Deafheaven

"jah warriors wear boots"

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Excellent work

Typed "Skadness" before realizing that Madness were actually a ska band and NOT a black metal band

The Skapecials

Almost typed "The English Skeet" before I realized that would turn the Beat into more of a crunk band than a ska band, which they already were.

This town is comin' like a grim and frostbitten kingdom

Bathory Live From Studio One

Dub in an elevator / pickitup pickitup while I'm goin down

this thread really is old ilx, from start to finish

kind of wishful to think that it could finish

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOMEBODY LOCK THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW DO IT DO IT DO IT I'M BEGGING YOU LOCK THR

hey everybody, i'm not a metal guy at all, but i cued up "under the sign of the black mark" on youtube yesterday because of this thread, and it kicked ass. cool record.

Hey everybody, I'm also not a metal guy at all, but I cued up the new Toni Braxton/Babyface album on Spotify yesterday because of this thread, and it kicked ass. It wasn't metal, though.

lol.

seriously though what is with all the nazi shit. how do you metal fans deal with that? i know mouthed off plenty on the varg thread already but i guess i'm genuinely curious. is it just an artifact of european politics generally?

I did nazi that question coming

i bet yr führerious with yourself now

the thing that's weird to me is that I am pretty confident in my ability to navigate/ignore fascist and racist industrial ppl, but when I approach metal I always feel like I'm going to open a jack-in-the-box full of hatred; part of that is conditioning from childhood but not all of it, and I can't figure out why this is a hurdle I can't navigate here when I can navigate it in other contexts

(the short answer might be as simple as "you like synths and machine clanking so you will put in the extra work to avoid assholes in order to enjoy them")

part of loving any art is figuring out whether the people who made it are awful and what that means (what's up tiger lily?). part of the fan experience of this genre is gingerly checking into whether the band is cool with white supremacy and eliminationism which seems a little more specific and on another order.

the thing that's weird to me is that I am pretty confident in my ability to navigate/ignore fascist and racist industrial ppl, but when I approach metal I always feel like I'm going to open a jack-in-the-box full of hatred; part of that is conditioning from childhood but not all of it, and I can't figure out why this is a hurdle I can't navigate here when I can navigate it in other contexts

^^^^^ otm. but only a certain strain of metal, right? not sure where, precisely, to draw the boundary-lines, but i feel like they can be drawn.

this is a q that has been discussed to death on other metal threads and it's kind of a dour unfun q. OTOH as deafheaven are so clearly Stalinists I can see where it pertains

omg they are stalinists?

this aggression will not stand.

yeah i know it has, i just felt like returning to nu ilm by ruining the thread

xp

you fascist goole

nattyfrost

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my god

p sure I read this one interview with one of the dudes from Deafheaven where the interviewer was like "so what's this title Sunbather mean anyway" and the dude was all "oh we called it that because we love Stalin, nbd" and the interviewer was also a Stalinist so they high fived

sick interview

"Sunbather" = we bathe in the never-setting sun of our never-ending empire

I read that one too

goole this thread may be for you What is the most offputting barrier to you listening to and enjoying certain types of music

this is a thread purely about hipster ska-metal

How do you singer-songwriter fans deal with all that Charles Manson shit?

we deal with Charles Manson shits on a shit by shit basis

I don't want no Commies in my car!

No Christians, either!

I think a lot of (though obv not all) the "fascist" imagery in industrial music has more to do with exploring broader ideas of fanaticism & oppression and the people making the music don't actually consider or proclaim themselves fascists. Whereas extreme metal (again, obv not in its entirety) harbors more people who espouse genuinely racist and reactionary and fascist ideas.

obvious pinkos

(not saying that the use of fascist symbols in industrial music is necessarily defensible or that there aren't tons of industrial fans making extremely poor judgment calls)

where's your stats for that crutis?

i counted

i think at the neo-folk end of industrial culture, a lot of the ambiguity falls away

In my experience, as being a fan of both genres, is that the industrial fans are way more likely to be racist/fascist. And then there's Neo-folk...

hah xp

Don't ruin Skanking Gristle for me please

Skank In June

Yeah, it really depends on what subculture you're talking about.. Your average NON fan is probably more reprehensible than your average Burzum fan. I meant the kind of industrial that DJP is talking about, which I gather is closer to the EBM end of the spectrum.

Coil-y weed

Front Line Ska-diddly

Jah Thirlwell

Front 420

Jahnesis P-Orridge

Einsturzende Spliffpuffen