Rolling Metal Thread 2014

i thought they were like chock full of swedish metal et al

I find plenty of metal on spotify, certain labels/artists are just black holes

also some, like profound lore, sometimes wait quite a while after the release date to make an album available on spotify for streaming

Thou's Heathen isn't on there. At least when I posted my previous comment it wasn't.

But that may be just to it being too new?

Thinking about it, maybe I'm just looking for albums that are too new or not on a big enough label, so never mind.

i think its release date is a week and a half from now

yeah thought I saw that somewhere is hosting an advance album stream next week

release date is 3/25, NPR will stream it a week before

http://www.gileadmedia.net/releasedirectory/relic48-thou-heathen-gatefold-cd/

Just wondering, how many people does Slayer normally pull? I just saw them booked in a 750 ppl sized venue here in June. Surely Slayer could easily sell out much bigger places?

I would have thought so

they play for a few thousand in Dallas.

they fluctuated here over the years between the barrowlands (1900 capacity) and the SECC (probably not the big hall but youre still talking 4 or 5 thousand in the smallest one I think) though they usually had biggish name supporting them that helped sell tix.

maybe theyre doing a smaller warm up show before festivals?

Yeah, Slayer is drawing a lot less these days. Got about a couple thousand here in November (Lamb of God drew nearly three times that a couple weeks later), and their Toronto show was moved from a hockey rink to a much cozier venue.

No wait, Slayer here was more like 1000. Shockingly small.

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I love the new Nadja. First one I've heard by them in ages that holds up to their early stuff. Quite lovely.

If they're not able to make as much money as before then maybe Kerry and Tom will pull the plug on Slayer?

Or will touring in support of a new album help ticket sales?

saw them doing Reign in Blood a couple of years ago here in London, there must have been 5k people, but the bill did also have Sleep, Melvins, Wolves in the Throne Room, YOB etc. on it. That was a good gig!

hey they beat the pfork 8.2 ceiling on metal, well done

Still no 'Best New Music' tag, even thought plenty of 8.2 and 8.3 rated albums have been given that tag.

The rating for the Thou record is a bit high. It's an admirable album, especially the latter half, which is impressive, but the first half hour isn't anywhere near as extraordinary.

Deafheaven got BNM right? Look at the difference it made. It popped up on most "indie" kids year end lists last year nevermind magazine lists.

there's no rating cut off for BNM, it seems more they reserve it for albums they think have some extra crossover appeal for their non-metal audience: Deafheaven, Pallbearer, Isis, Sunn O))) all got it but a bunch of high rated metal doesn't: Converge, Agalloch, The Body

Actually Baroness is a good example, 8.4 and 8.5 for their first two albums, then Yellow and Green also gets an 8.5 and also BNM

dont see why converge or agalloch wouldnt crossover tbh

Yeah, I feel weird spending any time at all thinking about Pitchfork ratings. But otoh, I also like thinking about how metal gets attention from certain corners of the crit-sphere and the Pitchfork scores and BNM tags give you kind of a metric for comparison, as wrong-headed as it may be.

The BNM brand is significant. When Pallbearer got it two years ago the effect was immediate, it instantly became Profound Lore's biggest seller. Plus of course it puts the band on the radar of non-metal music critics looking for something "extreme", and you get folks like Greg Kot making foolish declarations like Deafheaven "is drawing a new map for heavy music."

so is Deafheaven becoming metal's version of Drake now? granted I get that they're not really 'metal' I s'pose but....

Don't know but can't wait until they host SNL.

^Only if the entire cast wears corpse paint for that episode.

Do Deafheaven actually wear corpse paint at any point? It seems like it'd be out of character with their whole presentation.

um...humour?

Sorry, man! Read the article about the guy from Indian slagging them off and he said:

"I don’t find singing about Satan, wearing makeup and spending an hour dressing up to play shows—like you’re some fucking trust-fund kid from Scandanavia, richest part of the world—interesting. You know what? Fuck you. Your idea of extreme means nothing to me."

So I was unclear as to whether that was a thing they did.

just followed that quote back to the original place it appeared and given that it makes almost zero sense in the context of Deafheaven, I'm guessing that he sort of jumped from one thought to another without the interviewer picking up on him having done so

singing about satan is pretty awesome though

Satan's the best! Metal that doesn't talk about Satan is lame. Like, I assume, this Indian band is.

guy from Indian does not know what a trust fund is

however fuckin' A, this piece got me listening to their new one and this band has really grown a lot since The Unquiet Sky, holy fuck

A dude from Coffinworm reviews the new Twilight on BurningAmbulance.com today. (I can't believe I was the first person to come up with that headline, btw.)

guy from Indian does not know what a trust fund is

Deafheaven are metal. You may not like them, but there's way too much metal in them for them to not be.

if we who find them tedious concede, as most of us have, that they're metal, can we not talk about them until they put out another record

sure

tbh i haven't heard them, I just said that to ward off folk with diamond-studded codpieces from leaping out at me and bellowing "NOTTTTTTTT METAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!"

I'm just confused by it – I finally heard the album last week, and my reaction was like "how is this not metal?" (Sorry Smithy)

celtic frost
bathory
mercyful fate
judas priest
iron maiden
nocturnus

ok he's fine now

guy from Indian does not know what a trust fund is

When he's not busy being a Scandanavian trust-fund extreme metaler, Fenriz is a high school drop out who sorts mail

I'm not saying Norway's economy is bad, or that music and art isn't subsidized in a way there that it could never could be in the US...but using that particular qualifier seems like cutting off one's nose to spite one's metal cred

honestly I think a lot of ppl use 'trust fund' like it's a synonym for comfortable living or coming from a comfortable background or w/e, rather than this actual very specific thing. the thought processes behind doing this absolutely baffle me but you see it everyfuckingwhere

I know there's great new stuff to enjoy, but I'm stuck in Dortmund Germany in 1983 watching Iron Maiden, Scorpions, Judas Priest, Def Leppard, Ozzy Osbourne, Quiet Riot, Krokus and Michael Schenker Group change the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT61oVBpNyA

Jesus, four hours...

New Triptykon Track

I'm just gonna say right now (since I've heard it) that there really is no room in this thread for discussion of the new Opeth album, because it is not a metal record at all. People who didn't like Heritage are gonna have their worst suspicions confirmed with this next one (which is as yet untitled, I think - I don't even know track names). There are no growls. There are no blast beats. Hell, there are no downtuned riffs. At its heaviest, it sounds like Yes circa Relayer; at its softest, it sounds like the Moody Blues. There's piano; there's flute; there are female backing vocals; there are strings. There is an instrumental. There are no vocals until three minutes into the first track, and it's only about six minutes long. When there are vocals, they're way higher in the mix than they've ever been, and btw Mikael sounds amazing. There is an 11-minute song, but most are between five and eight—the whole thing is eight tracks in slightly under an hour. It is a straight-up '70s prog rock album. I fucking love it.

That sounds awesome. Can't wait to hear it.

I have a few of the albums from Still Life and Blackwater Park but eventually fatigued of them: I wanted them to either be heavier (more metal) or more intricate and compositionally ambitious/sophisticated (more prog?). I take it that they went in the latter direction since then? I might be interested.