Mama Can't Buy You Love: The Official ILM Track-By-Track ELTON JOHN 1978-1988 Listening Thread

only thing i'd lose is the cloying electric piano. Porcaro's brush drumming is a nice touch, tho

weird to see it peaked #12 in the US: thought this was a much bigger hit.

big A/C hit though

Yeah I love this song, definitely one of my favorites of his. Chords are incredible, and it's up there with his best low-register performances. Always thought he was channeling Sinatra on this, probably because of the title!

Leslie Cantor2 months ago

This song is so beautiful! It makes me think of the woman of my dreams, Ashley, who has blue eyes, I love you baby!

beautiful performance of a beautiful piece of music with -- i hate to be that guy but someone has to -- a lyric that makes me see blue, like a blue turtleneck on a blue person with blue blue eyes on a blue man group blu-ray disc.

but then again, as we learned from years of john/taupin classics, elton is almost incapable of writing great music without a wtf lyric.

but bernie wrote wtf lyrics for the ages. this gary osborne effort just makes me blue.

stupid question that never occurred to me before: was the line "blue eyes laughing in the sun" meant as a play on "blue eyes crying in the rain," or is that giving osborne too much credit?

no, i think that's about the limit of Osbourne's wordplay.

the lyric's no masterpiece (but I think it generally works and there are some good lines). Shame EJ couldn't have teamed with Trust-era Elvis Costello for it.

"Empty Garden (Hey, Hey Johnny)"

http://youtu.be/RDRmDlJtIdU

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W99CVQqRl2Y/TtqEusUOj6I/AAAAAAAACGU/ngiZtgCJgdU/s1600/elton-lennon-thanksgiving.jpg

McCartney's "Here Today," released the same year, is the only Lennon tribute that matters: it's a man humbled by life, still sounding half in shock from his loss and grateful for his memories.

I'm sure Elton's anguish was real but this tribute veers from the maudlin to the grotesque: the ridden-to-exhaustion metaphors, the harpsichord fills that sounds like they're from The Exorcist.

"JOSHUA LOVEHALL
1 year ago

I remember The Day John Lennon was killed. It was a cold cloudy day in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It was Big News But there was one bright spot that day. My Niece was born. She only knows about John because every now and then I tell her how on the day she was born A great Man was assasinated."

The hey-look-we-got-keyboards! arrangement is a bit much, agreed, but the verses are okay.

Paul Simon's "The Late Great Johnny Ace" is tops.

"Princess"

http://youtu.be/Dq4c8HAW-l0

http://31.media.tumblr.com/862d95902a9451e4ee39328af7d4a84a/tumblr_mr2ox0GSdJ1syijoxo1_1280.jpg

can we study this photo

are they exchanging gifts? Did Elton go to Tiffany's?

Elton mistakenly gave the president coke in a box.

not quite as epic as the time the Reagans met Crockett and Tubbs in what looks like Tony Montana's mansion:

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/C30787-7.jpg

did Philip Michael Thomas borrow a drape as a top coat?

anyhow, "Princess": another track in the ongoing theme of intriguing verses/dull choruses. I was okay with it until that awful "you're my..PRIN CESS" tag thing which is just atrocious

the Reagan Library's "celebrity" photo page is amazing. Here's Cher, Robert Rauchenberg, Bruce Jenner and Tom Cruise with the Gipper in '85:

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photographs/large/C31673-17.jpg

i mean Nancy! Ron was dozing in the lounge during this

love Ronnie's wig.

so uh the song

reagan looking off to the right in elton white house photo looks strikingly like obama looking off to the left in his most iconic pose.

also, don johnson's face is oranger than john boehner's.

nothing to say about this one, eh?

Using his upper register in the chorus was an unexpected surprise; so are the guitar squiggles. Again, I'm impressed by how chunky this mix sounds. Chris Thomas seems to have thought about how he wanted Elton's songs arranged (they would have been lost in the stew on 21 at 33 and The Fox).

agreed with alfred that this is a really good-sounding song, and with col that it's musically a good verse (about as much as you could expect of a mid-period elton john album track, maybe even more) tied to an unfortunate chorus.

but wow those lyrics. i knew gary osborne was bad, but "you are my princess/you make me smile/you make my life seem worthwhile"? was elton sentenced to write songs with osborne as punishment for a drug conviction?

also, that squiggly synth lead at the end makes no sense at all unless it was played on a keytar, in which case i understand.

the concluding synth solo = musical equiv of Osborne

"Where Have All the Good Times Gone"

http://youtu.be/M7OlV1tBIlo

http://www.queenconcerts.com/inc/photos-guest/1982-11-19.jpg

I shuddered when I saw the title; it turns out to be Spinners-like medium tempo rock-soul number.

yes, was bracing myself for a bad Kinks cover

what's odd is that there's another version issued as a B-side of "Ball and Chain"---might as well cover it now:

http://youtu.be/_jb0qNqZ5OA

I like the LP version much more: a throwback in sound to A Single Man. It foreshadows the Motown-Baby Boomer nostalgia mush of The Big Chill and Rod Stewart's godawful "Motown Song" (I guessed it was an Osbourne lyric, but no, it's Bernie), but it swings a lot more than the latter and sounds great: strings are recorded/mixed well. The bridge sounds like Elton had an idea that he forgot to develop.

One more song left. Unless it blows, I'm thinking this IS his best album since '75.

One more song left. Unless it blows..

there's still a chance: it's long and it's "political"

while the chorus directs me to remember the four tops, i find myself remembering two earlier eltons instead. the electric piano and strings intro made me want to hear "philadelphia freedom," while the nostalgia for young and innocent days made me think of "crocodile rock" and how there's really no incarnation of elton that makes me want to listen to nostalgia for young and innocent days. better when he embodies it than when he tries to tell us about it.

and, hey, young and innocent days is a kinks song. and while "where have all the good times gone" is not a cover, the phrasing of the chorus -- "won't somebody tell me" -- is pretty close to the kinks. intentional, perhaps?

"All Quiet on the Western Front"

http://youtu.be/NK-zDxQKXOY

http://www.battlefield-tours.com/Western_Front_stagnation.jpg

The first twenty seconds reminded me of early eighties intro music to a PBS documentary.

Peter Minagro
3 years ago

Notice how this song seems like its going to end like 5 times and keeps going. Well that is in reference to this war because as everyone at the time thought this war was going to end on 4 or 5 different occations but kept going. Just thought that was a brillient thought by Elton to end the song that way.

Peter Minagro OTM

from the bio: "In a rare editorial mode, Elton demanded one deletion from Bernie's lyric. "There was one line that said 'thin white men in stinking tents'. And I said, "Bernie, I can't sing 'thin white men in stinking tents.' It's not an attractive line to sing. So we changed it."

this is flat-out awful, an unwelcome return of The Fox. What is with that intro? yeah, '80s PBS documentary incidental music about sums it up. Why are there jingle bells and cathedral organ fills on this thing? (One assumes we'll get a "choir" at some point and we do.) EJ sounds like a dying seal at the start of the chorus; Porcaro sounds like he's performing CPR on the track a half-dozen time.

Still, lop this dud off the end and Jump Up! is the best thing EJ did since Rock of the Westies

Jump Up! B side:

"Hey Papa Legba"

http://youtu.be/npQZfJtE__Y

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/PA-7165446.jpg

"The Retreat"

http://youtu.be/yB-_GI-Z7WA

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fEvQ7wKKRko/0.jpg

Aptly named b-side of "Princess." A Fox outtake.

Tomorrow: the full Elton comeback.

one more! "Take Me Down to the Ocean," B-side of "Empty Garden"

http://youtu.be/c_DaEm6mfIs

have we encountered one good EJ B-side yet? Still, I'd probably put "Papa Legba" in place of "Western Front" on Jump Up

"Papa Legba" and "The Retreat" aren't bad, even if the latter sounds like "Harmony" w/out the beautiful chorus.

"the retreat" could've worked on desperado! if only he'd ditched that synth raveup at the end and brought in bernie leadon instead.

I'm holding out some hope that "Strangers", which we missed, is a classic.

Lolling hard at the cover of this b-sides comp (a bootleg?) btw:
http://d3cvzp1meg27xm.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/elton_john_flip_it_over.jpg

...neatly, it encompasses the non-LP story to date in this thread.

http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-5203186-1387358142-3931.jpeg

Too Low For Zero!

"Cold As Christmas"

http://youtu.be/hohf6KUndBM

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/312yE9oEmAL.jpg