Mama Can't Buy You Love: The Official ILM Track-By-Track ELTON JOHN 1978-1988 Listening Thread

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palate cleanser: http://youtu.be/2hcXdtqojFg

col, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 13:50 (twelve years ago)

"I Fall Apart"

http://youtu.be/soWK6-6sx1s

http://assets-s3.rollingstone.com/assets/images/gallery/500x595/9cac0aa5b424aadaa7d14521571a784b40b6bc1a.jpg

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 March 2014 11:41 (twelve years ago)

ye gods. best match of title and photo we've had yet

col, Thursday, 27 March 2014 12:37 (twelve years ago)

to me the album's best ballad. I'm going on memory: I'll have more to say in a little while.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 March 2014 12:37 (twelve years ago)

He does tug a bit hard on those verses, like he's trying to pull off a George Michael impersonation (that' s his idea of eighties soul).

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 March 2014 13:24 (twelve years ago)

yeah, he's trying to regain a bit of dignity here, and trying a bit too hard---all the thundering on his piano bass keys in the bridge. Some interesting production touches for once--is that reversed guitar towards the end?

Leather Jackets is not good at all, but it's not substantially worse than the previous two. Those just benefited by having at least one good single to orbit the lesser tracks around. So when you've got the Cliff Richard duet and "Heartache All Over the World" as your centerpieces, you've got trouble.

col, Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:20 (twelve years ago)

OK, so let's recap.

A Single Man: OK, not worse than, say, Caribou. "Part-Time Love" has taken permanent residence in my brain.

Victim of Love: As gross as its reputation suggests, although a couple of track suggest he could've pulled a Philly/disco crossover if he'd had the songs.

21 at 33: Faceless.

The Fox: Worse.

Jump Up!: The discovery. Were it not for the last third, it'd be his best since 1975.

Too Low For Zero: Same.

Breaking Hearts: He's losing focus.

Ice on Fire: More offensive than Leather Jackets.

Leather Jackets: Breaking Hearts without "Sad Songs..."

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:33 (twelve years ago)

I'm pretty much the same. Victim of Love is by far the most flat-out awful album of the set for me. I don't even remember 21 from 33 anymore, so faceless, yes. I have a slight preference for Fox over 21 as the former is Elton trying to do something new on it---some sort of art-schlock European-oriented conceptual thing. It's an interesting failure, at least.

Curious whether the next album is indeed the proper "comeback" or no.

col, Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:45 (twelve years ago)

B-side blast:

"Highlander" B-side of "Heartache All Over the World"

http://youtu.be/s0TtLTe1RAE

col, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:21 (twelve years ago)

"Billy and the Kids" "Slow Rivers" B-side

http://youtu.be/UE5FjZeT9E4

col, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:22 (twelve years ago)

and "Lord of the Flies", another "Slow Rivers" b

http://youtu.be/21Qw1zy8-_Q

http://davidmcgough.com/photos/Elton%20John,%20wife,%20Renata%201986%20NY.jpg

col, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:24 (twelve years ago)

the "Highlander" theme is EPCOT music.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:24 (twelve years ago)

"Lord of the Flies" is the best thing he recorded in '86, IMO. Why did he bury this?

col, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:25 (twelve years ago)

"Town of Plenty"

http://youtu.be/2alDsRygZC4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/MadScntst/appearances/1980s/19880708aids/324.jpg

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2014 12:46 (twelve years ago)

We're in Reg Strikes Back territory, another comeback.

He's lost the ability to rock persuasively, and the arrangement is hamhanded (the synth stabs are gross; his voice is swathed in echo). Not terrible but I wouldn't play it again. And dig the "Kids Incorporated" video.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2014 12:48 (twelve years ago)

looks like i'm gonna have to hear Jump Up then.

piscesx, Saturday, 29 March 2014 13:13 (twelve years ago)

thank God we're out of the mullet years at last. Starting to see the "grand dame" Elton look of the '90s emerge.

this one's overbearing: EJ pushes the verse as loudly as he does the chorus and he hectors you half the time, while the production buries the (admittedly irritating) keyboard hooks. Bernie does his part by rhyming "media" with "media"

col, Saturday, 29 March 2014 13:57 (twelve years ago)

"A Word in Spanish"

http://youtu.be/QUBDJ3Kyv0c

http://img.youtube.com/vi/QUBDJ3Kyv0c/0.jpg

The second single but I don't remember it.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:00 (twelve years ago)

video reminds me of "Domino Dancing" -- young man as object of lust in tropical climate.

As for the song, it would be prettier if he didn't sing it like a carnival barker.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:02 (twelve years ago)

yeah, what's with the oversinging on this album so far? It's like after the vocal chord operation he's hell-bent on exploiting his restored pipes. Plus maybe some delight from being out of his marriage & David Geffen's grasp (a bio has EJ calling his Geffen era "six years of pure hell")

"Spanish" goes on a minute longer than it needs to, and Johnstone's "Spanish" acoustic guitar solo is as inevitable as it's dull, but there does seem to be a touch more life in these songs than in the past trio of albums.

col, Sunday, 30 March 2014 14:15 (twelve years ago)

"Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters, Part 2"

http://youtu.be/k8gAY-NM6Hg

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/Elton%20John/elton-22-sized.jpg

I couldn't find it separate from the classic original.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 March 2014 12:04 (twelve years ago)

yeesh, hearing those back to back does the sequel little favors. Again with the bellowing, again w/the hateful synth stabs, and there's barely a melody in the chorus. Because there's just not enough going on in overworked thing, we get a few quotes ("CIT-AY!" like Stevie Wonder; a "Drive My Car" beep-beep-yeah) too. At a loss, EJ turns things over to Freddie Hubbard, who gasses on for about a minute.

col, Monday, 31 March 2014 13:28 (twelve years ago)

"boy, i hope he plays 'Mad Hatters Part 2 tonight!" said no one at an Elton John concert ever

col, Monday, 31 March 2014 13:29 (twelve years ago)

it made me realize what a thing of beauty the original is.

what's with the "Wrap Her Up" production?

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 March 2014 13:40 (twelve years ago)

the original is my favorite elton john song. those two-part harmonies with himself melt me. "part 2" is no "your gold teeth 2," let's just say that.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 31 March 2014 17:19 (twelve years ago)

Elton in the wild: "Nikita" softly playing over the PA in the supermarket this morning

col, Monday, 31 March 2014 18:33 (twelve years ago)

"I Don't Wanna Go on With You Like That"

http://youtu.be/Wyi9AbfUa1E

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Wyi9AbfUa1E/hqdefault.jpg

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 11:03 (twelve years ago)

A #2 in America, his biggest hit under his own name since "Don't Go Breaking My Heart." I can't deny how generic it sounds on, but after years of Taupin's excesses the simplicity of the lyric reads like poetry. Elton's first great vocal in years too ("one more set OF BOOTS on your welcome MAT"). As a kid the finger snap percussion fascinated me; it didn't sound like anything else at the time. Finally, an excellent (and again simple) keyboard solo from EJ himself. Everyone sounds like he's having fun.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 11:05 (twelve years ago)

My parents used to always have the AC stations on in the car growing up, and they played a lot of 80's and 90's Elton John (and not much of his 70's). "I Don't Wanna Go On" was one of my favorite tracks of his at the time, and it still holds up pretty well. I like the chord change in the chorus on "I just wanna tell you honey" that lightens up the song for just a second. For some reason, the simple structure works much better for me here than in say, "Sad Songs". And yeah, the ending solo is great.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:31 (twelve years ago)

The song has vanished though. I don't hear it at all, and even at the time it was a bigger video hit 'round my part of the world.

Protegé George Michael and his "Monkey" kept it from #1 btw.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:42 (twelve years ago)

My frustrations so far w/Reg Strikes Back was that I'd hoped it be a lot more like the single, instead of following the mid-'80s Elton formula of hit + sorta-okays + dreck.

But "I Don't Wanna Go On" holds up---EJ sounds pissed, even saucy ("got plans to make me one'a FOUR or FIVE") his agitation matched by the ceaseless thwacks on the off-beats and how he keeps shuffling back the refrain so that there's never a break in the fight (so the bridge, when it finally appears, is a relief, as is the coda solo). It sounds far more contemporary than the rest of EJ's generation were in '88, though agree it's sort of vanished in the past decade.

is this it for "rock" Elton? The rest of his big singles to come are all ballads, unless i'm forgetting something

col, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:45 (twelve years ago)

TS: "I Don't Wanna Go On..." vs "Roll With It"

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:47 (twelve years ago)

EJ in a walk. "Roll With It" has far too many "this is real soul music" signifiers, very Baby Boom Reconquista. Elton's single sounds like hip-hop by comparison

col, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:50 (twelve years ago)

I like this. A reasonable sequel to "I'm Still Standing", almost

"Roll With It" is unabashedly, Traffic-copping retro, "Go On With You" isn't

Lee626, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:52 (twelve years ago)

In honor of Frankie Knuckles, let me note that those high synth block chords floating over the piano line are gorgeous.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:53 (twelve years ago)

Yeah I guess I haven't heard it in a while on the radio, but there aren't too many songs from this latter-day period that I hear outside the house anymore. Pretty much just the Lion King songs, maybe "Sacrifice" once in a blue moon.

Vinnie, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 14:56 (twelve years ago)

"Japanese Hands"

http://youtu.be/44TzJSmsAt4

http://davidmcgough.com/photos/thumbs/Sting,%20Elton%20John%201988%20NY.jpg

col, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 12:44 (twelve years ago)

well, small mercies: Elton managed to avoid using any offensive musical cliches, like the "Oriental" guitar riff ("China Girl," "Turning Japanese" etc). But then he has to sing Taupin lines like "sitting cool behind your painted fan" and "beneath those oriental combs," so it's all for naught

col, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 14:26 (twelve years ago)

still singing about chicks too – that's most offensive

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 14:29 (twelve years ago)

also: are they like healing hands?

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 16:02 (twelve years ago)

like a massage therapist's, maybe

col, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 17:50 (twelve years ago)

apparently he performed this one a bit.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 11:44 (twelve years ago)

a rocker! "say goodbye to GLASNOST!...goodbye to DY-UT SOODA!" it's the pissed, put-upon figure of "Don't Wanna Go On With You Like That," now flipping off the entire world. So the track's suitably cheap and ugly: that synth beat sounds like it was lifted off the back of a truck. Basically Elton's take on T. Petty's "Jammin' Me."

col, Thursday, 3 April 2014 13:32 (twelve years ago)

The first interesting discovery since the first side of TLFZ. The guitar is closer to hair metal and it suits him; for once the carnival barker tone suits him. His attempt to write "God"? He did sell his costumes at Sotheby's that year.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:43 (twelve years ago)

"The Camera Never Lies"

http://youtu.be/-lDmol4Lfbc

http://a395.idata.over-blog.com/1/41/08/76/BERNIE-8/Elton-John-1988.jpg

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 April 2014 11:17 (twelve years ago)

say goodbye to diet soda?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOkzRZWMLKA

piscesx, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:40 (twelve years ago)

what about the one with Paula Abdul?

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 April 2014 13:17 (twelve years ago)

80s-Elton-by-numbers, sung well & given a kick midway through w/ some fun piano runs, as if EJ had gotten bored while listening to a track playthrough

col, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:20 (twelve years ago)

"Heavy Traffic"

http://youtu.be/LnsqaNRTQTc

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UYViqG0MWng/0.jpg

col, Saturday, 5 April 2014 12:10 (twelve years ago)


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