setting by the time the bums were onstage
http://distilleryimage11.ak.instagram.com/9e2f7c76be2311e3a742120ef9859af7_8.jpg

tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:10 (twelve years ago)

new bums was really great but i do think a drummer wouldn't hurt IMO

Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 April 2014 17:15 (twelve years ago)

Wow that first picture is actually kinda neat

Evan, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:20 (twelve years ago)

haha i know! if the hex makes a shoegaze record they should use that as the cover.

tylerw, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:23 (twelve years ago)

Chasny played all acoustic when I saw New Bums, but that was a while ago. Always good live though, and fun to watch play (that show sounds great Tyler, very cool you got to play on that bill). Also cool he is starting a label and putting out a Dorji record, as I am obviously a fan. Wanna see him live too, so hopefully he'll hit the road for that when it comes out.

grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:23 (twelve years ago)

Hey Al, that Ryo Takematsu stuff sounds nice, though I just listened to the preview soundcloud, which doesn't give a full picture. Seems like a good enough player but there are some really weird effects on that stream, wonder if they are on the record at all or just there for the segues between the snippets of the album (or set of 7"s or whatever it is)? Maybe more interesting if some of that shows up on the songs themselves ....

grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 17:26 (twelve years ago)

yeah i was wondering about the whole album but i couldn't find much in the way of embeddable clips when i was searching around for more. ha i found out about him when looking up the hashtag #johnfahey on instagram! someone was spinning his lp.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 7 April 2014 18:29 (twelve years ago)

the new Vin Du Select Qualitite series is shipping now
http://vdsqrecords.com/

VDSQ 007 - Anthony Pasquarosa

VDSQ 008 - Sir Richard Bishop

VDSQ 009 - Aaron Sheppard

VDSQ 010 - Bill Orcutt <3

VDSQ SE - Special Edition box set

Neal Cassady, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:05 (twelve years ago)

Coming soon
Matthew Mullane- Hut Variations LP
Glenn Jones- Changing Ships On A Falling Tide 7"

Neal Cassady, Monday, 7 April 2014 19:05 (twelve years ago)

VDSQ guy is the same guy who wrote the upcoming Fahey biography, right?

grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 20:03 (twelve years ago)

i don't know :/ - I haven't heard much about that biography either other than passing mention.

Daniel Bachman's new one for Bathetic, "Orange Co. Serenade", is gonna be great too. Got passed along the files and his lap stuff is getting really good.

Neal Cassady, Monday, 7 April 2014 21:40 (twelve years ago)

Just checked, and yeah same Lowenthal: http://www.thewire.co.uk/news/26412/john-fahey-biography-on-the-way-in-2014

Bathetic is a cool label, cool to see Daniel getting around. Since it'll be Bathetic will it be more out/free? Would like to see him cut loose with the slide/lap steel a bit.

grandavis, Monday, 7 April 2014 21:47 (twelve years ago)

Apparently the Ryley Walker album is available for streaming via selftitledmag: http://soundcloud.com/selftitledmag/sets/ryley-walker-all-kinds-of-you/s-i8uma

Haven't listened yet, but surely of interest to a bunch of folks here.

grandavis, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 14:45 (twelve years ago)

yay! been waiting on that one

Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 15:04 (twelve years ago)

wow this is gorgeous...loving the more UK, pentangle feel

Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 15:22 (twelve years ago)

great drummer on this too

Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 15:22 (twelve years ago)

yeah the band sound is excellent on this -- who is the drummer? is it the dude from cave or did make that up?
i really like it a lot -- it's so deeply UK 70s that when it starts I'm kinda like "oh it's a pastiche" but it's so well done that I don't really care.

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 15:42 (twelve years ago)


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