big up nobby's nuts
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 13:41 (ten years ago) link
In the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/mar/06/eagulls-girl-band-evil-blizzard-sleaford-mods-bring-the-noise
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
Evil Blizzard are great too.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
haha was just reading that article....Girl Band are quite good actually. their new single is terrific. and theyre from Dublin!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqxe3NZKYL0
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
before I read the actual article can I just say that I hate shit like
For years, British guitar bands have been styling themselves to be as smooth, bland and likable as possible. But finally a new wave of new rage is starting to shake things up
so fucking much. you could have written the exact same thing at any given time in the last ~15 years and it would be equally valid
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link
"A lot of people thought I was on drugs," Mitchell sniffles.
lol it's funny because someone who takes drugs might sniffle as a result of their habit. the seed has been planted in my mind!
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link
p impressive to name three S Mods titles one after the other and get them ALL wrong
― imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:52 (ten years ago) link
calling yourself Girl Band is possibly the single fastest way to earn my hatred. nonetheless I'm gonna give this 1x listen
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link
got a new dn from the comments so it's not all bad
― trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
oh for fucking out loud this is just fucking absolute trash, hateful. michael b what the hell
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sure this is a quote from the Johnny Kidd & the Pirates press release.
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
it's almost like Mclusky didn't do this 100x better ten years ago
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
anyway. sleaford mods are a bit different, thankfully
how is sleaford mods a "guitar band"?
― gimme the lute (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link
I mean it's all just window dressing really but idk would it be that bad or click-evaporating to say something to the effect of, 'here are some fairly new noisy non-mnstrm UK bands who have records out about now who we thought we'd share with you'? what is the actual purpose of this historically false oppositional thing
― trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:12 (ten years ago) link
good question! xp
― eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
Tied Up In Nottz is great, in fact :)
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:14 (ten years ago) link
Homesick.
― emil.y, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
ftr I think articles like this in papers like this are basically good, lame conceits notwithstanding, and accepts why these bands have to be Trojan horse'd in while the bulk of space is given over to music people actually want to read about
― trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
what am I missing with Girl Band that is not completely loathsome btw
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
Is 'guitar band' just in the standfirst? It looks like a lazy sub's work.
Anyway, thank you this thread, Sleaford Mods are my favourite new band, last two albums over and over, &
yes they push my E Mids buttons.
otoh I was being enthusiastic about them the other night but my fiancee on hearing them said 'They sound exactly like every other band you like. Are they the Fall?' maybe this marriage is a mistake.
― woof, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link
if you're just listening to the records bass guitar is a fairly prominent ingredient of like every SM song. granted it sort of makes a mockery of the idea of 'guitar band' but I can live with that tbh
― trying to emulate Kirk Cobain with a shrill, shouting voice (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:40 (ten years ago) link
Punk fucking rock from a pair of farmers who've gotta be in their 40s
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:08 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...
Nah it's about living in England - you probably wouldn't understand if you don'tA more clued up, yank friend of mine loved it , saying he hadn't heard something 'so UK' for a long while
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:21 (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this seems exactly to appeal to foreigners who buy into the aggresively parochial / prole art threat wing of uk eighties nineties indie
would usually expect to hate anything described as 'punk fucking rock' but even so, this isn't good
there is an aesthetics of resistance here though exemplified by the person in the trackies with the can of spesh or supermarket vodka lingering in the background, the sort of performative grottiness and debased nihilism that limns its way through most of the other culture heroes namechecked itt, though not as tryhard-commonplace as this lot
shouty bloke reminds me a bit of mid 00s fall copyists prinzhorn dance school who i will sort of rep for
this seems to be getting warm notices due to the bleeding out of the whitebread male provincial fucked off sensibility in current uk pop
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
surprised at the hate, imago. there's something fall-esque about them that i thought you would approve of.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Nah, it's all far, far, far too tightly-controlled and formulaic - it's yer typical disco-indie with a slightly noisier hook. A sheep in wolf's clothing. Fall comparison faintly ridiculous (to these ears at any rate)
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
Girl Band is possibly the single fastest way to earn my hatred
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh for fucking out loud this is just fucking absolute trash, hateful.
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, March 6, 2014 9:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:39 (ten years ago) link
the problem with 'fall-esque' is that if it isn't a shorthand for the early dragnet-hex clackety fall sound it's usually referring to the least interesting aspects of the fall, none of the copyists get or reinvisage the unhomely or obssesive qualities*, they merely facsimilie the threat but more in the to-women-and-children sense than the vindictive intelligence
thinking of uhm... k-punk's writing on MES here
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah The Fall is all about shambling, liminal reception of horror - sheer horror, the horror of experience - MES in perpetual fear, yet somehow able to cackle about it, sublimate his fear into our fear through demonic, unsteady incantation - through a sort of displacement process that can only be obtained through fractures in art
there are no fractures in this music I hear
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link
Sleaford Mods are not even remotely in the same ballpark as The Fall, as I say - they're like, if anything, a stripped-down, roided-up My Computer :D
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
xpost to nakh - yeah, that's part of it, but put in a way i'm gnawing slightly awkwardly at. (tho 'least interesting aspects of The Fall' is a curiously interesting set).
really like sleaford mods - p much since i heard them cos of the EOY list have just have ''old on 'old on' in my head since christmas. nv otm right down the righteous gonzo line between prophets and nobheads imo but until we fall out i am loving this
― Fizzles, Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:53 (ten years ago) link
thank you thread people.
i have kept forgetting.
but cos of this thread reminder, i have now dug out my earl brutus singles and albums collection.
happy daze.
― mark e, Friday, 7 March 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link
tried a few more sleaford tracks in downgraded 240p youtube trebly laptop speaker glory and i would probably have rated some of this when i was younger
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Friday, 7 March 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Earl Brutus the pomo deconstructed Europeanised somewhat perversely grandiose counterpart to this sort of social comms rock yeah mebbe
― You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Friday, 7 March 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link
I think "vindictive intelligence" is a very astute description of the The Fall. For as much as some people "tell it like it is" they are still no better than Terry & The Idiots.
― xelab, Friday, 7 March 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link
I like these guys. I don't think they sound much like anyone and the lyrics are cracking.
"I hate northern soul/it's just like motown but on the dole"
― inside out trousers (dog latin), Friday, 7 March 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link
see i would have liked that more before something like a....suspension of disbelief broke, same as i don't quite love afrikan boy's exquisite 'when i went to lidl' as much i used to, not claiming that i am any wiser a decade later or that it is any worse but politically the identification seems more fictive and untenable, my idiot bourgie teenage friends aren't going to shoplift in lidl any more, i'm not really any closer in spirit to norths lincs than sevastopol and the militantly reductive inverse-twee arte povera production and appellation sleaford protégée namechecks sort of surrender claims to sublimity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kBcm-ls8Y
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:05 (ten years ago) link
south lincs...
― Thanks in anticipation of your opinions (nakhchivan), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:07 (ten years ago) link
clean bandit for ponces
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:02 (ten years ago) link
isurrender claims to sublimity
the surrender of the claims to sublimity is part of the point/appeal tho, no? it's the 'prophetic' part of NV's earlier formula - the surly peasant, automatically suspicious of money, authority and those who like to be sold things, unseduceable must exclude art and the sublime as part of that suspicion, they do not view the pastoral, they are *in* it. that is also the problem, as you say: as a vision it becomes tiring long-term, reductive and exclusive of change - the no nonsense insolence becomes authoritarian conservatism as it gets old.
MES as a person can exemplify this, and i find the latter-day cultism surrounding him a bit nauseating. he's saved personally by his absolute devotion to art, and in The Fall the essential counterbalance to the surly indifference to pleasure ('to please is the curse, and worse') is Art, Mysticism and the sublime, to which they are open. In this respect they represent a form of satire - gnostically excoriating and revelling in the material world to reveal the spiritual sublime. (The spiritual counterweight to the surly peasant's suspicion is a credulity towards heretical gnosticism and non-conformism). Half Man Half Biscuit manage it with genuine pastoral longing and a genius for the cultural impedimenta beyond and below outside irritation at the supermarket.
But basically I'm a sucker for English nobheadism and enjoy it more or less automatically (crap dance is a golden place for this) - the addition of dirty bass and drums, and mocking guitar, just helps.
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:23 (ten years ago) link
^^ there's a point, at the height/depth of the Anabaptist's delirious approach to the deity, that the thought kicks in that the whole religious edifice is just an excuse to escape work and drink for oblivion and rut like a beast
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 07:28 (ten years ago) link
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n601/gamalielratsey/2014-03-07074141_zpsf8942e08.jpg
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 07:44 (ten years ago) link
and of courfe the reverfe holdf true
― landschlubber (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 07:47 (ten years ago) link
yep, the oppofite applief - the morning light.
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 08:04 (ten years ago) link
more Sleaford Modland
http://www.ranterulze.net/images/drunkards.png
SM do feel a bit antiquated tho - not that I mind particularly. the JCCisms, the grubby post punk musical lumbering belie the 'mod'. after reading that excellent Ian Penman LRB article on mod, was wondering what foreign elements wd constitute contemporary mod - what would be the foreign element, fashion lodestones, the cultural frontiers. ended making up something out of a ragbag of african dance like the Lapaz Toyota video, soviet satellite states (your sevastopol comment, nakh), the angular faces and baroque lines of a wyndham lewis portrait. it wouldn't look much like Sleaford Mods other than its oppositional razor to the throat of hipster fogeyism and the frigid abnegation of scandi-porn.
― Fizzles, Friday, 7 March 2014 08:24 (ten years ago) link
nakh's point about suspension of disbelief is v. on point tho - to contemplate the authenticity of the presentation is to pop the bubble immediately - hence my original caveat about "until we fall out" - but charlatanism is an acceptable angle of the English scene too as long as you keep your art project roots hid - incidentally, Earl Brutus seem to never manage this to me, they are a much archer proposition than Sleaford
― Nooye's Vagge (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 08:57 (ten years ago) link
even Chris Donald nods
― Nooye's Vagge (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 March 2014 08:59 (ten years ago) link
yeah i think if you showed me the entire musical history – all failed bands etc – of these 2, or re-presented it as a spoken word project of sorts then I would be way more iffy, but for now i'm pretty infatuated.
would like to read a long history of the English 'No. Fuck off' tradition.
― woof, Friday, 7 March 2014 10:37 (ten years ago) link
Andrew Fearn (the button-pusher/head-nodder/beer-chugger/e-cig-vaper) also puts out solo stuff as extnddntwrk - this is his most recent release - http://extnddntwrk.bandcamp.com/album/hybrids
― mike t-diva, Friday, 7 March 2014 11:43 (ten years ago) link
Fearny is a good bloke, was (is?) a friend of my brother. I'm not sure what sort of 'pretence' you guys think he's up to, but... I guess you want to see them as archetypes not humans? But then surely the project is to force their humanity into yr face? We are all humans, fucked up and crawling and puking, and implicated in the shit to a vast extent.
I think it's one of the things I like about them - they are my people, but they're not. This is my town, but it's not. The people they point the finger at, often, are people like me, but it's a mutual implication, simultaneously drawn and repelled by to for the whole thing, the fucking Goose on the Square, Yates' Wine Lodge, Old Meadows, New Meadows, The Lamp, Peggers is closing down, it's always been closing down, Selectadisc is long gone (what the fuck is Selectadisc?), Sneinton, Lenton, Spice Spice Arena, the fucking repulsive 'Arts Quarter' concept, St. Ann's, the xylophone man (it was a metallophone actually), the spot by my friends' house where that boy was shot...
Sorry, where was I?
― emil.y, Friday, 7 March 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
these guys are pretty fun!i like english ppl shouting at me, always have
― gimme the lute (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 March 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link