I can't make head or tail of that post, julio.
I'm not sure you can draw any conclusions about ILM from the established artists that did well this year. They did well because they came back with good product. If an old favourite returns with something sub-standard, we're gonna call them out.
e.g. this 'we used to like you' section of the results:
205 The-Dream - IV Play 118206 Low - The Invisible Way 116[...]209 The Field - Cupid's Head 115[...]211 Camera Obscura - Desire Lines 114[...]213 Phoenix - Bankrupt! 113214 Iron and Wine - Ghost on Ghost 112
See also Jay-Z and the Y of GAPDY getting no votes at all.
― Jeff W, Friday, 31 January 2014 12:54 (ten years ago) link
Also, ILM, as broad as it is, is still populated with a very specific type of person.― the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Friday, January 31, 201
― the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Friday, January 31, 201
Um.
I think "type" is doing just way too much intellectual lifting in this sentence to be of any meaning at all.
― Another derivative, mainstream-sounding girl made of beards (Branwell Bell), Friday, 31 January 2014 12:55 (ten years ago) link
Jeff - I was just annoyed that m b v was highly rated, I found it really poor.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 31 January 2014 13:06 (ten years ago) link
<i>I think "type" is doing just way too much intellectual lifting in this sentence to be of any meaning at all.</i>
Yeah that's true, and obviously massively generalising. But I think, broadly speaking, that the way discourse here exists and procreates, lends itself to people with certain traits - such as a deep analysis and understanding of / interest in cultural motivators, often recoiling from received wisdom, amongst other things. Massive, pedantic geeks, basically. It's very much not like any other music discussion community I've ever come across.
― the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 January 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link
Again I fee a wee bit guilty about not voting, as I would've pushed QOTSA and possibly Run the Jewels into the top 77.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 31 January 2014 13:25 (ten years ago) link
MBV may not have deserved to be at number three, but Daft Punk didn't deserve to be at number two and Haim didn't deserve to be at number one, so it all evens out in the end.
― emil.y, Friday, 31 January 2014 13:57 (ten years ago) link
I really don't get the hype with Haim.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 31 January 2014 13:59 (ten years ago) link
They're girls don't you see
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link
Good job, once again ILM's poll is like no other. A little bit country, a little bit rock/metal/avant/hip-hop, and an assload of glossy R&B & pop!
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 31 January 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link
What is it about m b v that makes people say the dumbest shit when they don't like it?
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link
It's an incredibly shoddy record that no one in their right minds would have paid any attention to, were it not for the 20 year wait and the gimmicky way they released it?
― Another derivative, mainstream-sounding girl made of beards (Branwell Bell), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link
for the record, the 20-year gap since loveless is definitely the thing i love most about m b v
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:11 (ten years ago) link
Anguished non-voters may be consoled by the knowledge that you'll be able to make amends in just 351 days time!
― the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
Well, you both are in the minority. I adore the disc, though I had it #4 on my meager metallic list.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
If you had 20 years worth of records sounding just like that between then and now, it really wouldn't seem the slightest bit spectacular.
(My shoegaze reunion attention was entirely taken up by Medicine, but people ignored them now, just like they ignored them then.)
― Another derivative, mainstream-sounding girl made of beards (Branwell Bell), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
It's an incredibly shoddy record that no one in their right minds would have paid any attention to
Things that can be said about 99% of this poll, part 12049871359873150861356097
― emil.y, Friday, 31 January 2014 14:15 (ten years ago) link
what is the ratio of top77 that can't be described as 'incredibly shoddy'
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link
?
"Something which I used to like a lot, and meant a huge amount to me when I was young, has now come back in a vastly inferior form and everyone is going apeshit for it, and I don't understand why, and this annoys me."
There, happy?
― Another derivative, mainstream-sounding girl made of beards (Branwell Bell), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link
very much so.
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link
the huerco s. record was a disappointment
vehemently disagree
― Lamp, Friday, 31 January 2014 14:20 (ten years ago) link
Phantom Menace syndrome.
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link
well that was also shit tbf
― regret it? nope, said it? yep (Noodle Vague), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link
Anakevin Shieldwalker
― keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
did that MBV album have a jar jar binks equivalent?
― bills mar honoring da silver and black (sarahell), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
she posted above
― balls, Friday, 31 January 2014 14:39 (ten years ago) link
Think my favorite takeaway from this poll is John Grant's Black Belt.
― bilbo bobbins (how's life), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Mine too! I bought the album last night. Quiet stunner.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
The new finds I've been enjoying most are Maya Jane Coles, Danny Brown and Classixx.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link
ok i'm on the third song of the 1975 album--how many fuckin' times is this guy going to say "petticoat"
― call all destroyer, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link
considerably less than he says "mouth"
― prolego, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
yeah i'm pretty sure i get why some of you guys like this album but this is not for me
― call all destroyer, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:26 (ten years ago) link
― Lamp, Friday, January 31, 2014 9:20 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'll have to listen to it again and try to see why. i thought everything he did that wasn't on the LP was so much stronger, especially the stuff as royal crown of sweden.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 31 January 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Friday, January 31, 2014 10:01 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― some dude, Friday, 31 January 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link
alright, yeah, with 'ragtime u.s.a. (warning)' i'm sinking into the vibe for real. i wish i had been listening to this the other night when i drove through some of the thickest fog i've ever been in at like 4am.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 31 January 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link
although i was listening to the woo daps mixtape and that was a cool experience, too
― bilbo bobbins (how's life), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:50 (3 hours ago) Permalink
Seriously, thanks for the John Grant you guys. I had only heard GMF, which sounds nothing like the rest of this album.
― voodoo chili, Friday, 31 January 2014 17:59 (ten years ago) link
It's such a fantastic album.
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
how do you guys rank the remixes?
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
yeah idk how much john grant i need in my life but it's a very cool, weird album and i'm glad dan and others pushed it so hard.
also i had kinda blown off sky f. when it was released but damn it's working for me today.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link
Thanks poll runners! And wins for the Haim joke.
― Tim F, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
Taylor S aside I haven't generally been into the pop-country ILM pushes, so the extent to which this Kacey Musgraves is hitting a spot I didn't even know I had is a very nice surprise.
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
Serious question: pop country as opposed to what country?
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
alt country duh
― some dude, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:58 (ten years ago) link
Even I like Kacey Musgraves! I wasn't aware that I wanted some disarming honesty in my life, but there it is.
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link
ha, yeah, i guess by pop country i really just mean modern country (indicating my general ignorance).
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link
brandy clark is trying to rouse empathy, not anger, because unlike you, she understands that a simple, elegant description of how things are that rings true can be more powerful than noisy rabble-rousing
― lex pretend, Friday, January 31, 2014 8:08 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fair - I accept that it is my failing that I cannot fully empathise with the message because of my aversion to the music - my personal preference is for a bit of high drama, shock & awe, grand sonic theatre - this sort of music is very understated and plays towards and within fairly rigid genre conventions. perhaps I shall keep trying - through careful listening and maturity I've overcome aversions to other sorts of music, once professed in ignorant childhood (punk, classical, rap, r&b), even if I tend to gravitate towards the more sonically and structurally ambitious examples of each of these
thanks for at least explaining it rather than getting all precious like yr yankee counterparts
― 141 Jute Gyte - Discontinuities 142 drake - nothing was the same (imago), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link
I keep meaning to start a pop-country recommendations thread for people who are new to the genre to learn about what they have been missing all these years. Seems crazy in retrospect that Allison Moorer, Brad Paisley, etc were completely overlooked in the UK.
Suspect that it would devolve into me posting Judds YouTube clips and Seminole Wind pretty quickly, though, and putting people off forever.
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:12 (ten years ago) link
Imago, did you get past the first few songs to Take A Little Pill, Hungover, etc?
― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link
don't you dare talk like that about Seminole Wind :)
― sleeve, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link