Rolling Metal Thread 2014

I like mayhem too, of the non-murderous kind

My only problem with the new Prostitute Disfigurement album is that it's nowhere near as good as the one before it.

I just got a stream of the new Emmure album - the first track on that is called "Bring A Gun To School," and track 8 is called "Free Publicity." I love Emmure.

Oh, if I can go back about a zillion posts, if someone is trying to explore brutal death metal, the Prostitute Disfigurements of the world are not your only option. It's funny, though, my first impulse was to recommend Embryonic Devourment, whose songs are all about the David Icke conspiracy theories of a reptilian illuminati running the world (universe?) -- but then I remembered that a lot of people suggest Icke's ideas are anti-semitic and that "reptilian" is merely code for "Jewish." Maybe Hour of Penance? The Church, being the ultimate down-puncher, would be fair game according to The Rules. Conversely you could listen to Brodequin, who will regale you with detailed descriptions of every method of torture utilized by your friendly neighborhood Christian empire (historically speaking, of course). I listen to both and let them fight it out.

Funnily enough, I just listened to this year's Embryonic Devourment last week. It wasn't bad, but I didn't pay enough attention to the lyrics to pull out the Icke stuff until I read it in a review a few days later.

I think it's pretty clear that when Icke says "lizards" he doesn't mean "Jews," he means lizards. He's insane, you see.

hes snooker loopy

Maybe soon there will come a brutal death metal band writing songs about the conspiracy theory that David Icke's conspiracy theories are coded anti-semitism.

I wish there were more specialized-topic bands like Dim Mak to be honest

This conversation has entertained & enlightened me more than any of the bands ever could. I think I achieved gore nirvana when my parents refused to buy me Symphonies of Sickness for my 14th birthday. Quit while you're ahead and all that...

I've sat through a couple goregrind albums and kinda enjoyed them - Last Days Of Humanity - Putrefaction In Progress was recommended to me by a certain other metal musician & it's goddamn fucken impressive

listening again now. got really bad indigestion so this is perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68VUrXL0uqs

whoa
i clicked on that and this is what happened:

my eyes winced and i made a face
the music started and it made me feel sick
i lasted about 3 sec

this stuff is not for me at ALL
at least i know what it sounds like, kinda.

i don't begrudge anyone whatever they want to enjoy but it's not my kind of heavy or dark, that's all i mean
sorry for butting in every 2 years or so to pipe up for purely demographic reasons

Sounds like someone pouring ball bearings into a metal bucket.

one for the sticker

i appreciate aero's thoughtful comments abt goregrind's utility to trauma survivors, but i'm stuck with the impression that this kind of music (goregrind & pornogrind specifically) is produced by and large by guys for guys - mostly straight & white guys, but let's not dwell there. this is music for men that's all too often obsessed w first-person narratives about the butchery of women. and sure, butchery in general, but women do seem to bear the disproportionate brunt of it, especially where certain bands are concerned.

afaic, there's a blurry but very real threshold point past which explanations and intentions fade from view and what remains are the things themselves. here we have millions of men fantasizing endlessly, album after album, about raping and killing women. does this have potential art value and even positive social utility? sure, but only in the sense that everything does. i wouldn't begrudge anyone the right to draw boundaries wr2 such stuff, even when they're seemingly unconsidered or even incoherent.

millions of men

Ha ha, dude, how popular do you think goregrind is, exactly? I think "dozens" or "scores" of men is a more accurate description.

would imagine that millions of dudes have been into the likes of devourment, cannibal corpse & pig destroyer over the years. the world's a big place. i mean, i'm a dude and i like pig destroyer, wouldn't really lump them in w the other two, except, well, just a lot of women getting butchered all around. i'm not saying it's wrong, just weird and worth thinking about.

hundreds of thousands? i dunno. a lot.

huh wow gosh i wasn't thinking before but i've given it some thought and i'm really thinking now

lemme know how that works out

well, on the one hand

well, on the other hand

^ thoughtful post

^ booming thought

*gorenoise*

Are Last Days of Humanity all taking their tuning off the snare or what

dunno if it's really even metal (what is, these days?), but the new cynic is amazing. surprised to hear it described as less than accessible. certain passages recall the beatles, imo, which is about as good an accessibility benchmark as i can think of.

oh i don't think it's remotely as catchy as traced in air even, beyond "the lion's roar"

it's very good though

I'll listen if it has any songs as remotely awesome as "Nunc Stans" on it.

lol nunc stans

is there a joke or

sorry automatic reaction to reading the word "stans" on ilx instead of in a tracklisting

maybe yr right, i am for the moment all hung up on the beatleyness of "the lion's roar". and the title track, and "moon heart sun head" and "holy fallout", and... like most cynics, i'm sure it'll take some time before the whole thing really settles in, but nearly every track here has some fair best-on-the-album claim. and yes, remotely as awesome as "nunc stans" is the operating principle.

"stans" is Latin for "standing" (present participial iirc). "nunc" is Latin for "now."

good to know

oh also i don't think i like any of these new cynic songs as much as i like "box up my bones" from that ep a few years ago but who knows, it could grow on me

this particular usage seems to be from Boethius whose name you hardely ever hear any more

“Nunc fluens facit tempus,
nunc stans facit aeternitatum.

(The now that passes produces time, the now that remains produces eternity.)”

"nunc stans" = "the now that remains"

"nunc fluens" is also the intro to traced in air. cool

http://www.manowar-collection.de/Manowar1984Poster.jpg

Last, this Artificial Brain thing on Profound Lore is lining up nicely along the Demilich-Gorguts-Mitochondrion axis of weird: http://profoundlorerecords.bandcamp.com/album/labyrinth-constellation

a lot riff-groovier tho, and very loose guy-in-a-room feel on the drums

that sounds great in a 30-second sample, will bookmark for later

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2014/02/coffin-dust-this-cemetery-my-kingdom/

cheers

yeah ok that one is a lot more fun (cuz of thrash probably) than the artificial brain

seriously fuckin a TWIN GUITAR LEADS

i feel bad for people who lived in dark historical times where it just wasn't possible to double up some sweet guitar leads, it's like not having sunlight or blue skies

If you're not a fan of shredtastic technical death metal, you should probably avoid Hannes Grossmann's The Radial Covenant. He's the former drummer for Necrophagist, current drummer for Obscura, and also plays with Ron Jarzombek a lot. Jarzombek is on this album, as are Jeff Loomis, Per Nilsson (Scar Symmetry), Christian Muenzner (Obscura, Spawn of Possession), V. Santura (Triptykon) and a bunch of other folks. It's more melodic and power-metal-ish than you might expect, with less jazz-fusion bass than I'd hoped for, but still definitely an excuse for lots and lots of guitar solos.

oh fuck that sounds great

I think that Wayne still is in the Bay area. This seems like a fun couple of nights out for him and/or those who are:

Brainsqueeze Fest

Friday - April 18, 2014
Oakland Metro - All Ages
Ghoul
Cannabis Corpse
Final Conflict
Iron Reagan
BAT
Fucktard

Saturday - April 19, 2014
Oakland Metro - All Ages
Municipal Waste
Negative Approach
Fucked Up
Impaled
The Shrine
Kicker
Conquest for Death

Sunday - April 20, 2014
Eli's Mile High Club - 21+
Brainoil
Deny the Cross
Connoisseur
+ wild and unpredictable guests
BBQ + Andrei Bouzikov art showing

k has anybody heard of a d00d named J0hn F!nb3rg (aka F!rst R0w T@l3nt aka 3nt3rT✧✧✧@u✧✧.c✧✧)?

Basically, I bought a ticket to see Iced Earth on 4/24 of this year. The day after I purchased, I got a second email and ticket confirmation. I emailed to ask why and they (he) claimed I bought a second ticket. Instead of offering to investigate for me, he insisted I bought the ticket. After five emails and subsequent refusals to investigate any fraud, I initiated a chargeback.

To my surprise, I lost. He submitted documentation "proving" that I submitted two orders (his proof consisted of purchase orders his own company sent which didn't even contain IP addresses).

I began putting together my appeal and wrote them back demanding they investigate fraud, but he merely said he'd 'pass it onto legal' and since my anxiety has been out of whack lately, I decided to give up since it's less than $30.

I searched for the guy's name on the net and found SEVERAL character assassinations so I was wondering if this is a persona non grata I've never heard of? Honestly can't believe the shit this guy has put me through over one ticket - if I'd have ordered it by mistake, I'd have just eaten the cost, I've done dumb stuff like that before...but I was at a bar watching football at the time of the alleged 'purchase'.

If it's the same guy I am thinking of, he has been a booking agent for metal bands, mostly on the level of Metal Blade, Earache and the like, for decades now. He's also known as a douchebag of the highest order, fucking over bands and labels and managers all the time. Back when I was booking bands (and I discovered what a thankless job it is) he was considered a "necessary evil" to work with because hardly anyone would take on the bands that he did. But nobody enjoyed the experience and there were people who simply didn't work with him. So... Good luck if it's him (and I'm pretty sure it is).