Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

Yeah, that new one is great - totally got the Popol Vuh thing down, but it's varied enough to be enjoyable on its own terms. Gotta get his other records.

BTW ilx brigade showcase this Thursday in MPLS, me & global t. are playing a show (African Kirar player up thread also on the bill)

haha, ilx brigade showcase, love it. gonna be a fun night!

this plankton wat is really cool. hard to tell how composed each song is. they almost sound like improvisations with added textures and stuff

Was waiting for this one to go down, psyched to see it is happening. Hope MPLS is ready for the ILX brigade takeover.

good luck dudes! will there be a bootleg.

live album of my android phone recording of this on tompkin's square for Record Store Day

(and thanks! been practicing like a motherfucker)

Will check all bootlegs out, whether crappy android phone recordings or otherwise. Make it happen!

only listen to pono now so if you guys can make that happen that'd be swell

coupla things I've heard recently -- the glenn jones record store day thing is excellent, though much too brief. one solo live track, a beautiful duet with jack rose and an even more beautiful duet with cian nugent. i'd like a whole live disc of jones, dude has it dialed in.
william tyler band EP is fucking stellar, just so good. will be the ultimate driving music this summer. rother cover fulfills all kraut-country-rock dreams.
hayden pedigo's forthcoming album (which he's mentioned in this thread) is really something else, too!

I really want to hear how that Pedigo record came about. Such a crazy list of collaborators, and guy is very young (right)? I assume it is long-distance file/track sharing, but still such a wild set of guests. I assume it would have to be something else (and Hayden can play really well of course).

Also, I sincerely hope that Glenn Jones finds a reason to come to my town/city at least once a year for the rest of his or my life. He is just such a damn enjoyable guy to listen to. I mean, even if he is still telling the same stories in 5 years I will enjoy them all over again and be psyched for the tunes. Hope he has a new full-length in the works too, think his from last year was my most-played record (still put it on all the time).

I'm dying for those Glenn Jones and William Tyler records.

was saying over on twitter that there needs to be a cian nugent & the cosmos / chris forsyth & solar motel band / william tyler band tour of US stadiums this summer. if stadiums don't work, maybe they should play craft breweries.

Yeah saw that. All-star jam at the end would be pretty killer. Just get a big bus and load-em all in. Aquarium Drunkard Rolling Revue?

Probably a broken record on this kind of thing, but there (seemingly) is real potential for those bands to cross over into more lucrative territories (which might still happen at some point). I was largely unsuccessful in trying to get a crossover crowd at the Forsyth show here, but turnout was still decent. I wanted to see how a bunch of folks weened on Phish/The Dead/Led Zeppelin/Zappa/etc. would dig them and for the most part didn't really get to see. My town is tiny though, and getting folks out to any show that isn't a big/established act is tough. Also, it would maybe be tougher on these bands than the typical jam-set to deal with the resulting crowds/people.

hayden has posted here a couple times iirc

was saying over on twitter that there needs to be a cian nugent & the cosmos / chris forsyth & solar motel band / william tyler band tour of US stadiums this summer. if stadiums don't work, maybe they should play craft breweries.

― tylerw, Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:32 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i would die

also i feel like the Ryley Walker album should be out by now...when does that come out?

these guys should all embrace the jam crowd, those ppl actually come out and are loyal fans, you don't have to worry about pitchfork changing their mind about you in 6 months

Though you might overhear someone yelling "sweet licks bro!" at the stage

Well, you gotta embrace the noodle dance as well if you are going to go deep.

And yeah UMS, jam crowd loves jams and if you deliver they are yours (and prioritize live music, which is of course where money is at these days for the most part). I mean the upside is a devoted fan base, the downside is that some of that fan base is occasionally awful, but then again any crowd/fan base is gonna be complicated with any kind of real success. For these folks though they are delivering music that should excite that crowd.

'sup grandavis, sorry we missed each other!

cosign on the Hayden album, I gotta keep an eye out for that

breweries? no way, they should play outdoor amphitheaters
i wish i could be in a solar motel band -- that's my dream for this summer

there were definitely noodle dancing jam fans at the chicago solar motel band show btw

(not me)

i played in a band in the late 90s that was super typical 90s underground rock, think like elements of pavement & archers of loaf with a little more macho math rocky or angular stuff, time signatures of bands like polvo, shellac, etc

but we ended up doing a bunch of shows with this jam band called karma sluts and they were nice dudes that dug us a lot and the shows always went great! like the crowd was huge and the jam band fans always really got into us...actually because they didn't know any of the indie/post-punk bands we referenced i think they thought we were like super creative haha, but anyway we always sold a lot of cds and t-shirts and stuff so we kept doing it

Hey sleeve, sorry that week got so complicated. Next time!

Solar Motel Band was actually the only band that sounded GREAT at the Paradise of Bachelors outdoor day party last year (which was just an astoundingly pretty outdoor amphitheater), but that was more to do with the inadequate P.A. than the bands. They just had big enough amps to pull it off, plus no vocals to get in the way. Well, check that, Lonnie Holley also sounded great.

Couple noodle dancers at that PoB show too. I somehow resisted the groove ....

show last night went great....was fun to meet global who's a nice guy and a really amazing player....the kirar set was great too, such a cool instrument kind of splitting the difference between desert blues stuff and appalachian hammered dulcimer...

felt like i played ok...have a tendency to get nervous and take songs at a breakneck pace, then halfway through i'm hanging on for dear life....but didn't make too many bad mistakes

It was such a fun time! It was great to get my guitar out of my bedroom and into the world, as it were. I really enjoyed the kirar, was definitely hypnotic, and Estifanos was a super awesome dude, too. I enjoyed your shit a lot, also- your songs are really awesome and well crafted. Such good melodies! And ya, super cool to meet you. Didn't get as much time to chat as I thought, but c'est la vie. The only drawback is that it was after 11 at a bar and people were getting chatty, so it was hard to hear some of your stuff sometimes. I guess a bar maybe isn't like the most conducive environment for instrumental music, but I guess I'd rather play at a bar than a coffee place (I really enjoy drinking beer). Overall a fun night and one I want to make happen again... a guy I met after suggested the Kitty Kat Club, although I get an oppressively hip vibe from that place, so I dunno how weird instrumental stuff would go over there but never hurts to try I guess.

Which Cian Nugent album were you talking about last night, anyway? I admit ignorance when it comes to the 'Nuge.

i like the Kitty Kat Club as a place to play actually...

i need to get a pickup for my guitar...

new cian nugent is born with the caul, p amazing

but yeah fun nite overall

Saw Nathan Salsburg last night, in a tiny room above a pub in Hampshire - a great little venue, and a real privilege to be close enough to catch the phlegm from his hayfever cough!

Would love to see Salzburg

new Bums tonight! Listening to Jacobites to get psyched

New Bums were great... After the show I got to talk to chasney for abt 15 minutes.. Awesome guy, we talked about Nick Drake, Fahey, Metzger, Nikki Sudden, and Grant Hart

He gave me a new guitar tuning,his main one he uses Dgdgad, might try that

yeah that's quite nice, think i tried it out when going through the million nick drake tunings.

all these guitar dudes seem like such bros. mark mcguire, albeit not really in this vein to the same extent, is also a bro. met him briefly after a show recently and he was the nicest guy.

Yeah he was totally cool & chill
I was surprised he said that Drake is his favorite more than fahey

yeah, when i interviewed him a million years ago he said this:
"I used to listen to Kottke and Jansch, though I was never a Fahey fan. I like his writing more than his music. If I had my way I would make it a worldwide law that nobody could play the acoustic guitar for at least 5 years. It's so boring. Just last night I was playing in London and I just kept thinking, "nobody likes this. This is totally fucking boring and trash and bullshit. Acoustic guitar sucks." I wanted to get up and put something on the stereo, like Aerosmith, but I had to play. Needless to say it was an embarrassing show and one that made me question my existence. I am very sorry to the people in London who showed up. My sincere apologies."

Ha funny...
It's true though, Drake is such an icon figure for this kind of depressed spectre image ppl have of him that I think he gets overlooked as being really IMO one of the great UK folk guitarists of his generation
Completely singular player

you guys i saw mark mcg at big ears and his decision to add singing + canned beats is really not a good one (imo)
i like his guitar playing a lot, and i'm a NEOH native so i have allegiance in that regard as well AND he seems like a decent person but his singing/song construction choices are just not to my liking
a lady asked me before the show what he sounds like and i tried several different ways to describe his sound and finally i was like "there are no rough edges" which seemed fairly appropriate given his new direction

haha, "no rough edges" is kind of dead on.
and yeah Nick Drake... he's pretty unbelievable as a guitarist -- obviously he learned a lot from jansch/renbourn/graham, but he took it to a different place. where those guys have a rangier/jazzier side, Drake is just so pristine.

xp to LL

ha I have his new record in the car, doing a review for my radio station, and this

his decision to add singing + canned beats is really not a good one (imo)

was exactly what I was thinking yesterday as it was playing

I like the new mcguire but I get that criticism. ha when I saw him he played one long beautiful track for twenty minutes, and after that was finished said "I'm going to play one more song, thanks" and then played another twenty minute piece.

like, i know it's easier for him to tour alone or w/e but there are definitely better rhythm sections available
i also don't expect mark mcg to come out sounding super gnarly but i think some organic sounds would complement his playing instead of bury it

Ha funny...
It's true though, Drake is such an icon figure for this kind of depressed spectre image ppl have of him that I think he gets overlooked as being really IMO one of the great UK folk guitarists of his generation
Completely singular player

― Raptain Chillips (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, April 4, 2014 10:53 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nick drake is one of those dudes i got into when i was in HS/college (somehow, i honestly don't remember? like maybe a RS article about belle and sebastien?? kill me) and it still bums me out that he's turned into this avatar of corny earnestness, like jeff buckley or the koln concert (ninth grade and early 20s respectively)

You shouldn't be killed for Belle and Sebastien :)
Used to love them, saw them live at one point too.

It's strange how most people go through the drake albums very early on, then venture deeper into this stuff and sort of forget about him, or move on. I was certainly one of them.

just came across this, sounds like this guy has some brigade appeal

https://m.soundcloud.com/ryo0ooooooooo/ryo-takematsu-six-o-seven

amazing night last night playing with howling hex and new bums! definitely the most fun i've had at a show that I was actually performing at.
the hex was crazy -- after I spent the last week describing what they were going to be like to friends, hagerty comes out w/ just his drummer and does a set of hardcore covers. finally talked a little bit with neil after seeing him play 8-9 times now. he wanted to talk about doug yule, which was good.
new bums were pretty masterful, it was great to see chasny playing finally. such a cool guitarist. hopefully the new bums aren't just a one-off, I really love the record.
somewhat related to the thread -- chasny said he was starting his own label and putting out a tashi dorji LP later this year.

a set of hardcore covers

such as? please make me even more envious

What did he have to say about Doug Yule?

neil h seems cool. interested in a possible tashi dorji lp

they opened with this one, played it for like 10 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyth855rGp8
closed with "psycho" by the sonics (which isn't hardcore of course, but was sort of played hardcore style).
re: yule, my band had played a weirdo version of "waiting for the man" and he was talking about how he just heard the post-Reed VU live stuff and was surprised by how much he liked it.

hee-eee found a reason to keep living; and the reason is doug yule
sounds like a great show!! i hope you had good turnout.