Curve: C or D?

Ned, what is this cover of Overground you speak of? You mean the Siouxsie track? I def. should check that out

This is deeply ludicrous, of course. The thing that initially attracted me to Curve was the juxtaposition of Toni's great melodic lines against the feedback/dance beat. Plus there are always those huge bass lines...

Damn right.

this is true. live they seemed pretty dull, it was all a bit thick and blurry. their love for swervedriver was always offputting too.

http://www.curve.co.uk/news.htm

So, speaking of Curve, is there any way to get all those recent (and out of print) EPs besides sending a check to Dean?

"Perish" is beyond awesome. It's also the saddest noise-rock track ever.

anyways .. i definitely side on the CLASSIC. that cold hearted drum machine pounding away while the noise shreds the paintwork and toni does her echoed goth thing is just wonderful and fits in perfectly with my current moods.

but more to the point .. did all cd copies of the album come with doubled up inner sleeves as a spin off from the album name .. or is that just me being a little too nerdy ?

its not just me .. (have images of ilmers dashing off to archives to check .. )

but ta for the love anyways ned .. backatcha gorgeous.

13 years after the albums release we all finally get the bands 'joke'.

(I also have not yet gotten around to getting Doppelganger, cos I've got both the above and - rather later - the Radio Sessions comp. It's quite nice knowing that at sometime in the future I've still got "new" early Curve to listen to...)

(but anything curve stamped will be on my bins-radar from hereon thats for sure ..)

The similar Smile compilation by Ride was import only for a couple of years but Creation eventually released that in the UK, shame Anxious records couldn't do the same.

Was Gala by Lush released in the UK? I bought that 2nd hand but I think that's a US import as well.

HORROR HEAD

Re-listening to those early EPs, one of the big factors that made them interesting is that "viscous" bass sound they used for instance on 'Coulour Hurts' or 'Fait Accompli'

I bought one of their albums once and couldn't stand it even though they supposedly sounded like stuff I did like.

You know, it's been a long time since I heard Gift -- fantastic album.

They just weren't very good. It's really quite sinful to suggest otherwise.

They just weren't very good. It's really quite sinful to suggest otherwise.

And you're just knee-jerk hating jackass. Cosmic balance is restored.

Missed this a few weeks ago, but I'm enjoying the continually mounting ILM evidence that Bimble and I are actually the same person:

TS: Curve's "Horror Head" vs. Garbage's entire discography

Did Scylla (Toni Halliday's band between Curve breaking up and getting back together again) ever release anything apart from 1 song on the Showgirls soundtrack? I saw them live in '95 and they were quite good.

"And you're just knee-jerk hating jackass. Cosmic balance is restored."

Why would I hate knee-jerks?

in addition to being not very good they also screwed up a potentially fine jamc album with their pedal hopping overproduced agenda setting ways

Huh?

honey's dead.

What, because the drummer played on it??

...with trademark overly fussy curve drumming. and the producer produced it. with a wall of nasty curve fx gloss.so, yes.

well Alan Moulder produced half of the records that came out around that time, so I wouldn't define him as the Curve producer, but anyway... Still my fave JAMC album with 'Psychocandy'

Yeah it seems a little unfair to blame Curve just for having the same producer as them!

honey's dead sounds specifically modeled on curve to me, it has the same studio tricks, the same bombast, the same drumming, the same fussiness. i initially totally loved hd and also the ten little boys ep but found they both palled pretty quickly. robin guthrie made a similiar mess of felt's ignite the seven canons. assuming bands with vaguelly aligned aethetics would benefit from the same production job.

Next you're going to be claiming that MBV "sound like Curve" on account of production links.

It's a strange and revisionist attitude to take.

Oh wait, it's reverse sexism, isn't it, claiming that Curve wrote all the songs of every band Moulder worked with because Halliday and Moulder were an item at the time? ;-)

CW can't admit that at the time JAMC were a bunch of lazy sods who were too out of it to get it together for an album. I saw them at Lollapalooza in '92 and again in '93 and both times they stunk in a completely non-interesting way. It didn't help that Spiritualized and Curve were opening up for them too.

classic

Toni Halliday's appearance on Leftfields "Original" = Classic!

I'm happy for them, but there were a few things from Toni that popped out at me as to why they moved:

Firstly, our beloved whippet died, and we were devastated.

I was brought up in the Mediterranean on a boat as a child.

This second one made me google, and assuming she's telling the truth, I found this old, odd nugget:

Toni Halliday, now 27-years-old, was born in Fulham, West London. Between the ages of 4 and 8 she cruised the Mediterranean with her father, mother and sister. Her father was a hippy crook who supported his family by ransacking yachts of the rich and famous. "we'd dock in somewhere" remembers Toni "and my dad would choose the flashiest yacht in port. Then he'd take the owners to the bar, get them drunk and go back and raid their yacht. We'd be gone before they had time to get a hangover".

Eventually Toni's father dumped his family in Greece, declaring to his wife in tones Toni still remembers as bizarrely matter-of-fact that he no longer loved her. Mother and daughters returned to England moving from London to Sunderland in the industrially-depressed North East. Toni has not seen her father since.

"I think he's in jail in Spain". she says.

Anyway. They clearly moved for the apparent tax benefits of the Antigua Citizenship by Investment (CBI) program:

No Worldwide Tax: No taxes are imposed on foreign-sourced income, capital gains, or inheritance.
0% Income Tax: There is no personal income tax on income earned within or outside the country.
Corporate Tax Exemptions: International Business Corporations (IBCs) can enjoy 0% tax on profits.
Property Tax: A low real property tax of 0.1%–0.5% applies to the assessed market value.

Tempting, lol!

This band rules.