Deafheaven

are people talking about neige's involvement with "aryan supremacy" in the wake of alcest blowing up? i know he has attempted to distance himself from that in one interview. just kind of wonder if it's coming up at all or if people just dont GAF

had never heard of it - elaborate!

he played on the peste noire album of that title, but was only ever an ancillary member of that band, if a member at all, and has since said publicly least once that he was never involved/interested in their political/idological crap

also ppl into alcest etc who are looking for recs, try Les Discrets

*ideological

oh! well i have their album 'folkfuck folie' but was never aware of their questionable leanings (whether or not they're aryan supremacists, it's perhaps an unhealthy fascination)

peste noire are not just questionable, they are explicitly racist

oh shit. well my brother gave me the mp3s amongst a shit-ton of other metal, kinda thinking i shd delete it now

kinda

'the burzum argument'

moved to trash

have put Ordo Ad Chao on, just to convince myself I'm still metal, also coz it's amazing and I've had a hankering to hear it all day thanks to this thread

xp to imago

i pretty much worship indria saray who played bass on several of their recordings, so it's hard for me to write off listening to those - it's complex, he's an asian dude that they had in the band for the fucked up reason that he made things smoother for them, like in situations where NS bands would see trouble, at certain border crossings etc. it's hard for me to lump him in with them and say "fuck them." i've never heard him speak on the matter at all tbh.

i should also say that they admit he is the greatest bassist in france, so not JUST for that fucked up reason, though they did always bring that up as a justification for him being in the band

peste noire being nazis really pissed me off, lorraine rehearsal was one of the great rehearsal albums every but they are especially gross racists yeah

i know. hard to take!

hmm. well i don't think any of their music stood out for me particularly but it is possible i may have enjoyed a few of their songs on shuffle mode. it's gone now; there's a lot of other great metal i won't have to listen to with the somewhat jarring thought of 'these lyrics might be militating for a white france'. poststructuralist appreciation grows harder in such explicitly political circumstances. has saray played on anything less uh problematic?

i should also say that they admit he is the greatest bassist in france....though they did always bring that up as a justification for him being in the band

― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, February 4, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not that I think anyone should stop listening to music made by racists or people who have immoral or unethical opinions. Personally, I have a complex view on the music I listen to, including BM, precisely because of where Norwegian BM is said to be rooted.

norway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JKlQ82BWB8

xp of course i realize that makes it worse

like, reread my sentence, i don't think you understood me

i mean ot that i really GAF considering youre a dude abnout to school us on your "complex" approach to norwegian BM and morality

lol

Comedy hour never stops on IL Xor.

imago: also triste sur, but there's not much out there. i can send u something. he also plays with alcest but not on any albums, just as part of the touring/live band

OTOH I did turn the song off and start playing Alcest, so make of that what you will

Ha, I started listening to Sunbather and switched to Altar of Plagues so...

ty rox, have just dug out headphones. this is already intense and oh shit is that a bass riff

norway?

― j., Tuesday, February 4, 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is really intensely melodic - I usually prefer my DM fucked-up and atonal - viz, Gorguts - but melodically imaginative stuff like this and Atheist is also totally my jam

get Geir on the case imo

o and if you wanna send me sthng i'd be v grateful - firstname dot secondname at gmail

I almost started talking about that noys scholarly article on peste noire/racism and then I realized that this is still the deathheaven thread and I already said they were terrible so I've done all I can here

you almost started talking about it

also, ad hominem is obv any attempt to defame an argumentalist's character, especially with regards to the field of argument. who the fuck cares if I like Redjetson aged 19

― imago, Tuesday, February 4, 2014 5:51 PM (4 hours ago)

Dude, it wasn't an attack, it was a question. I vaguely remember you rhapsodizing about Mogwai and related acts, but I could be wrong?

i liked mogwai circa that one with vampire on it. and i still like the christmas song. no shame.

This thread could do with some more recommendations for ppl who like deafheaven rather than more reasons why they're not very good.
Woods Of Desolation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA-TLekogvk
Austere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA07Sm1djdk
The Angelic Process
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNu9JuURXL8
Thy Light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMd3r0ZzDw
Àrsaidh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKz8dqMAu1Q
Les Discrets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ej7UkjdHNg
Nachtvorst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajyHTBihAKI
Westering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctdTK4k-Mxk
Drudkh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKfOGcm6QOk
Kultura Kureniya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeguKnbyjXY
Bosse-de-Nage

good recs. kind of short on overt racists tho.

dude, drudkh!

Unsurprisingly the only one of those I know is The Angelic Process, but it's fucking incredible

Haha point taken roxy

The Deafheaven reminds me of Katatonia's Brave Murder Day, if the growling were replaced by screaming. My favorite fake-Black-Metal album of last year is Stara Rzeka which is kinda like BM crossed with post-Fahey drone-folk.

Yeah, it's a great album. Lots of German psych-rock in the mix too

So who's gonna be the first to start a ska-black metal fusion band?

Not the idiots in Skathory I'll tell you that

Someone should post that Jogger video here asap - doing the sunbathing BM thing about 10x better and more amusingly than D'ven (I would but am on my phone)

fahey u say?

Yeah, it reminds me of some of his dirgey-er stuff.

skankthrone

skathory

bal-skagoth

oh im sorry i repeated skathory!

hviss ska tar oss