THE WORST NME COVER OF ALL TIME

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So the trick is not bombard the reader with garbage and keep the framework of the piece simple in order to draw attention to what you actually have to say, while keeping within the limits of the word count?

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:41 (twelve years ago)


"One of the best things I learned was that it's often better to use the simplest terms than naff synonyms, in the same way that in interviews "says" is often better than "ponders", "avers", etc. "Second album" is better than "sophomore album", "guitarist" is better than "axeman", "guitar-wrangler", "fretboard wizard", etc. Worry about making the rest of the writing interesting, not jazzing up functional phrases that work just fine."

this.

mark e, Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:42 (twelve years ago)

Every article, whether about music or not, should contain the phrase "fretboard wizard" imo.

― pariah newsletter (seandalai), Thursday, February 6, 2014 5:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Haha... it's fair to say I laughed out loud when I read "fretboard wizard". It's as if The Who re-wrote one of their classic tracks to be about Steve Vai.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:43 (twelve years ago)

"That fretboard wizards got such a supple wrist!" *widdlywiddlywiddlywiddly*

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:44 (twelve years ago)

See also: "sticksman" for drummer and "beatmeister" for dance producer.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:47 (twelve years ago)

So the trick is not bombard the reader with garbage and keep the framework of the piece simple in order to draw attention to what you actually have to say, while keeping within the limits of the word count?

and also to have some fun, obvs. i mean, i think those rules apply to all kinds of writing, to be honest.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:47 (twelve years ago)

it depends upon the title, of course. metal mags were traditionally a little more pulpy than yer broadsheet or NME, and could fling about 'sticksman' without embarrassment.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:48 (twelve years ago)

iirc Stuart Maconie had a good bit about the 70s cliche "keyboard merchant" (Rick Wakeman et al) making him think of someone with a market stall shouting "Get yer keyboards! Lovely keyboards!"

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:49 (twelve years ago)

Given how often Wakeman's been bankrupt, I can actually imagine that being true.

the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:50 (twelve years ago)

I don't want to turn this into DL's writing seminar but one thing I'd tell any young writers is: don't fret about the language too much. Just have a theory and express it clearly. It amazes me how many write-ups about classic albums contain no ideas beyond received wisdom. I don't need to be told that The White Album is "sprawling" or Maxinquaye was a "seminal trip hop album". Listen again and find something new to say.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:53 (twelve years ago)

Important thread: tunesmithery

pariah newsletter (seandalai), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:54 (twelve years ago)

"Tunestrel" is unforgivable imo

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 6 February 2014 17:57 (twelve years ago)

Just have a theory and express it clearly. It amazes me how many write-ups about classic albums contain no ideas beyond received wisdom. I don't need to be told that The White Album is "sprawling" or Maxinquaye was a "seminal trip hop album". Listen again and find something new to say.

Absolutely! I guess this goes back to what I was saying earlier regarding what I enjoyed about Marcello's TPL articles, and how I'm not really expecting all that much from NME's retrospectives.

Anyhow, I've gleaned plenty of insightful tips from this thread today, so thanks everyone!

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Thursday, 6 February 2014 20:06 (twelve years ago)

Use of the word 'seminal' just automatically equates to "I have no original opinion about this" to me.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 February 2014 20:11 (twelve years ago)

"I jizzed listening to this"

(D1CK$) (sic), Thursday, 6 February 2014 21:31 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/13/nme-sales-falling-off-charts-music-magazine-circulation

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 13 February 2014 20:39 (twelve years ago)

http://fuckyouneilkulkarni.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/my-pompoms-are-too-droopy-some-thoughts.html?spref=tw

Williams, and everyone else at the NME, have to play a delicate balancing act between their own avowed poptimist eclecticism and the reactionary, snob nature of many of their indie-rock readership. Turner's speech, as Williams knew, was the ideal chance to shore up the NME's constituency, make sure they were in the tent pissing out. For all Williams' rather pointless ass-covering about Turner's speech not being about 'genre-elitism' a whole load of rights-for-whites-rocknrollers were in no doubt. In the FB thread we got pearls like "Without a doubt the most sensible thing Williams has written since taking over. Turners speech was inspired and necessary. Now the NME need to act. Stop writing about RnB and Hip Hop, it's dull and tedious. Indie/Alternative music is where the NME is strongest. Promote it, embrace it." Every NME thread has variants of this. The english-rock defence league.

Scooby Doom (۩), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 10:12 (twelve years ago)

That's true about certain readers and the NME's balancing act but the rest depends on assuming that Turner meant what the dim rockists think and not what Williams thinks. Judging anything by what the worst commenters think is disingenuous imo. (Although I do think Williams overstates his case too - "a call too arms"? Not really.)

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 10:40 (twelve years ago)

But then this is a man whose end of year list was 14,000 words about all the singles he hates.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 10:57 (twelve years ago)

lol @ 'a call to arms' featuring the line 'and there's nothing you can do about it'. Yeah man, I'm wid it just give me a gun and point me at the enemy.

UK Cop Humour (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:00 (twelve years ago)

Afaik Alex Turner has never delivered a call to arms in his life so I doubt he's decided to start now. He has, however, delivered many sarcastic deadpan acceptance speeches.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:04 (twelve years ago)

"no i thought i'd just shit in my pyjamas instead"

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:09 (twelve years ago)

oh wait, deadpan

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:09 (twelve years ago)

Surely Mumford & Sons are "Britain's biggest band"? Arctic Monkeys haven't actually sold all that many records, right? They're nowhere near 96 Oasis, right?

Williams' piece feels like desperate brand-alignment by NME, to me, one last push to associate themselves with the spirit of rock n roll while the carcass isn't even steaming anymore.

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:21 (twelve years ago)

Sales are broadly similar in UK terms - both hit 5 x platinum with first albums, but M&S sales in US are ten times higher than AM's.

heritage punk act (onimo), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:29 (twelve years ago)

Surely Little Mix are Britain's biggest band

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:33 (twelve years ago)

sorry forgot 1D existed

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:35 (twelve years ago)

good job Olly Murs isn't a band or that line wd be even ronger

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:36 (twelve years ago)

god how many clowns bought that Pastille rekkid?

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:38 (twelve years ago)

they might be irrelevant now but it's probably the rolling stones right?

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:44 (twelve years ago)

or iron maiden

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:44 (twelve years ago)

Nolans ftw

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:45 (twelve years ago)

wait are they irish?

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:45 (twelve years ago)

tbh, list of bands bigger than the Arctic Monkeys wd be a long list

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:46 (twelve years ago)

Gallon Drunk

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:46 (twelve years ago)

Red Lorry Yellow Lorry

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:46 (twelve years ago)

from ireland via blackpool iirc xps

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:46 (twelve years ago)

Kursal Massive

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:48 (twelve years ago)

God 1D. Of course. Fucking enormo-massive.

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:50 (twelve years ago)

Last Stones album sold 100k in UK, last Arctic Monkeys has already sold five times that.

Again, US sales make the Stones bigger.

heritage punk act (onimo), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 11:53 (twelve years ago)

The Meteors, they was good

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 12:07 (twelve years ago)

I think its fair to say arctic monkeys are pretty huge in the UK . They straddle the indie nme/kerrang market + crossed over to pop kids like my cousins 17 yo and friends who usually listen to Rihanna.

Scooby Doom (۩), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 12:21 (twelve years ago)

The Very Things

the immortal jellyfish will never die (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 12:22 (twelve years ago)

Have you just broken into the cupboard in our back bedroom or something?

night boat to mega therion (NickB), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 12:43 (twelve years ago)

Even in this discussion Coldplay can't get any credit, despite surely outstripping everyone except possible 1D in sales terms.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:00 (twelve years ago)

Coldplay hugely outstrip everyone including 1D with something like 60 million album sales worldwide. They're just so forgettable.

heritage punk act (onimo), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:13 (twelve years ago)

Ha! Despite the fact that Chris Martin's from Exeter (and my dad worked for his dad etc etc etc) and their first album is so British I kind of think of them as being a global / American / sans nationality thing these days.

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:54 (twelve years ago)

Because they've got so little character.

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:54 (twelve years ago)

I think its fair to say arctic monkeys are pretty huge in the UK . They straddle the indie nme/kerrang market + crossed over to pop kids like my cousins 17 yo and friends who usually listen to Rihanna.

― Scooby Doom (۩), Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I still find them quite easy to ignore, though. It's not like '96 Oasis where they were literally fucking everywhere!

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:55 (twelve years ago)

I think we have now safely established that Arctic Monkeys are not "the UK's biggest band".

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:56 (twelve years ago)


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