let us now talk about psychedelia

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I've downloaded Rubbles #10 (Professor Jordan's Magic Sound Show) & #13 (Freak Beat Phantoms) from Soulseek. Both are from LPs, not CD. I've barely had a chance to dip into 10 to date. 13 is mostly good, although more hard freakbeat than psych. I've seen others on Soulseek, but the fuckers never stay online long enough for me to download.

Curt (cgould), Friday, 22 November 2002 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Dr. C, do you have that Mojo compilation, or are you familiar with its contents? Between too-familiar bands like Kinks, Who, Donovan, etc., and repeats of Nuggets 2 tracks, I've found it hard to play straight through, so I've never made the effort to discover gems buried within. What tracks do you rate?

Curt (cgould), Friday, 22 November 2002 21:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I love McGough & McGear's 'So Much in Love',Mike McCartney sounding way groovier than Paul.

Paul R (paul R), Friday, 22 November 2002 21:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Dr C is a man after my own heart... such fine taste... and putting Tintern Abbey first in his list. Oh for heavens sake, that Tintern Abbey single is one of the best singles of all time, both "Beeside" and "Vacuum cleaner" are superb examples of psych.

Has anyone mentioned Blossom Toes yet? Their first album (whose name escapes me now) is great pop-sike and should be reissued. All the early Rubbles LPs are fine too, that Mojo boxed set looks interesting, if I didn't have most of it already.

British psych is far better than US psych in my opinion - in the US it was too serious and part of a generational movement of protest against 'Nam and dropping out and a whole counter-culture of rebellion, whereas in the UK it was just mod bands dropping acid and making slightly stranger records than normal, utilising all the advances in recording technology as they went along. There's an inbuilt sense of whimsy, but also melancholy, in a lot of the best UK psych and that rarely gets a mention.

Rob M (Rob M), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Introspection" by The End is absolutely essential, and is just dripping in trippiness. It also has Charlie Watt on drums and Bill Wyman producing....

I also find myself really liking The Smoke - even though they can be a little less psychedelic at times, they nevertheless make up for this with brilliant Kinks/Who-esque English pop. Plus one of the people in the band looks so much like Beck it's scary....

Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 23 November 2002 19:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Blimey Rob - Ta! The Blossom Toes album is definitely available now - can't remember the label. I'll look for it.

Curt - I've got 90% of the stuff on the Mojo box on other albums, although I reckon it's a good selection. Best tracks ? Hell I don't know - The End's Shade's Of Orange is genius, also The Koobas, The Attack ..... I love this stuff.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Saturday, 23 November 2002 21:07 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been playing the Mojo box today, and it sounds a lot better than i remembered. I think it was overshadowed for me by Nuggets 2, which I got right before it. Really, only Disc 3 has too many familiar songs.

That album by The End sounds like one to look for. I'd like to check out more Tintern Abbey, Attack, Kaleidoscope (UK), etc., too. Sorry to ramble on, except I think this stuff would be right up Electric Sound of Jim's alley, too.

Curt (cgould), Saturday, 23 November 2002 21:51 (twenty-three years ago)

You are all ace. I finally heard Tintern Abbey the other day, and I think it's fantastic - so this should be a very fun learning experience!

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 24 November 2002 03:19 (twenty-three years ago)

aceholes!

man, Sunday, 24 November 2002 03:35 (twenty-three years ago)

six months pass...
so jim did you ever check out much of the stuff from the thread? How are you finding Mindrocker? For some idiotic reason Amazon US has Rubble but doesn't have Mindrocker :(

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 6 June 2003 04:39 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, i've been going as sick on this stuff as finances will allow. I got through three-quarters of Mindrocker last weekend and really got into it - great stuff. The Rubble Box is well amazing though - and the second volume (which I gather is *even better*) is out in 2-3 months' time..

I still haven't got Nuggets yet.. must get onto that ASAP.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 6 June 2003 04:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, I just finally picked up the Nuggets 2 box late last year, and I think it's better than the original, American one. Even though most of my top psych albums are American (jammy, lengthy guitar stuff), I think other scenes generally made much better singles. That Nuggets 2 really was a revelation to me, even as somewhat a collector of this kinda stuff. They did a great job.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 6 June 2003 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Coming back to this, one band no one has mentioned is SRC, a great band from Michigan. I think their "Black Sheep" is the best pychedelic rock single of the period. They do a nice job of balancing long rock jamsv with pretty good hooks.
I usually prefer American psychedelia but ISB's Hangman's Beautiful Daughter may be my favorite psych album.

Magic City (ano ano), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, SRC were tops. Gary Quackenbush is one of my favorite psychedelic era guitarists, right up there with John Cipollina. That searing sound he gets on the chorus to "Black Sheep" defines acid rock. It's like the transmutation into sound of the tense chemical throes of LSD comedown. I love the way the grain of it often bumps up against Scott Richardson's hushed vocals, himself resembling a less emotive Colin Blunstone; like on "Daystar" where that piercing sound is followed on by Richardson's "our constellations...". Come to think of it, they kind of were like a blend of the sonic majesty of Quicksilver with a very British pop sensibility, and they were stuck in the midwest playing gigs with the likes of the Stooges and the 5. A unique and relatively unheralded group.

First two records were outstanding, with "Up All Night" from Milestones probably my favorite cut of theirs. Traveller's Tale kind of sucked unfortunately as Quackenbush had left. There was some good stuff on that Lost Masters cd that One Way put out in the 90's. Not blasted like the 60's stuff at all, but pretty nice post-hippie rock moves, and Quackenbush back in the fold.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 12 June 2003 18:10 (twenty-three years ago)

UK: The Move
US: Nazz

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Pearls Before Swine, "Balaklava" (this has become my stock reply for all threads psych.)

Ian Johnson, Thursday, 12 June 2003 23:44 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...
I agree with you, Ian. PBS were mindbogglingly great..

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 16 May 2004 10:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Pearls Before Swine's One Nation Underground is even better. Utterly classic, with Tom Rapp's lisp and all.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Sunday, 16 May 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll second that I like the first album better as well.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 16 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, I know its two years old and all, but this thread is dissapointing. Scott Seward to thread! Looks like most of you giving poor Jim advice are a little 'green' about psych yourselves, no offense.

Who or what is "Graham" Parsons? Did someone actually recommed The Hollies? "'Destroy' the Love, Peace and Poetry comps?"

yall must be oucho friggin' minds.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah. I have three of the Love, Peace, and Poetry volumes and they're all great. I really like the U.S. volume, actually. Some people say that U.S. psych comps have been done to death, but that one focuses on album tracks rather than 45s. It's great. The British and Asian volumes that I have are also excellent.

My favorite psych comps are the U.S. Love, Peace, and Poetry volume, Pebbles Volume 3, Erik Lindgren's Beyond the Calico Wall comp, and Chocolate Soup for Diabetics Volume 2.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

As a rule I don't enjoy comps - they always leave me wanting to hear the whole albums by the good bands. I'm an 'album' kinda guy, especially when it comes to psych

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

There are some truly great comps. And, of course, the majority of them consist mostly of tracks that were only on 45s.

I also think that there's a tendency for people to overrate obscure psych albums that are not actually that great all the way through. So, in this sense, I really love the Love, Peace, and Poetry series anthologizing the really good cuts from a lot of obscure albums.

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 16 May 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger, you actually started a better psych thread for recommendations: favorite psych records


And me, well, I've got some unfinished business to attend to:

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 May 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger, you actually started a better psych thread for recommendations: favorite psych records


And me, well, I've got some unfinished business to attend to:

1001 Interstellar Psychedelic Recordings Of The 1960's

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 May 2004 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

oops, that came out twice. i must be triiiiiipppppping.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 May 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

And I don't get you about comps. I kiss my Rubble boxes every night before I go to sleep. Where would we be as a world without the prae-kraut pandaemonium series? There are so many great comps. And there were only about a zillion great bands who never made an album. Like Tim said.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 May 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

That's true - but 95% of them at least made singles. I can't tell you how many sleepless nights I spent wondering what the B-side to Kiss, Inc's "Hey Mr Holy Man" sounded like (turned out it wasn't as great as the A side, which is one of the greatest songs ever)

I like comps ok, but, Scott, think about your favorite psych records. Could you reduce Ill Wind, The Index, Aguaturbia, Emtidi or Lazy Smoke to one song to sum it all up? No way. Comps are cliff's notes. They allow people to namedrop bands they hardly know anything about.

Then again, maybe I'm just a big nerd.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 16 May 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

See, I think that Lazy Smoke album is OK, but maybe overrated. I'd heard "There Was a Time" on Love, Peace, and Poetry first. Then, I bought the Arf Arf reissue of Corridor of Faces and was underwhelmed. I also bought the Phantasia CD on World of Sound because I like that Trizo 50 track on LP&P so much (Trizo 50 was their later incarnation) and...well, if you've heard that maybe you'll understand how I felt (one of their biggest influences, I think, was Richard Harris). Oh, and I bought the Sundazed reissue of the Music Emporium album, too! It's...pretty good.

Thinking of that volume, will I ever buy the Darius album? The Hunger album? The Patron Saints album? Would I be disappointed if I did? (I WOULD, however, immediately buy a new reissue of the Michaelangelo album--the Void Michaelangelo album of tracks from the same period is EXCELLENT--probably the Zerfas album and quite possibly the Victoria album.)

Same thing with the British volume. How many of those albums are really excellent on the whole? (Actually, I do have the Bobak, Jons and Malone album and it is pretty good.)

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 16 May 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Comps are great. The Endless Journey / Reverberation series changed my life. Where the hell else would I get "Diamond Studded Cadillacs" by Unsettled Society??

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 16 May 2004 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think anybody's mentioned:

Kak
Moving Gelatine Plates
High Tide (Sea Shanties!!!!!!!!)
Cold Sun (just get Dark Shadows! wow!)
Plastic People of the Universe
Rain Parade ('80s sike gem)
Plan 9 (especially 'Dealing w/ the Dead')
Plasticland
Yatha Sidra
Dreamies
Alan Watts-This Is It!
Christine 23 Onna
Flower Travellin' Band
Euphoria
Freeborne
Intersystems (WAY out)
Kalacakra
Lula Cotres & ze Ramalho (Brazil)
Music Machine
The Speakers

Hell - there's tons!

Have fun digging!!!!!! :-)

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Monday, 17 May 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

that Ze Ramalho e Lula Cortes album is AMAZING. Seriously wigged-out stuff.

Broheems (diamond), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm scared of Rain Parade, and Plan 9, and Platicland. I don't think I want to listen to them.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

But dude, John Bullabaugh, put some of yer faves on this thread:

1001 Interstellar Psychedelic Recordings Of The 1960's

Cuz we are too stoned to finish it right now, so we need help.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The later Plan 9 records are incredibly weird. They're not "psych" albums per se. I honestly don't know how to describe them.

Inspirational verse ("Wishful Thinking" from Ham and Sam Jammin' LP, 1989):

I had this whole other life
I planned it out I pulled it off
Nothing every went wrong
No one I knew ever died
I used rolling wheat fields for money
All the state prisons were closed
People named Larry were not bad guys

Tim Ellison, Monday, 17 May 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

And I like the first Rain Parade album and the EP that came out after it.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 17 May 2004 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"i look around" from that rain parade album is one of the best tracks to come out of the paisley underground scene

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

If you start telling me I have to go buy some Three O'Clock albums I'm gonna scream!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Cuz then yer gonna tell me that I can't live without the first Bangles e.p. It's a slippery slope, i tellya.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I draw the line at the hoodoo friggin' gurus.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

don't mind me. I've had a lot of beer. I don't usually stay up this late. It's a novelty.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

what's wrong with hoodoo gurus? several of their early singles are stone cold classics (they're not even remotely psychedelic though)

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i certainly can't live without the first bangles LP

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

they had their psych moments. at times. no, i think they were great. they were a wonderful rock band. really.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, now we are going down that slope.

I'll have YOU know, that I can't live without my Starstruck soundtrack!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott, Scott, give in...you WANT the Rainy Day album...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott, scream away, but the Three O'Clock, at least when Louis Gutierrez was in the band, were pretty great. Yield to a dollar copy of Arrive without Travelling. The lyrics ans singing can be cloying, but that's some rocking psychedelic new wave with good guitar and a good drummer.

Tim Ellison, Monday, 17 May 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Please tell me about the Ze Ramalho album with Lula Cortes - I know she plays on his (first?) album, but I wasn't aware they had a proper duo LP? What's the title?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The only album I know is Paebiru (yo Rog, I'm sharing that too if you need it.) I dunno if it's supposed to be a proper duo album or not; the zip file of it I received had them both listed in the title.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
lets talk, once again, about psychedelia, about you and i, and how we listen to english psychedelia, and about tintern abbey, but, more to the point, about toby twirl/

scarper, its the rozzers! (gareth), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

some v cool stuff on there but i would have preferred they leave off the previously (and in some cases quite heavily) comped stuff and make it a disc shorter

has anyone into this stuff not heard magic potion by now?

nice to see complex on there, images blue in my top 10 tracks of the 70s

kel's vintage port (electricsound), Monday, 9 December 2013 20:48 (twelve years ago)

Aw Ned, I set that self-promotion up for you! Well done.

I'm on the fence about these sorts of things. I dig Nuggets II and Mojo's Acid Drops box sets but I'm not sure I need another. Having said that, any compiler smart enough to include Bill Nelson has my attention.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 9 December 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)


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