Spotify - anyone heard of it?

Please stop using the "@" symbol to show you're addressing someone, thanks.

Yes. I'm looking forward to trawling Spotify for Julian's Treatment or whatever.

@ Captain:

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Check out all the jazz on spotify. Plenty of Blue Note RVG editions

Did anyone else get the "oops someone stole all our password hashes" email?

I can't get into the Spotify website to change my password - there's probably a rush on.

Yes got it too.

no

Dear Spotify user,

Last week we were alerted to a group that managed to compromise
our protocols. After investigating we concluded that this group
had gained access to information that could allow testing of a
very large number of passwords, possibly finding the right one.
The information was exposed due to a bug that we discovered and
fixed on December 19th, 2008. Until last week we were unaware
that anyone had had access to our protocols to exploit it.

Along with passwords, registration information such as your email
address,birth date, gender, postal code and billing receipt
details were potentially exposed. Credit card numbers are not
stored by us and were not at risk. All payment data is handled
by a secure 3rd party provider.

If you have an account that was created on or before December 19th 2008,
we strongly suggest that you change your password and strongly
encourage you to change your passwords for any other services
where you use the same password.

When choosing your password we provide you with an indicator of
the password strength to help you choose a good one. To change
your password please visit your profile page on our website.

https://www.spotify.com/en/account/profile/

For the technically minded amongst you, the information that may
have been exposed when our protocols were compromised is the
password hashes. As stated, we never store passwords, and they
have never been sent over the Internet unencrypted, but the
combination of the bug and the group's reverse-engineering of
our encrypted streaming protocol may have given outsiders access
to individual hashes.

The hashes are salted, making attacks using rainbow tables unfeasible.
Short or otherwise bad passwords could still be vulnerable to
offline targeted brute-force or dictionary attacks on individual
users, but you could not run attacks in parallel. Also, there
has been no known breach of our internal systems. A complete user
database has not been leaked, but until December 19th, 2008 it was
possible to access the password hashes of individual users had
you reverse-engineered the Spotify protocol and knew the
username.

We are really sorry about this and hope you accept our apologies.
We're doubling our efforts to keep the systems secure in order
to prevent anything like this from happening again.

Regards,
The Spotify Team

I went in and changed my password anyway

Sometimes there are benefits to being a slightly late adopter, I guess.

I would hereby like to register a hearty "fuck you" to The Script, and their corporate shill Jo Wiley.

Until they fix the Mac-client-not-scrobbling bug -- which has been discussed at length on the Get Satisfaction forums; apparently it'll be sorted in the next upgrade, whenever that'll be -- I'm not using Spotify. Missing out on the adverts cheers me slightly, at least.

oh are there no ads on the mac version? I haven't encountered any yet although I keep thinking after every song I listen to that I'm going to be hit with an ad for the new Kings of Leon album or something totally unrelated to whatever I'm listening to.

I think Grimly means he's not using it as a result of scrobbling probs, so he's not subjected to the ads.

^ Er, yes, exactly.

I'm refusing to listen to music played in shops or on builder's radios until they sort out the scrobbling problems.

A principled stand.

sorry, yeah, I just got my first ever ad (kings of leon as predicted), but it took about 20 songs for it to happen.

xxpost

Well, in fairness: "Oh, yeh, this is fixed now ... er, sorry, we can't be arsed rolling the thing out yet, though" (which is effectively what they're saying) is a bit of a cunty attitude -- especially from a company who force updates on their users whether they want them or not.

Aye they should say "Oh, yeh, this is fixed now ... er, sorry, we can't be arsed rolling the thing out yet, though, to be fair, free fucking music all day every day grimly wtf do you want for nothing eh eh?"

Pretty good bargaining tho: Give us some money or we'll keep hitting you with Script, Glasvegas and KoL adverts.

"Oh, yeh, this is fixed now ... er, sorry, we can't be arsed rolling the thing out yet, though, to be fair, free fucking music all day every day grimly wtf do you want for nothing eh eh?"

Umm. Sorry, but "it's free" != "excuse for shit customer service". Many, many services work on a similar "free" model these days (which probably won't last); when you've got 100-odd people saying, politely: "This isn't working properly, can you fix it?" and you're basically told: "Aye, it's fixed, but fuck off, you're not important enough for us to bother rolling it out" ... well, you might think that's reasonable, but I'm not so sure.

Also: if I was paying for it, I'd be in the same boat. <- Shittest argument ever, but hey :)

boycott spotify!

Do you not use it then?

i do but im getting bored of it. It's fine for well known music on major labels but if they dont expand to get more obscure stuff im gonna end up never using it.

Yeah I can see that. At the moment there's more than enough major label stuff to keep me happy though!

The huge selection of Blue Note Jazz is what's keeping me on it. Hopefully they will license stuff from some of the independent labels i like (southern lord,hydrahead etc)

Recommend some of said jazz. As you say, the dearth of alternative labels is bad, although recent additions of Domino and Warp are a step in the right direction.

wel the usual suspects of miles davis, john coltrane, sun ra, charles mingus are all up there along with Archie Shepp, Albert Ayler, Pharaoh Sanders,sonny rollins, alice coltrane, lonnie liston smith etc

plus pretty much all the Blue Note roster. Grant green, lee morgan, lou donaldson,wayne shorter , donald byrd, joe henderson, hank mobley, babyface willete to name a few.

Spotify really needs a browse by genre and artists by alphabetical order list

also browse by labels

Nice one, thanks Herman, will start digging!

i expect you to keep us up-to-date with your jazz listening on the last fm thread!

Get on Spotify and play this
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre300/e349/e349382wo3n.jpg
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jxfoxqygldde

Now!

;)

hehe neil jumps to it

"Root Down and Get It" is great, and familiar from the Beastie Boys track of the similar name.

i knew someone would say that

So predictable!

can i ask somebody to mailme an invite? ta.

Do they not play adverts during the weekend then? I played three full albums and some assorted tracks on Spotify this w/end and never once had an ad inturrupting.

xpost. I didn't think you needed an invite anymore. If you need one, I'll mail one to you.

tried quickly to get on last night, seemed to need one. appreciate it.

Mail me your address and I'll get it sorted then.

Done!

cheers.

xpost - Yes, VERY few ads over the weekend. 'Twas bliss.

New ILM Spring collabo playlist.

wtf is this zarif pish?