ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2013

For individual artists maybe but not in general

so you're saying popular music hasn't moved on since the days of Scott Joplin?

OTOH it's also a bit weird that half the top ten were artists that could easily have featured in EOY 2003.

(that is, if MBV had chosen to release an album ten years ago)

change isn't the same as "moving on", the latter has a kind of Whig-ish idea of progress attached to it?

which is even tied into "the new", maybe

i think there are more interesting and possibly more accurate ways of mapping culture. "mapping" for example, implies spatial relationships rather than temporal ones, and kind of takes notions of cause and effect out of the equation

Yeah, some stuff just happens at the same time and retrofitting movements isn't helpful. Actor-network theory needs considering too; modes of production and distribution etc etc. Software packages. Cheap processing power.

Also, ILM, as broad as it is, is still populated with a very specific type of person.

I don't even know if ILM-ers love MBV or not. A fan of MBV would hate m b v!!

no.

I can't make head or tail of that post, julio.

I'm not sure you can draw any conclusions about ILM from the established artists that did well this year. They did well because they came back with good product. If an old favourite returns with something sub-standard, we're gonna call them out.

e.g. this 'we used to like you' section of the results:

205 The-Dream - IV Play 118
206 Low - The Invisible Way 116
[...]
209 The Field - Cupid's Head 115
[...]
211 Camera Obscura - Desire Lines 114
[...]
213 Phoenix - Bankrupt! 113
214 Iron and Wine - Ghost on Ghost 112

See also Jay-Z and the Y of GAPDY getting no votes at all.

Also, ILM, as broad as it is, is still populated with a very specific type of person.

― the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Friday, January 31, 201

Um.

I think "type" is doing just way too much intellectual lifting in this sentence to be of any meaning at all.

Jeff - I was just annoyed that m b v was highly rated, I found it really poor.

<i>I think "type" is doing just way too much intellectual lifting in this sentence to be of any meaning at all.</i>

Yeah that's true, and obviously massively generalising. But I think, broadly speaking, that the way discourse here exists and procreates, lends itself to people with certain traits - such as a deep analysis and understanding of / interest in cultural motivators, often recoiling from received wisdom, amongst other things. Massive, pedantic geeks, basically. It's very much not like any other music discussion community I've ever come across.

Again I fee a wee bit guilty about not voting, as I would've pushed QOTSA and possibly Run the Jewels into the top 77.

MBV may not have deserved to be at number three, but Daft Punk didn't deserve to be at number two and Haim didn't deserve to be at number one, so it all evens out in the end.

I really don't get the hype with Haim.

They're girls don't you see

Good job, once again ILM's poll is like no other. A little bit country, a little bit rock/metal/avant/hip-hop, and an assload of glossy R&B & pop!

What is it about m b v that makes people say the dumbest shit when they don't like it?

It's an incredibly shoddy record that no one in their right minds would have paid any attention to, were it not for the 20 year wait and the gimmicky way they released it?

for the record, the 20-year gap since loveless is definitely the thing i love most about m b v

Anguished non-voters may be consoled by the knowledge that you'll be able to make amends in just 351 days time!

Well, you both are in the minority. I adore the disc, though I had it #4 on my meager metallic list.

If you had 20 years worth of records sounding just like that between then and now, it really wouldn't seem the slightest bit spectacular.

(My shoegaze reunion attention was entirely taken up by Medicine, but people ignored them now, just like they ignored them then.)

It's an incredibly shoddy record that no one in their right minds would have paid any attention to

Things that can be said about 99% of this poll, part 12049871359873150861356097

what is the ratio of top77 that can't be described as 'incredibly shoddy'

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"Something which I used to like a lot, and meant a huge amount to me when I was young, has now come back in a vastly inferior form and everyone is going apeshit for it, and I don't understand why, and this annoys me."

There, happy?

very much so.

the huerco s. record was a disappointment

vehemently disagree

"Something which I used to like a lot, and meant a huge amount to me when I was young, has now come back in a vastly inferior form and everyone is going apeshit for it, and I don't understand why, and this annoys me."

Phantom Menace syndrome.

well that was also shit tbf

Anakevin Shieldwalker

did that MBV album have a jar jar binks equivalent?

she posted above

Think my favorite takeaway from this poll is John Grant's Black Belt.

Mine too! I bought the album last night. Quiet stunner.

The new finds I've been enjoying most are Maya Jane Coles, Danny Brown and Classixx.

ok i'm on the third song of the 1975 album--how many fuckin' times is this guy going to say "petticoat"

considerably less than he says "mouth"

yeah i'm pretty sure i get why some of you guys like this album but this is not for me

the huerco s. record was a disappointment

vehemently disagree

― Lamp, Friday, January 31, 2014 9:20 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'll have to listen to it again and try to see why. i thought everything he did that wasn't on the LP was so much stronger, especially the stuff as royal crown of sweden.

ok i'm on the third song of the 1975 album--how many fuckin' times is this guy going to say "petticoat"

― call all destroyer, Friday, January 31, 2014 10:01 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

alright, yeah, with 'ragtime u.s.a. (warning)' i'm sinking into the vibe for real. i wish i had been listening to this the other night when i drove through some of the thickest fog i've ever been in at like 4am.

although i was listening to the woo daps mixtape and that was a cool experience, too

Think my favorite takeaway from this poll is John Grant's Black Belt.

― bilbo bobbins (how's life), Friday, 31 January 2014 14:50 (3 hours ago) Permalink

Seriously, thanks for the John Grant you guys. I had only heard GMF, which sounds nothing like the rest of this album.

It's such a fantastic album.

how do you guys rank the remixes?

yeah idk how much john grant i need in my life but it's a very cool, weird album and i'm glad dan and others pushed it so hard.

also i had kinda blown off sky f. when it was released but damn it's working for me today.