Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

I'm confused abt why we are talking about Tazartes but I must have missed something above the fold (Youtube link?), he is amazing and unique. Diasporas and Transports are both just unbelievably good.

Sleeve, check Ogmor's spotify playlist posted above, lots of good stuff, Tazartèz being one of the things included. Need to hear more to be frank.

i think the bass ties into fahey's idea of the guitar as an orchestra, the way he played w/ v distinct parts, he made much more of a feature of the alt bass than someone like, say, chet atkins. it has a dramatic role, which is what i would guess jack rose was saying was macho & exaggerated. he used it to add mass - where it could get to sort of overwhelming, ridiculous levels like on the fahey/kottke/lang version of sunflower river blues which sounds enormous, almost terrifying - as well as momentum. the way he deployed it later during his ridiculous intros phase, he ratchets-up tension, prepares the ground w/ bare, often minor key melodic stop-start stuff, & then when the bass arrives it's pure release, like adding drums or a big distorted chorus, an instant hit propulsion & volume, making everything swing. on some of the longer tracks like dalhart texas, mark 1:15, ffv, it's definitely a huge build-up to the bass. but he never relied on it & he varied things enough that he was never predictable, which is not true of a lot of his disciples, imo

i have lately been finding palm muted stuff really refreshing, but i think a variety is best re: dynamics

if you watch a lot of Grossman videos or other country blues instructionals, you will see how most everyone suggests you dampen the bass notes so it doesn't over power your technique. I say to hell with that and let it over power everything.
― Neal Cassady, Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:18 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

When I took lessons with Peter Lang he encouraged me to palm mute the bass notes, said it sounds less muddled

^^peter lang? that's great dude - what year was this?

Last year. He's an amazing guy. Gives lessons through a music school here. I think global tetrahedron took lessons from him too.

I had to quit cuz my wife was out of work. How to start again.

He's a great, patient teacher but honestly is expect I would have paid just for the stories alone

I bought glenn jones' the wanting and chris forsyth's paranoid cat yesterday. both incredible LPs and my 2 1/2 yr old is a huge paranoid cat fan already, he told me "make it louder".

Sounds like your son knows what's up... I'm taking lessons with Forsyth! Start tomorrow via Skype. Hope my wretched Comcast connection holds up.

oh shit yeah i saw that on facebook...how much?

ooh that's awesome! skype lessons seem like they work for everyone, technology permitting.

yeahhh, i have considered taking forsyth skype lessons. i've never taken any guitar lessons though, i don't want to ruin my self-taught "charm".
speaking of that dude: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2014/03/10/chris-forsyth-the-solar-motel-band-little-johnny-jewel-cortez-the-killer

Think Daniel Bachman has started giving online lessons as well. Bet the Forsyth lessons are cool, would probably just end up asking him about the Richard Lloyd lessons.

I wish this thread had its own radio station...

it kinda does? Spotify playlist just keeps on giving...

Oh, yeah that's my problem then. I never played with Spotify.

btw guys hidden in the massive shitshow that is Record Store Day 2014, there is this little gem which I'm sure will be easy to get late in the day:

● Glenn Jones - Welcomed Wherever I Go (LP)

http://exclaim.ca/News/record_store_day_2014_massive_list_of_exclusives_announced_so_far

on that same note, there is an Alvarius B/Sir Richard Bishop split LP

Ah cool that escaped my attention
Either one will be easy to roll in after the eBay scum are gone & pick up

Yeah I've already got my sights on that Glenn Jones. By far the number one record I'll be looking forward to picking up somewhere in the next couple of months.

eBay scum will be busy buying all the Cake and LCD Soundsystem boxsets instead.

Jones thing is a live record, I take it?

yep! sounds cool

Welcomed Wherever I Go

by Glenn Jones
Thrill Jockey
Thrill 367 - 2014
Glenn Jones has emerged as a clear leader in the new wave of American Primitive music for solo acoustic guitar. Many have mentioned his friendship with the late John Fahey, the genre’s progenitor and demigod, but Glenn’s music is truly all his own. His pensive sentimentality and playful spirit, not to mention his innovative technique, have become just as ingrained into the style’s DNA as any hallmarks of the original Takoma school. Welcomed Wherever I Go is a collection of live numbers, one featuring fellow guitarist Cian Nugent, and one forgotten tune recorded, speculatively, during the 2007 sessions for Jack Rose’s Dr. Ragtime and His Pals.

“Island III” and “Against My Ruin” were both originally recorded for Glenn’s 2007 album Against Which the Sea Continually Beats, and were subsequently played live as a medley. The recording that appears on Welcomed Wherever I Go was recorded in December of 2011 at the well-loved and now shuttered Brooklyn club Zebulon. “From A Lost Session” was a recording lost to time until Glenn discovered an unmarked CD-R in his archives, presumably during that classic session with Jack Rose. It is a particularly meditative track for Glenn, in a minor key with an incessant pedal tone not unlike Rose’s pieces of the same era. The entire b-side of the release is occupied by a live take of “The Orca Grande Cement Factory at Victorville,” a duet with similarly innovative guitarist Cian Nugent. Glenn will only play the song live in duet settings where the second musician has little to no preparation or coaching, letting them add to his instrumental musings, ignore them, or destroy them completely. Nugent’s interpretation leans more toward the former.

Welcomed Wherever I Go is being released in a limited edition, vinyl-only format for Record Store Day 2014. Glenn will be doing limited touring in 2014, mostly in support of a new biography on John Fahey by Steve Lowenthal.

yarr, that does sound good.

glenn touring for lowenthal's fahey biography is typically heroic, he's done more than anyone to carry the flame, nothing but <3

wait there's a spotify for this thread??

People on this thread should take note of the new Stein Urheim album, it is mindblowing. Could also be relevant on the psyche/drone thread but I noticed this one first.

I've just had a listen to that, xelab - really good. Reminded me of Big Jim and Terje Rypdal, but really striking and bold. Nice. Hubro is generally a really high quality label.

saw cian nugent open for angel olsen earlier this week -- totally great! would've loved to see the full band thing, but the songs from born with the caul actually translate very nicely in the solo setting. also did michael hurley's "eyes eyes" which was awesome.

Still sorry I missed Cian in my town, but apparently his set got really shortened due to the other acts on the bill (he was added last minute so I don't blame the other acts, but still). Very cool he did a Hurley cover, sounds like a good time.

angel is coming to mpls but cian is not on this leg :(

would have gone but i think i'm gonna opt for tinariwen who is coming to the same venue a few weeks later

angel was killer too. cian said he was hooking up for some dates w/ ryley walker on his way back to Chicago, so he may be popping up in some more places...

yeah i just only have so much money and i've missed Tinariwen a bunch of times, feel like a group i should see once in my life

wait there's a spotify for this thread??

― gbx, Monday, March 10, 2014 4:28 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, been a little behind but it's now updated:
http://open.spotify.com/user/theshipment/playlist/2WNjL5jGiUHaSu5CFkN9Xg

I recently finished editing and mixing the next album for my Rag Lore project.
It'll be available as a limited tape pressed by Cabin Floor Esoterica.
Those that follow tape labels may know of Cabin Floor; really really great stuff there.

It isn't out yet and probably won't be for another 3-4 weeks.
But I wanted to share it here to get a bit of feedback from you guys.
You can stream the A side of the 40min cassette over at my bandcamp:
Rag Lore - Misr Environs: Cairo Road Recordings and Other Half Truths

that long post has left me very curious about this, field recordings of the call to prayer & basically ambient guitar couldn't really be any more my thing, will send you an email

Nice write-up Neal, sounds like a great idea for a recording, look forward to hearing it.

Digging "Since the Devil Is Gone" this am:

http://delta-slider.blogspot.com/2014/03/luke-hirst-breaking-hex.html?spref=tw

Nice little piece by our man Tyler here running down some upcoming releases from some old-school heavies, Bikoff, Tausig, and Suni McGrath, with songs from each of 'em.

http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2014/03/18/return-of-the-repressed-new-work-from-don-bikoff-harry-taussig-and-suni-mcgrath/

Happy to see folks like this get back on the wagon, as I am turning into an old man on whatever scene I am on myself, so I find it immensely inspiring seeing musicians older than myself putting out good records and playing shows.

heyyy, yeah, these are all quite good! The McGrath one is maybe a bit dodgy at points, but has its moments. The Taussig one gets pretty raw at times, almost Orcutt-ian!

this is cool - Dakota Dave is a Mpls folk scene stalwart!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/608952014/classic-american-ragtime-guitar

fun fact: peter lang was telling me if i ever wanted to get acrylic nails for performing, he has a vietnamese woman that dakota dave hull taught how to do fingerpicking nails "the right way" and she's the fake nail jump-off for all the twin cities old timey music O.Gz

haha, sounds like a slippery slope, dude, be careful! "I started out just listening to Fahey records every now and again and before I knew it this Vietnamese woman was making me acrylic nails."

lol tyler.

i keep thinking about going to that lady. but i don't wanna have to like, shake someone's hand for work and have to explain american primitivism to someone asking about why i'm wearing fake nails

you guys need ilx's in orbit to make you some cool fake nails!

I'm just gonna dissolve my fingertips off and play with my fingerbones

no, don't do that! ~check it out~
http://www.etsy.com/shop/LiabilityNails

in other news, i have managed to play along somewhat passably with a roy montgomery song :D

too late. That wasn't pleasant!

i guess you can't use your finger bone nubs to press rewind on your life and not do that
might as well invest in some falsies!

here here for the long nailed freaks. i recently grew out mine and it sure gets a laugh between my wife and housemates when i break out the filer. i think it does help if you only have the thumb, index, and middle finger long. it helps explain it a little better than your entire hand looking weird.

my old roommate majored in jazz guitar at our university and throughout the classical guitar class, growing out your nails was a requirement. the professor passed on info about trying to avoid water when you can, haha. on the mornings that he had a recital, he would have to shower with his right hand hanging out of the curtain to avoid getting it wet. it is really helpful tip though, but those classical guys take it to extremes. i guess it is nice for certain people out in public to look at us and assume we are proficient classical guitar players! rather than just a fumbling mess around-er who is scared of standard tuning :)