it was shit. i hate myself for watching all nine hours but i was sick in bed and its awfulness was distracting
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 2 March 2014 00:39 (ten years ago) link
I like the guy's tea shop, though.
― That's So (Eazy), Sunday, 2 March 2014 00:56 (ten years ago) link
he sucked as soon as he cut his hair
― bodacious ignoramus, Sunday, 2 March 2014 06:55 (ten years ago) link
DrZoidberg1 38 points 9 hours ago Billy, what's your go to acoustic? Still Taylors? Martin?permalinkiamBillyCorgan 66 points 8 hours ago I'm currently working with Yamaha. And I hope that we might be able to build kind of a signature BC acoustic.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2os94f/i_am_billy_corgan_of_the_smashing_pumpkins_and/
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:26 (nine years ago) link
"you remind me of my signature BC Yamaha. my BC Yamaha. my BC Yahama."
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:27 (nine years ago) link
MegaShit 531 points 9 hours ago Why is the world a vampire?permalinkiamBillyCorgan 1294 points 9 hours ago Just look in the mirror.permalinkparent
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link
love this guy
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:31 (nine years ago) link
Gohagan 110 points 9 hours ago How excited are you for the new Star Wars movie?permalinkiamBillyCorgan 228 points 9 hours ago I'm very excited.I have a feeling that these new series of movies (particularly because of the technology that is available now) will finally realize the vision that George Lucas must've had when he began.permalinkparent
trolling or playing to the fedoras?
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link
he didnt seem eager to play along elsewhere in the ama so i think he really likes star wars
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 11:11 (nine years ago) link
That's such a great answer. I'm going to spend all morning trying to imagine a collaboration with Rob Crow.
― how's life, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 11:42 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/dec/18/billy-corgan-smashing-pumpkins-interview
can't bring myself to extract just one quote
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 30 January 2015 12:05 (nine years ago) link
Couldn't you just make a poll?
― Number Nine Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 January 2015 12:07 (nine years ago) link
he is truly a pisces
― nauru, Friday, 30 January 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
There was a whole bunch of discussion about this on the Smashing Pumpkins thread, iirc.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 30 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Oh billypaws
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
I wish the subheader of this interview was “he’s a nutter and he’s obsessed with his reviews!”
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
i do feel for the guy. i can't help but think that if he was more attractive, had better teeth, and wasn't so cranky, people would view him more like they view Johnny Greenwood.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
The Guardian should reissue this interview with a second disc of bonus quotes.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
Wow man this is a new level of idiocy. What a giant baby.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
he's venting about a long-simmering frustration that he's being treated differently-- and worse-- than a lot of rock royalty for reasons that aren't related to talent. while I can't say I'm a huge SP/BC fan, i sense that this is actually true.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
annotating an interview with anything other than background facts seems like such a dick move
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
^
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link
long-simmering frustration that he's being treated differently-- and worse-- than a lot of rock royalty for reasons that aren't related to talent
who is rock royalty from his generation - Cobain, Slash/Axl...? One's dead and didn't have a chance to age poorly, Axl is p much a joke, I guess Slash does p well but who cares about what new music he makes these days
― Οὖτις, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
I think that Malkmus is (or was considering the poll) a better example
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
Maybe it's not even rock royalty; it's the people who have been innovative and pushing the envelope in art and music. People talk about BC like he's a laughable, abysmal failure as an artist. While I'm not his biggest fan, you cannot say he is lazy about his art, nor that he isn't ambitious and has vision. You could argue that these qualities aren't sufficient for producing great art, but my impression is other people's pretentious horseshit (e.g. Radiohead) is lauded as visionary genius while BC's pretentious horseshit is written off as simple wankery.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
maybe but Malkmus never sold as many records/never had as much mass appeal - I doubt Bilbo considers him "rock royalty"
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
Radiohead is another good example
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
I guess the simplest way to put it actually comes through loud and clear in the interview: he's far more talented and important than many of the people in the 'cool club.' So why hasn't be been invited in?
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
I doubt Bilbo considers him "rock royalty"
Bilbo Corgans, the tallest hobbit motherfucker of them all.
"You have no hair on your feet!"
"Fucking DUH."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
he's far more talented and important than many of the people in the 'cool club.' So why hasn't be been invited in?
because he isn't cool!
― Οὖτις, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
i think the burning question to him is "WHY???"
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
lol "i don't really like his music but i hate radiohead and people talk about how radiohead is so great so why don't they talk about Melon Collie & The Infinite Sadness the way they do OK Computer?"
― da croupier, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
to which i respond IF YOU HAVE TO ASK
we need a fincher biopic to really understand billy
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
honestly I think Mellon Collie IS better than OK Computer, and oddly, less pretentious.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
He's a dick, he craps out too many records, he keeps firing or losing band members/momentum, he has no apparent sense of humor or humility ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
that is odd.
― da croupier, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
honestly, i think this has a lot more to do with image than what people are willing to cop to.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
fuck are you talking about people happily admit they hate corgan's image
so otm
― example (crüt), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
well tell billy because he's the last person on earth who gives a shit
― da croupier, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
i mean, come on, "Fitter Happier"? that is some pretentious shit right there.
right, people admit to hating BC's image, but let's ask people if they choose musical favorites based on image. I bet few people will come out and admit that.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
JiC otm in general
― Οὖτις, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
i just can't take this "billy corgan isn't getting a fair shake because people are obsessed with superficial beauty and cool points" plaint seriously. i think corgan's done very well for a guy spewing shit calligraphy lyrics with a voice that sounds like jon lovitz with strep
― da croupier, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
If you guys were the authors of cherub rock you'd have invented cherub rock!
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
you know why Bilco isn't cool? because he complains about people acting like he isn't cool
― Οὖτις, Friday, 30 January 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link
he is cool because he makes good tunes and wears capes. these are the cool things now.
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
I'm not saying that BC is free of artistic crimes, but Thom Yorke's terrible cracking falsetto is not a great counterargument to BC's bad voice.
Here's an analogy that seems relevant. Bear with me, here. People HATE Wal-Mart for their bad labor practices, the way they put mom and pops out of business, their reputation for cheap crap, etc. But Target does the EXACT same shit, but many of the same people who hate Wal-Mart apparently have no problem with Target because, well, it's just... cooler. This ultimately leads me to believe that the reason many people hate Wal-Mart has nothing to do with the aforementioned shit (which is the thrust of many anti-WM arguments), but because Wal-Mart has an uncool reputation, being for low-class, uneducated, and unfashionable people, while Target has a reputation as being for educated, culturally-forward, fashionable people. Ultimately, these two stores are not all that far off from each other. They're both mass merchants who sell cheap crap. Everything else is mostly about image and clientele.
Likewise, the cultural collective says: Smashing Pumpkins is lame, low-class wankery for losers; Radiohead is sophisticated, innovative rock music for thinking people. But at their heart, I don't see them as being all that different.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
Machina II is better than OKC.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
Likewise, the cultural collective says: Smashing Pumpkins is lame, low-class wankery for losers; Radiohead is sophisticated, innovative rock music for thinking people.
i don't know who the cultural collective is, but they apparently don't write music reviews
― da croupier, Friday, 30 January 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link