Deafheaven

well, you would probably need to know the originals to find it funny I suppose

I group my music by political persuasion, so I have refiled this album alongside Robert Wyatt's.

burn xp

Do you reject Wayne Coyne, and all his works, and all his empty promises?

idk who is even being serious anymore but you could listen to some more records, or you could ask for some recommendations?

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still catching up with this thread but ^^^^board description

So I'm finally listening to this album all the way through, and it's more varied and engaging that I thought it would be from the one track I sampled before. Huh. I might like this after all.

yeah, and ums' trail of dead comment was pretty otm

feel a little offended on trail of dead's behalf here, they could write a song

Still can!

yeah. I guess this deafheaven album is 4 variations of "It Was There That I Saw You" with shriekier vocals and some slower jangle songs in between.

it was there that i saw you has a bass riff to die for & deafheaven do not know what bass is

i like trail of dead, they were fun live they jumped all over the place and wrecked their drums and stood on stuff
i saw them open for queens of the stone age

i like source tags and codes a lot

true. deafheaven guitar sounds like The Walkmen guitar or something. riffs would be nice. xpost

if they had riffs, we'd probably just say they sound like nickelback, though.

I don't think Sunbather really needs bass. The multi-tracked guitar fills up the space pretty well.

feel like bass would limit the drum fills. don't think i'm prepared to give those up.

hmm, well see roxy's link upthread for how to fit pompousmetaldrumming and bass together i guess. i find d'ven's midrange guitarmash to be deeply mundane & uninspiring, like a sandwich filled with seven varieties of coleslaw

the only thing i'd call trail of dead out on is that 'will you smile again' great as it is should have been the absolute last time the did a song that played the 'frantic start, slow plodding middle bit, reprise frantic bit to finish' card, but it was very far from being their last such song

a great many bands have had a lot of drum fills while having bass

sXe & the banweeds?

ignore me

what?

and a great many bands had pianists playing with the saxophonist, but ornette coleman and deafheaven said enough already

hey jude (deafheaven's first album is called roads to judah!)
don't make it bad (deafheaven are bad!)
take a decent DN, and make it cornyyyyy (deafheaven are corny!)

has anyone used "The Shape of Metal To Come" as a Deafheaven headline? I bet that would make aerosmith so madd

thank you so much for my own new dn, sufjan grafton

always happy to help

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1484956/the%20flaming%20lips.png

<3

lollll

lmaaaao

also man i was really into trail of dead back in the day! kind of want to revisit it. i remember a prior revisiting in 2005 going well.

feeling old rn

Ornette and left Deafheaven dude are kinda sweater bros.

it's funny cos when SoJtC was released it was to universal acclaim

"It Was There That I Saw You"

I don't think I've ever listened to Trail of Dead before, but I just played this track. I hear a slight resemblance to Deafheaven, but man... those vocals. Give me shrieking over that any day.

i dont get the comparison to deafheaven at all tbh

I think it's the the loud-soft middle-loud structure that imago described that reminded me. The vox are def oceans apart.

And Oceans

lol I really like a lot of ToD but even I think the vocals (and lyrics) are pretty terrible.

i read lords of chaos on my iphone last summer.

At least we can rely on them for a good thread, though

I stumbled across this quote from a user review at Metal Archives that struck me as relevant. It's actually about Agalloch, but says:

"One of black metal’s better points was the way it managed to be both artistic in spite of being thoroughly nonacademic -– it was primal as fuck and rather silly but nevertheless articulate -- and managing to blow off or ignore most of what makes radio music sound like it was poured into a mold before release. But it seems to be a continuing theme, especially recently, that the bands in the “metal scene” most frequently praised for their artistry and creativity are the ones who back away from the murkiness of underground metal and move back towards the mainstream’s idea of what artistic music sounds like."

What do you think of this quote, Dominique? (It seems very obviously problematic to me.)

Depends on who's doing the praising. You could record the best and most innovative Death Metal album ever, but it won't get you reviewed on Pitchfork or get you a high Metacritic score. Write a competent metal album that crosses over with shoegaze, indie folk, post-punk or stadium rock, and you will.

The whole review is actually more problematic.

Tension between staying pure to a genre and looking outward for ideas is terribly old (see Dylan/Miles/James Brown/etc). The more problematic thing to me is the automatic conveyance of musical "progress" because a record references acceptable canon or some conventional musicality, but I don't think that applies really to Deafheaven (let alone Agalloch).

I'll only get worried when metal bands start talking about making their sgt pepper.

The quote, especially the last sentence, seems to invite some basic questions. What does "mainstream" mean here? Sales among the general public? Reviews in the music press? Academic esteem? Industry awards? These are all different things. What is "the mainstream's idea of what artistic music sounds like"? Beethoven? Miles Davis? Dark Side of the Moon? Bob Dylan? James Brown? The Clash? Tupac Shakur? Nirvana? Robert Johnson? Adele? Brian Eno? All of these have received canonization as great artists in one way or another. Is epic progressive metal or post-rock really "the mainstream's idea of what artistic music sounds like"?

(Ha, I'd typed this out before I saw your post that referenced some of the same artists.)

xpost

I'll only get worried when metal bands start talking about making their sgt pepper.

oh you will not be worried mister, you'll make a poll of metal sgt pepperses and be stoked. (sc. smiley-face here)

Seems like a lot of black metal was/is just as formulaic as "radio music"

Well, yeah, I really don't think Agalloch or even Deafheaven are guilty of applying 2010s 'radio music' formulae to metal.