Paul Simon's 'Graceland'

Paul Simon as six-string bass sessioneer

yesss.

Serious question - have there ever been any similar claims about songwriting around Rhythm of the Saints? He must have brought people in for that album in the same way, no? Or is there just something special about attaching villainy to Graceland's making?

TROTS, as much as I love it, sounds like he grafted Brazilian percussion onto acoustic demos, while the Graceland compositions integrate their source material and inspirations.

Did Butt Rash get credit for his contribution to 'Allergies'?

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Vincent Nguini, who collaborated with Simon om much of Rhythm of the Saints has also been in Simon's traveling band since. He gets credit on some TROTS songs but not others. But yes, neither he nor the others seem to have complained this time. The manner of recording and the usage of the sounds is arguably different.

http://www.americansongwriter.com/2011/10/interview-paul-simon-discusses-songwriter-and-songwriting/

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/04/rhymin-simon-no.html Steve Berlin of Los Lobos

Hey, btw, Paul Simon is touring with Sting.

that's the kind of shit that will get you a UN blacklist

That and giving Ban Ki-Moon a credit on 'cars are cars'

give henry ford credit imo

Ah, helpful info.

Hey, btw, Paul Simon is touring with Sting.

this is what's kinda weird to me - people here rep hard for Graceland, it seems to me - like in a "you are fronting if you don't concede it's great" way. but fuckin'...dude touring with Sting is basically perfect. they are the same kind of songwriter. I have some love for stuff by both of them, but Simon's elevation to The Guy Who Wrote This Incredible Shit level is weird to me. He's real good sometimes. That's about it. So's Sting. But I can't imagine anybody jumping down any throats if somebody said you know what Sting sucks ass

Be srs

this is what's kinda weird to me - people here rep hard for Graceland, it seems to me - like in a "you are fronting if you don't concede it's great" way. but fuckin'...dude touring with Sting is basically perfect. they are the same kind of songwriter. I have some love for stuff by both of them, but Simon's elevation to The Guy Who Wrote This Incredible Shit level is weird to me. He's real good sometimes. That's about it. So's Sting. But I can't imagine anybody jumping down any throats if somebody said you know what Sting sucks ass

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/really_house_of_cards.gif

aero throwin down the gauntlet

fwiw I hate the Police and Sting and everything they ever did so comparison to Simon is pretty odious to my ears

I'm not gonna deny they occupy the same cultural space/audience demo but who cares about that

Nah, I like Sting a lot, but he's not, in my opinion, on the same level as Simon who wrote all of S&G's (excellent) stuff and in addition to that created a respectable body of solo work. Sting wrote a lot of good stuff for the Police, but only had a nice couple of solo albums before getting stuck in AC sludge. Which is a shame, because Sting could have done some really interesting "world" music like Simon did (example: "I Burn for You"), but he...didn't.

Still, it's a show I'd think about going to see.

Sting certainly never created a Graceland, and while neither Simon & Garfunkel nor the Police tended to create great, cohesive albums, both their final efforts (Bridge Over Troubled Water & Synchronicity) come closest, but the former blows the latter away because it's not bogged down by bizarre and disjointed Garfunkel compositions, while the latter definitely suffers from "Mother".

sting is awesome, paul simon is even awesomer, i hope the keep stealing rad music until the polar ice caps melt and we all get eaten by merfolk

mother does nothing but help synchronicity

I can see why people would think that, but it's never done anything for me. Don't know why, but perhaps I'll revisit it someday.

i much prefer simon but

http://www.paul-simon.info/PHP/pictures/thumb2/755_AnnieHall.jpg
vs
http://vaginacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/GF-Needed-Remakes-Image-2.jpg

not a fierce contest

yeah, one worked w/ david lynch and the other one's palling around w/ child molesters and war criminals

war criminals

b-b-b-ut Sting invited Stewart Copeland to his palazzo!

dude touring with Sting is basically perfect. they are the same kind of songwriter.

I can't tell if this post is ironic or not, but you do know that Simon has also toured with Dylan, right?

Sting played Macheath on B'way, Simon wrote a flop B'way musical

I can't tell if this post is ironic or not, but you do know that Simon has also toured with Dylan, right?

so has My Morning Jacket

Eliding the fact that while sting has done a lot if things, he hasn't done any of them particularly well. His output is just loathsome all around.

Tantric loathsome?

capeman is an incredible album

sting toured w/ the dead

whereas these days Dylan tours as if he were dead

dylan toured w/ the dead

bruce hornsby was in the dead

lenny bruce is still dead

bela lugosi's dead

Bela Fleck jammed with Jerry.

(Of the Dead)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgd9Ijw6WI

siick

Marcello doesn't like the record:

http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/paul-simon-graceland.html

f that noise

Graceland is one of my favorite albums ever I won't listen to alternative opinions under any circumstances so there

otm

also for everyone whos been getting all cultural studies on it since the 80s um whatever yr facts are backwards

unbelievable quantities of point-missing occurring in that blog post

not so unbelievable if you've read any of the others tbh

I guess 28 years was long enough to let this album hang around without listening to it (for the longest time, I've only known You Can Call Me Al and Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes and nothing else). Everybody was right. This is great!

:D