Deafheaven

outsiders often sweep into the metal world and, believing most metal fans are dumb or w/e, start acting like instant experts of this new thing they've discovered, trampling on and disrepecting people who have spent more than a summer on it, you know?

the thing w/ stuff like this is it's so vague as to be almost meaningless

like I always feel that one person's "acting like instant experts" is someone else's "is really excitable about music and wants to share that with others"

obviously I'm not questioning the existence of obnoxious neophytes

I listened to this band and it just reaffirmed that I find most "post-rock" and music that has a significant element of "post-rock" boring. I'm still unclear on what post-rock is, but I'm going off of what gets identified as of that genre.

*Reads through this thread and notices that there are a lot of Deafheaven haters*

*Calls up all the Deafheaven haters*

*Leaves them each a voicemail where I play the entirety of the Deafheaven album through the phone*

*The Deafheaven haters check their voicemail*

Dang... this is grim. These... these kvlt lords play it trve

*The Deafheaven haters check their voicemail*

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

How should new black metal fans pay appropriate tribute to Americans who got into it 10 years after the fact as opposed to 20 years after the fact?

traditionally, a gift of aluminum

alternately they can just share their stories about their first flaming lips concert

you guys are just mean

What level of enthusiasm for BM are people who haven't listened to a huge amount of it allowed to display? If I quite like the Deafhaven record and A Blaze in the Northern Sky but haven't sat down with a great deal of other records do I just not mention BM?

idk who is even being serious anymore but you could listen to some more records, or you could ask for some recommendations?

"You wanna be a black metal fan? You can't just go buy any album...it's scientific. You gotta buy this...Filosofem...it's the departure point. Listen to it every night around dusk for a month."

"But listen...there's a burden that every real black metal fan's gotta live with, that's the fact that Mayhem, the greatest black metal band of all time, is never gonna play again. You can't live in the past, man"

"Here, take this....it's a Hellhammer cassette, one of the last in existence. I want you to steal a car, get it in and drive west. Play the tape full blast, when the tape ends, get out and get into a fight."

"Here, take this....it's a Hellhammer cassette, one of the last in existence. I want you to steal a car, get it in and drive west. Play the tape full blast, when the tape ends, get out and get into a fight."

I owe you dinner for this one

i saw Mayhem live only a couple of years ago...

I've only played a couple of songs but Deafheaven kind of sounds like The Joy Formidable covering Sigur Ros covering The Foo Fighters while the singer runs barefoot across a floor full of tacks

aka, the Flaming Lips.

dog latin my fact checking dept is off today so i couldn't get them to vet my dumb kids in the hall jokes

ahahaha dan/EZ

he don't use wiki

call all destroyer: didn't want to turn this into a BM recommendation thread.

don't worry about it, DY. You should check this one out

like I always feel that one person's "acting like instant experts" is someone else's "is really excitable about music and wants to share that with others"

― wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, February 4, 2014 5:33 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really excited about musician bios and automatically believing that people who know 1000x more than him know way less than him, is my experience of the obnoxious metal neophyte

admittedly my experience is probably colored by my being a woman

i mean, i don't know how that could be "meaningless" unless you just never experience this type of person, which is possible

I honestly can't think of a representative experience I've had that would fit the bill, which I daresay is, accordingly, helped by my being a guy

it may be that I'm really tone-deaf abt this kind of thing idk

iwant to make sure that my important opinions are recorded in this important thread so part 1 i dont give 2 fucks abt genrewhatever in metal or not etc but part 2 this band by the important metric of being any good is total goddamn garbage and i have no idea what people are digging about it.

amazing thread, i hope an npr podcast metal album comes out every six months

I'm still trying to unwrap exactly what we are arguing about at this point, but it's kinda hard to see for all the straw.

all I know is that I wanted to sing "Everlong" over the first song on the album

this thread is hilarious in a "grade-school playground bullshit except perpetrated by so-called adults" sort of way

how much do we gotta pony up to see that on YouTube DJP

and by hilarious i mean sad

alpine static otm

aaanyway, black metal is so over anyhow, 2K14 belongs to DARK JAZZ #darkjazz

otm #darkjazz

just got my deafheaven voicemail. I pitchshifted it down and put some trip-hop beats underneath it and wrote to several online publications demanding I be awarded metal album of the year

all I know is that I wanted to sing "Everlong" over the first song on the album

This is sort of why I like it, though. I think of it as an epic anthemic rock album, sort of like a screamy Siamese Dream. ("Everlong" is one of my favourite radio singles of the 90s so ymmv.)

there was zero judgment to that post btw

OTOH I did turn the song off and start playing Alcest, so make of that what you will

Oh great DJP, just trade in 2013's divise non-metal metal album for 2014's, that'll help us all.

just got my deafheaven voicemail. I pitchshifted it down and put some trip-hop beats underneath it and wrote to several online publications demanding I be awarded metal album of the year

― joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, February 4, 2014 5:40 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cant wait for skot to publish his response to this email

now that dan says it, i kinda feel like "the colour & the shape" era foo fighters were sort of more influential on modern active rock bands in the long run than nirvana was

Oh great DJP, just trade in 2013's divise non-metal metal album for 2014's, that'll help us all.

^_^ happy to be of service!

Haha, hoping you picked up the humor intented in that one.

oh man come on, of course I did

Is it okay to casually dip into genres outside your main areas of interest without necessarily wanting to become an expert? Engels said that specialization is one of the great horrors of capitalist society, I think, and I don't think it's bad to be omnivorous in one's interests. This was an issue in the pitchfork thread too regarding a john fahey primer. My opinion on Deafheaven is coming from a different place than aero's or someone's but I don't think it's invalid or that I should prefer Mayhem or Celtic Frost to this or something.

You mean the inverse, surely

loving you for that engels quote treeship

Honestly, i love the ilx metal threads because they helped me discover a bunch of stuff i like such as darkthrone and uncle acid, the latter which led me to revisit sabbath. But I don't want to listen to as much metal as those guys do because I have a limited amount of time on earth.