slint -- _spiderland_: classic or dud

maybe there'll be a less deluxe-o version? would like to hear those bonus cuts, don't really care about a t-shirt.

http://cdn2.pitchfork.com/news/53769/15398dae.jpg

it's expensive, but if you think about the amount of work and the cost of putting together something like this, it's hard to believe they can do it for only $150.

ordered tbh

If I wasn't saving up money for a security deposit/new furniture I would totally (resentfully) drop the money on this tbh :-/

good a time as any to mention this now…

I'm very sorry that I did not contribute to any discussions on ILM re: Slint that the esteemed sctttnnnt (pgwp) may have noticed a few years ago, because I would have been a pretty good interview for his book.

I grew up in Louisville: while I grew up with Will Oldham (as well as drew D, who doesn't seem to come around here anymore), the fellas that would make up Slint were intimidating as fuck to me. Somehow I never saw a Maurice show (saw dozens of Kinghorse ones, tho). I was not immersed n the punk rock scene to the extent that like hundreds of kids my age did.

But I saw the first three Slint shows: first was at Tewligans, winter '87, opening for Killdozer. I thought "yeah, four all-stars from the baddest bands around! this is gonna be the most terrifying metal I've ever heard." Instead it was the Tweez shit, which terrifying in an entirely more bewildering way.

Second was at a battle of the bands at my school that I booked; my own band opened, which made me feel like a gnat trying to measure up to a behemoth. One of my buddies videotaped the whole show, and we would watch their show over and over again: the little brother of the guy who taped it taped a UofL game over it, which is funny cause the little brother was a drummer in L'ville hardcore band of note in the 1990s.

third was at a VW hall that had Big Black and Urge Overkill too. I guess this was the time that Albini and the UO guys were tight, and then the UO guys sold out or behaved in a way that Albini didn't like, which results in him still, after 30 years, talking shit about them on the Electrical Audio Boards. saw them again in lville and 90, when they played some Spiderland shit, and then again at Irving Plaza in 06, surrounded by several thousand more people than at any I had been to previously.

What someone upthread said was much much more true for me at that time: those guys were way way ahead of everyone. It was baffling that the Tweez shit had as few precedents as it did. I was away from Louisville when Spiderland came out, which was again remarkable that it had as little to with Tweez as it did.

Later I had some awkward encounters with BW, but there can be no doubt that he is unlike any drummer who ever walked the Earth prior.

150 bucks seems like a pretty fair price for all that imo. not sure I need to own any more of Spiderland than what I've already got but that sounds like a very nice box set to have if yr really into the record

I feel like I kind of want this, even though I haven't listened to "Spiderland" in yrs, that record is kind of burned into my DNA

Fuck maybe I should just charge it

Veronica, that's amazing. I researched the hell out of Slint during that period, to the point that pretty sure I've pieced together a list of every single live show they ever did (which granted wasn't that many). In that sense I know exactly which shows you're referring to - would loved to have heard more about the experience of seeing them in the moment. From what I've been able to glean, a lot of people didn't appreciate what they were seeing (or maybe Slint just wasn't as good live as on record?), and also not very many people can actually claim to have caught them at all.

About this reissue - I'm excited. I knew of Pam (named for Todd Brashear's mom--his dad is Glenn). It's in a similar vein as Rhoda and, from the bootlegs I've heard, it's great. I'm super excited to hear any post-Spiderland material, as I didn't know any existed outside of the song that became "King's Approach," which they played during their reunions.

I've caught a few segments of Lance Bangs' documentary and what I've seen is excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVdU_bLD2-M

oh shit

holy hell that practice footage

so stoked for this

great to hear those louisvillian voices all stacked up like that- sean garrison, david grubbs, brian mcmahan, sounds like maybe britt's dad? (and yeah, I'm honored to be a talking head here too)

practice footage looks awesome and man, they are SO young it's ridiculous

can't wait for my copy to arrive!

they were so fucking young it freaks me out!

like they are just these little kids, who plays music like that at that age??

Just bought tix to one of their shows today. Glad to have the chance to see em finally.

I kinda want to but I already saw them twice in 2004 and again in 2007

I feel like it'd ruin the magic :(

yeah i feel very similarly

I haven't been keeping up with music news much lately. I just found out about this reissue and I am really excited for this. But not at that price! Hory Shiit

Also saw them in 2004 and again in 2007.

I love Spiderland deeply, but I had no idea that these guys were all like 19 or 20 when they made it until I saw that trailer. Totally blown away by this fact.

If you are at all a fan of Slint you will adore the documentary.

That's awesome to hear, I'm really looking forward to it.

I want the album, remastered, but not for $150. Holding out for the single/maybe double disc version if they ever release one.

Stream the remastered album, plus bonus tracks.

1. Breadcrumb Trail (remaster)
2. Nosferatu Man (remaster)
3. Don, Aman (remaster)
4. Washer (remaster)
5. For Dinner (remaster)
6. Good Morning Captain remaster)

7. Nosferatu Man (basement practice)
8. Washer (basement practice)
9. Good Morning, Captain (demo)
10. Pam (rough mix, Spiderland outtake)
11. Glenn (rough mix, Spiderland outtake)
12. Todd's Song (post-Spiderland song-in-progress)
13. Brian's Song (post-Spiderland song-in-progress)
14. Cortez the Killer (live Chicago 1989)
15. Washer (four-track vocal demo)
16. Nosferatu Man (four track vocal demo)
17. Pam (four track vocal demo)
18. Good Morning, Captain (Evanston riff tape)
19. Nosferatu Man (Evanston riff tape)
20. Pam (Evanston riff tape)

what's an "evanston riff tape"?

probably riffs for spiderland recorded somewhere in evanston

that's what i figured, just wondered

Doesn't streaming a remaster sort of make the whole "remaster" part a little redundant?

brand new 96kbps remaster, overseen and approved by the band

this recording is meant to be listened to on earbuds

Britt and Brian went to Northwestern after HS/Tweez, David and Todd would come up to their place and Britt would show them the Spiderland songs and they would jam on the main riffs for hours. I believe the box set tracks are culled from those tapes.

yaaay this arrived today. packaging is great as expected.

so when can the rest of us watch the documentary?

The doc is fantastic. I've tried not to gush too much about it, but it is extremely enlightening and covers so much of such a mythical, mysterious band (and scene) without telling *too* much. It's also extremely funny which I don't think I've heard/read about in relation to any reviews of it. Highly recommended. I can't wait to finally be able see it again.

remaster is punchy as heck

if you ever thought this sounded a little thing on cd then look the fuck out

is this gonna get a single LP remaster release? love the album but not sure about dropping that much coin atm.

i believe the box is sold out now, i assume the 1-lp reissue has to be on the way

releasing this around tax refund time was brilliant on touch and go's part

are the demos and stuff awesome, i am p hyped

Tracks titled "Todd's Song," "Glenn's Song," etc do not bode well afaic, and don't help quell my fears of this being more 'cutting room floor' than 'revelation,' especially given everything else Slint did that wasn't Spiderland. Box looks fantastic though, and I will admit I am very tempted. Will probably be even more so after I see the doc tomorrow night.

Now, put out a Yank Crime box that looks like this, and I'll sell plasma to get it

Probably a mistake to judge Slint material by the names (even placeholders) of their songs as the majority of their output is the names of their parents set to music.

The post-Spiderland stuff is the most interesting to me as it helps bridge the gap between Spiderland -> Pod -> There Is Noone What Will Take Care Of You -> Safari EP -> The first two The For Carnation EPs.

The Rhoda/Glenn 10" was also released in this time span, despite being a relic from 1989 (or was it partially rerecorded?).

"Cortez" was one of the first mp3s I illegally downloaded off the internet haha.

so when can the rest of us watch the documentary?

It's on torrent sites already.

Anyone know when it will be legally available for those of us who didn't buy the box set?

Not sure where you live, but the doc is still making the rounds with Lance doing Q&A and various bandmembers joining him in select cities. I believe it's in Louisville, KY tonight followed by a performance from the band.

Albert I'm incredibly glad you posted this, because I live in Phoenix and it is literally playing here for one showing only, tonight.

so serendipitous. I'm totally stoked.

Haha, you're welcome but also just shows you how accurate I am (not at all, unless there are 2 copies floating around?)