Plus the most recent one, late 2013, where "Personality Crisis" finished way down the list with two votes (eight for the winner). That must have been the one on my mind.
― clemenza, Monday, 17 February 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link
Thau is getting lotsa love from folks commenting on Billy M & Miriam L of Norton Records facebook pages. But yea, Norton Records is not exactly young kid ilx friendly
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link
20 years ago i read mr thau's unpublished memoir-in-progress, allegedly considering an excerpt for the slick gen-x style magazine i worked for then. not esp well-written but chock full of great ny rock war stories. of course my bosses had no intention of using, it was a make-work project but i felt lucky to have read. RIP, sir
― Didi Bombonato (m coleman), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lKWZ3Ohod0
― Pentatonic's Rendezvous Band (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 01:48 (ten years ago) link
http://www.wnyc.org/story/making-music-critic/
See the first comment.
― Mon-El in the Middle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
geez, i wonder what she would have said if her son's first effort with the band hadn't gotten an A+?
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 February 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
Ha, yes, exactly. I am assuming she is completely unaware of that. The ironing.
― Mon-El in the Middle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 February 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
his bro is a kickass bass player who looks just like him. saw him back southside johnny maybe?
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 23 February 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
Might well have been. This project looks interesting: http://www.earlyeltontrio.com/bio_john_conte.html
― Mon-El in the Middle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 February 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec09/articles/classictracks_1209.htm
Jack Douglas:
"It doesn't sound good at all, but there's something about it that just works. I mean, I knew it wasn't sounding good when I was doing it, and you couldn't ask them, 'Let's get a sound on this.' You just couldn't. They had no patience for getting a sound on anything. 'Is there sound going through the microphone into the board?' 'Yes.' 'Well, that's good.'
― lute bro (brimstead), Saturday, 16 January 2016 10:37 (eight years ago) link
Box Set Coming: https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/new-york-dolls-personality-crisis-live-recordings-studio-demos-1972-1975-5cd-remastered-box-set/
― ...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 March 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link
Great but got it already.
First two discs are the Private World set on Castle (notwithstanding the obvious typos).
Third & forth discs are a straight copy of the From Here to Eternity set on Norton.
― everything, Friday, 16 March 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
Syl has cancer.
https://www.gofundme.com/sylvain-sylvain-of-ny-dolls-medical-support-fund?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fb_dn_postdonate_r&fbclid=IwAR3Bz7Z_kfZogjtStqFsWUjcokX5BN0mR_c1C8X1k59OjVBvCOeQdJAJ1NY
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 29 April 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link
Oh right, had seen some mention of a medical support fund on Facebook.His memoir was really good, read it a couple of months ago and would recommend it.Need to get the Jerry Nolan memoir too.
― Stevolende, Monday, 29 April 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link
the nolan book was readable and well researched, but has the same sad downward trajectory as other books about addicts. agree about syl's book. it's a much more personal and idiosyncratic journey.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 29 April 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
is it a challop to say their recorded output is pretty crap, barring a couple songs?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
A band I've always wanted to like more than I actually do. "Trash" and "Jet Boy" are great singles though. This Old Grey Whistle Test performance is pretty spectacular too
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbd-BcuPvLA
― The World According To.... (Michael B), Thursday, 7 November 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
yeah I've seen that, it is entertaining. They just kinda didn't have the songs or the performances when it came to making records. Personally p much all I need from the first album are the first two tracks.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link
Took me ages to get into all the album tracks, especially from the first one.
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link
it's not so much as a challop as it is something you would respond to one of those terrible twitter threads that's like YOUR UNPOPULAR MUSIC OPINIONS: GO
― na (NA), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
The first album is great, though admittedly I never listen to it these days. I'd rank "Trash" in my top five "rockers," no question.
― quinn morgendorffer stan account (morrisp), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
i like most of the first album. i don't get how anyone could dismiss "trash." "frankenstein" is a personal favorite but maybe not everyone is into a 6-minute new york dolls song.
― na (NA), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link
i don't know if i've ever listened to too much too soon. i should check it out.
― na (NA), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link
too much too soon is good! underratedhuh I like both albums a lot but the first one really lives up to it's billing to me
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link
I love 'em but...if you pruned one minute from every song I would not be mad
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
The real challops would be: the only good Dolls song is "Hot Hot Hot"
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
Lol.
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:27 (four years ago) link
The real challops would be: the only good Dolls song is "Hot Hot Hot"― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:21 PM
inject this directly to my veins, please.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link
That's what killed Johnny Thunders.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link
but to respond to the revive. . . yeah, i mean i always respected 70s nyd, but recently traded away the records (again) because it's stuff that i felt like i "should" have in my collection, not because i actually wanted it there.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
The late Adam Roth used to have a funny bit about Johnny Thunders.
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
golfclap to Austin + Grisso/McCain for that A+ setup/punchline
― quinn morgendorffer stan account (morrisp), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
First album is awesome all the way, dammit!!!
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
never made it past “stranded in the jungle” on the second one. I’m sure the rest of it rules.
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
it's worth getting past that - the David Johanson Novelty Songs are a big stumbling block on that one but Human Being and Chatterbox are all-time
― With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 7 November 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link
(my reissue copy of TMTS had a locking skip in Stranded in the Jungle on the line "My soul was dead" so I literally started skipping that track and it made the album better)
― With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 7 November 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
Personally p much all I need from the first album are the first two tracks.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:00 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
really??? "jet boy", "subway train", "trash", and boy do i love "lonely planet boy"
― brimstead, Friday, 8 November 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link
I don't love the second one, but the first has wonderful tracks all over, and "Lonely Planet Boy" is a personal anthem.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link
my love for this band knows no bounds. i saw them when i was 17, which might have something to do with it. in their red patent leather phase, shortly before they split. i love johansen's goofy covers, love the way johnny thunders guitar acts like a greek chorus to the lyrics. love how the lyrics don't exactly parse but sound so cool. oh, check this out -- i got this from the man himself: "well we can't take her this week, and her friends don't want another speech, hoping for her that someday they'll hear what she's gotta say." true quote from steve conte to johansen: "THAT's what you're saying?!?"
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 8 November 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
^great post!
― quinn morgendorffer stan account (morrisp), Friday, 8 November 2019 01:42 (four years ago) link
The first David Johansen album is a cleaner Dolls record, down to the co-writes. I recommend it to skeptics.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link
That's great--you're the second person I know who saw them first time around. (I mean, the other person I really do know.) He saw them in '73 or '74, I think at Toronto's Victory Burlesque Theatre...with Rush opening! Close as I got was seeing Johnny Thunders in '86 or '87.
First album, 10/10; second, 8 or 9/10.
― clemenza, Friday, 8 November 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link
for some reason i really enjoy most of the songs on the debut if i hear them in isolation, but it's not an album i ever feel like hearing all the way through. "lookin' for a kiss" sounds delightful on almost any playlist, but somehow i get tired of their sound in a way i don't with, say, the velvets or the stooges or even the ramones. i think my main issue is how sludgy the album's always sounded to me -- what i mainly enjoy is david johansen's singing.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 8 November 2019 01:59 (four years ago) link
Does this thread have a mention of Quintano’s School for Young Professionals yet?
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link
for some reason i really enjoy most of the songs on the debut if i hear them in isolation, but it's not an album i ever feel like hearing all the way through
Yes! I always wanna hear "Trash," "Frankenstein," "Lookin' for a Kiss," etc, but I don't wanna stream or play the album.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
New York Dolls are greatAesthetically their songs are “crap” I guess - they arent a finesse band by any means. But I dunno if that’s really what you seek out the Dolls for. Fun! Danger! Excitement! All their songs from the first 2 albums sound like something is on the verge of breaking, shorting out, exploding etc - like you have 45 minutes to make this record or the studio will self destructTo me they are the better, fuckup version Kiss. Shitty songs, a lot of terrible recording & not-great cohesion, and a Look. But NYD make you kinda love them for all that whereas Kiss repels it more and more over time. NYD have an endearing likeability that draws you in despite their terribleness & idk, give off this wacky (junkie) musketeers vibe that Kiss doesnt have. NYD feel like they are all still kids performing in front of their bedroom mirrors, living out a rocknroll fantasy, but playing it out in real life as adults with very few real-world concessions Can you tell that I love them? I LOVE THEM
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 November 2019 03:02 (four years ago) link
Trash is all time and if they only existed to do that it was worth it
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 8 November 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link
Veg with THE REAL TALK.
I DJ occasionally at a '70s Rock night, so I've been picking up at lot of favorites that I didn't previously have on vinyl. Back around the first of the year I scored a nice copy of the Dolls twofer Mercury put out back in the day to cash in on Punk. I hadn't listened to them in a while, but as soon as the needle dropped, I remembered just how much I'd loved them. That was a good night.
They had this goofy junkie joie de vivre, even in wonderful nightmares like "Frankenstein". The Dolls and Shadow Morton were a match made in Heaven on TMTS; between it and that one Mott single, it's a shame he didn't work with more Glam artists. I love their covers too, they were great at picking stuff that fit right in with their originals (and in pretty much every case, I discovered the originals through the Dolls' versions).
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2019 05:27 (four years ago) link
VG and C.G/M otm
― Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link
I love pretty much all of the 1st 2 albums.
2nd album gets maligned a bit but I think only because the first album is so good - an album with Who Are The Mystery Girls, Puss N Boots and Babylon on it can't be that bad surely
then there's their cover of Great Big Kiss. there's a few versions of that around, but there's one which sounds like a proper studio version, not just a sloppy demo, but it took me ages to track down where that came from - there are lots of NYD outtake/demo compilations out there, none of which have that version on - but I eventually found it on the Night Of The Living Dolls compilation LP
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 8 November 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link