That's one of the many things I love about that album. Listen to "Field Day for the Sundays." It's 28 seconds long, but has a bridge, hook, and chorus, and sticks in your head like peanut butter sticks to your teeth. It is precisely as long as it needs to be. It takes something special, I think, some deep insight, to be able to understand that a song only needs to be 28 seconds long.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
As for you, Joel, I know you're in NYC. But I don't want to give you home-field advantage. Meet in Cleveland?
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
Also, I won't use your real name if you won't use mine. Thanks.
P.S. kinda surprised you don't like Wire.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
Oh, and I don't think you'd be so surprised if you knew me a little better. Punk in general ain't my thang and never was.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
Because hstencil doesn't like punk, but he likes Wire.
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
Past Pink Flag there's some stuff that isn't doctrinaire-by-the-books-musical-punk (i.e. three chords and shouting). This is a good thing! And I love Pink Flag too.
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
not this again.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
that's punk? a subset maybe . . .
also, julio, yes THAT again.
― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
ps: jack cole, please sign in to the new league, pretty pretty please!
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
also, hstencil likes "punk" if you just dont tell him it's "punk" -- see Deerhoof. (wink and a tickle for h).
― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
I guess you don't want that Pagans boot after all, huh punk?
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Tuesday, 25 February 2003 18:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
this will be useful later, methinks
i've woken up to mass madness all over ilx...wire roxx u r all gay
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
I actually picked up Pink Flag by Wire a few weeks ago. I really like it.
― Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Tuesday, 25 February 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 02:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 02:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 26 February 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― russ.t, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 12:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
I really like the '87 - '90 period albums: the one track I've heard from Read & Burn I was very disappointed by.
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 18:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 18:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
Or am I taking things to seriously - or are you?
― chris sallis, Wednesday, 26 February 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
is this still in print?? amazon seems to think not. it sounds absolutely key, anyway.
i listened to the read & burn eps on the tube earlier and stand by my claim that they're essential too.
Albums? Surely Wire are best understood as a singles band? Mannequin / 12XU; I Am The Fly; Dot Dash; Outdoor Miner; A Question Of Degree; Map Ref 41N 93W: there aren't many acts to rival that run.
tim's v otm; this probably is the way to get into them.
― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― russ t, Thursday, 27 February 2003 10:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― rex jr., Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Thursday, 27 February 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 27 February 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
I love his compositions and was a big He Said fan, but man sometimes his voice on certain songs is just one big bad idea... i.e. "Ambitious"
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ferg (Ferg), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
I can't imagine Colin Newman singing "Ambitious."
― hstencil, Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
I think Lewis's vocals works better ovreall with 80s Wire.. like with "It's Beginning To And Back Again", and He Said, obviously. But I agree "Should Have Known Better" and "A Touching Display" are great.
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
*sniff* I wouldn't be happy!
I love "Should Have Known Better," his voice is great on that.
Hahaha, Pin Group! Love that Siltbreeze CD. Roy Montgomery sounds more like late M. Gira to me on it, but it's close enough to Graham too. Have you heard his Wire cover?
― hstencil, Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
Some of the lyrics on the first three recs are exceptional - 'Ex-Lion Tamer', 'Single K.o.' etc etc.
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 27 February 2003 19:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
Unfortunately, no. I listened to Roy Montgomery a lot when every underground rock band needed to do an "Outdoor Miner" cover, so maybe I did, and it got lost along all the other Wire covers lobbed at me at the time.. heh.
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 27 February 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 February 2003 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 February 2003 01:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
Why don't people talk about these other projects more? It strikes me as odd that Wire is so revered (rightly) and yet most people can't be arsed to even mention this stuff most of the time, especially since a lot of it is of a piece with the more experimental Wire material.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 3 March 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― schnell schnell, Monday, 3 March 2003 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
who are all these upthread losers
― akm, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link
... Belle & Sebastian fans - enough said?
people really need to be discouraged from making music documentaries.
OTM. I would hope Wire might do some different with this one though.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 06:50 (four years ago) link