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Well, the thing about some of the other great albums (e.g., UC, WG) is they're aiming toward a different sound. If you like the 'Ptah' and 'Journey In Satchidananda' aspects of Alice it doesn't necessarily follow that you'll like her other stuff.

I personally *prefer* her more mystical, string-laden music. I think it's absolutely beautiful and unique. In fact, the only song I really like on Transcendence is "Prema"---and it's mostly due to the beautiful string arrangement.

"Lord of Lords" also has some great pieces, like her rendition of Stravinsky's "Firebird," and the beautiful, joyous "Going Home."

― Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

cool, thanks for the info. the only other AC CD i have is the most recent one, which strikes me as more of a grab-bag of various styles. i've heard a couple songs from the more string-laden releases and dig that too. but "journey" is really knocking my socks off currently. can't quite believe i hadn't heard it up until a few months ago! it's got a really amazing, sustained groove throughout that i don't think i've heard anywhere else. and the more eastern instrumentation mixed with that harp mixed with pharoah sander...wow!

― Tyler Wilcox (tylerw), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Mmm. Have been revisiting her catalogue lately and I can't help but feel that Alice is immensely underrated. Listening to pieces like "Transcendence" just corroborates how *unique* her sound is.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Monday, 26 December 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

listening to huntington ashram monastery at the moment, and i like it. dont seem to be a huge amount of mentions for this one, is it considered one of the 'lesser' ones?

― terry lennox. (gareth), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 12:20 (twenty years ago)

I imagine it's because you can't get it on CD

― Dadaismus PBUH (Dada), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 12:24 (twenty years ago)

... therefore hardly any of us have heard it!

― Dadaismus PBUH (Dada), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 12:26 (twenty years ago)

It is available on CD, though, as a Japanese import. It was recently reissued. I'm sure you can find it cheaper somewhere else.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but you'll be a dear and rip it for us, right?

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Fine. Huntington Ashram Monastery. Enjoy.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know if "Ptah..." has been reissued on vinyl ala "Journey in Satchidinanda"? I could have sworn I saw it in the record shops awhile back but now I can't find it anywhere?

I also would dearly love to find the cassette-only recordings. It seems that Ed Michel produced at least one of them.

The live album (Transfiguration?) is really, really good. Haynes & Workman are ideal sidemen for her. Anybody ever hear her album with Santana?

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 21:49 (twenty years ago)

from my first post of the thread: Illuminations - this is an album put out between Alice and Carlos Santana. it's from 74 and is pretty heavy fusion. good if you like fusion (i do).

she also arranged some songs on one of his albums "Welcome". it's pure white with the word Welcome embossed on the cover

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for that, Turangalila!

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:21 (twenty years ago)

OOPS. Well, that's pretty much how I imagined it sounded. I think I've run my course with fusion for the time being. The next ones to get on the list are her album with Joe Henderson and "Lord of Lords".

I hope she cuts another album in considerably shorter time than the gap between her last 2. Harp would be nice for the next one.

I'd also like to see the quadrophonic stuff reissued on multichannel SACD.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

wow, looking at the liners to Welcome closer, Leon Thomas sings (or whistles) on a majority of the tracks. and Flora Purim sings on one track. i can't believe i've never really listened to this.

― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:24 (twenty years ago)

Is there a way to open that zip file on a Mac?

― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 01:42 (twenty years ago)

if you're on OSX, click on the file, do apple+i (get info) and say open with Stuffit Expander instead of BOMArchiveHelper.

― team jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 02:12 (twenty years ago)

Thanks so much Turangalila and jaxon. It sounds great so far.

― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 03:23 (twenty years ago)

Is the sound supposed to be slightly distorted?

― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 03:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, seems like the masters for both Lord of Lords and HAM sound awkwardly distorted.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 03:32 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Turangalila!

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 06:45 (twenty years ago)

js, you guys have Huntington at the station ...

Thanks for the Alice recommendations; I'd been avoiding her for some reason. She's critically underrated.

― Brakhage (brakhage), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 16:27 (twenty years ago)

js just told me about the Huntington Ashram rip--and the dl limit has already been reached. Damn! Could some fine person repost through ysi? Pretty please? I loves me some Alice Coltrane, especially some I haven't heard in years. I've got the rest--other than the brand new one--on vinyl and/or cd. The HAM is the missing link for me. Pretty pretty please?

― J Arthur Rank (Quin Tillian), Friday, 10 February 2006 04:48 (twenty years ago)

Huntington Ashram Monastery

― Turangalila (Salvador), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Brakhage! How you doin'? How's the West Coast? Have you thrown your lot in with Death Row yet, or are you still reppin' Bad Boy?

― js (honestengine), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Aieeeee! Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /download/(etc. etc.)

Why me, lord?

― J Arthur Rank (Quin Tillian), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:11 (twenty years ago)

use rapidshare.de, yo

― team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Huntington Ashram Monastery (Rapidshare.de)

― Turangalila (Salvador), Friday, 10 February 2006 23:52 (twenty years ago)

you're a good man, charlie brown

― team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 February 2006 23:57 (twenty years ago)

thank you thank you thank you. rapidshare seems to be working (yo).

― J Arthur Rank (Quin Tillian), Saturday, 11 February 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the YSI.

― Harpal (harpal), Saturday, 11 February 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I just wanted to add my thanks for sharing that album. Very generous.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:32 (twenty years ago)

I'll add my thanks, too. I just finally listened to HAM this morning. Four times. It's amazing. The rhythm section really just kills. I need to get Monastic Trio.

― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:13 (twenty years ago)

ten months pass...

There's a rumor (AAJ) that Alice Coltrane has passed away.

― R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

What the FUCK?!?!?!?!

― Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

Please someone clarify this now.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

Nooooooooo. I really really really don't want this to be true.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

wiki page has been updated.
thread over at waxidermy -> http://www.waxidermy.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=6929

:(((((

― zappi (joni), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

It's true. And, no, my source isn't the page but I trust it.

Oh, man. This is so sad.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

yes, it's true, Lois Gilbert from Jazz Corner and Chris Albertson (jazz historian) are confirming it. no public confirmation yet, but it does sadly seem to be true.

http://speakeasy.jazzcorner.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?p=579829

― Jonathan Abbey (erstwhile), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck. I knew I should have gone to see her play last year.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh God, no.

― Sundar (sundar), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

RIP

― 808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

SUCK

my first thought is just like with Octavia Butler - at least we have one last work to explore that she left with us before she died.

I am going to put on "Journey In Satchidananda" now and maybe even cry a bit.

― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

what a fucking shame

― max (maxreax), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

RIP

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:04 (nineteen years ago)

she played two months ago in san francisco... and I missed it. by all reports, it was good with a few completely transcendent peaks.

this one really comes as a surprise.

― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

She was about 70, wasn't she? Pretty young, anyway. Listening to "Eternity" now. Love this rec.

― 808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

:-(

― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 14 January 2007 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=1288

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 14 January 2007 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I heard this yesterday, but didin't want to post before there was official confirmation. Very sad. RIP.

― toby (tsg20), Sunday, 14 January 2007 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

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A biog will be out soon

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2026/mar/20/alice-coltrane-jazz-harpist-pianist-music-flying-lotus-cosmic-music

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 March 2026 20:41 (two months ago)

It is out

― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 30 March 2026 14:26 (two months ago)

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