LOL @ jhøshea's idea of ska being solely fueled by the kids who wore JNCO pants at his high school.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
its more like 1/2 assed.
― chaki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
its my personal belief that people who know abt the different types of ska should just sit quietly in the corner until called upon
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
your beliefs are also 1/2 assed.
― chaki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
the people in my high school who were into ska wore little suits and rode around on scooters
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
did you go to school in japan?
― remy bean, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link
http://us.ent1.yimg.com/images.launch.yahoo.com/000/026/736/26736298.jpg
uuugh
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link
yes that is the type of music your precious vampire weekend play. face it, asshole!
― chaki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
lol chak
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link
wtf are you in denial or something?
A lot of indie kids are these days. They don't want to admit that some of their most fave bands over the last four, five years have much in common with jam band culture, ska, Ween, TMBG, and other frat-hippie classics.
― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link
i went to high school w/those very guys there
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't hear anything ska-ish except very vaguely on, yeah, "Ladies of Cambridge." Call it standard-lowering if you want, but I just appreciate hearing an airy indie-pop record that has as much rhythmic flexibility as they do, the way they can slide from rhythm to rhythm within a song -- like "Bryn," which starts out with 6-beat bars and then drops over into a straight 6/8. (That might be the wrong way to put it.) Which isn't, you know, rocket surgery, but it's a good habit for them to have.
Part of why I don't entirely dig the addition of "I Stand Corrected" is that it skews way further in a building 8th-note Strokes-pop direction; it's a perfectly likable song, but if they wrote like that all the time, I wouldn't be able to listen to them nearly as often.
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
nabisco you dont hear anything "ska-ish" on the song boston? you are not that dense. fwiw i kind of love Sublime.
― chaki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
listen to the song "boston" by vampire weekend. that is 3rd wave ska.
it's called "ladies of cambridge." it's not on the album.
― gabbneb, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
oh
― chaki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
they renamed it to make it doubly preppy-sounding.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
dreaming of boston is a total downer
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
i live in cambridge so fucking thanks, vampdire weakend.
And "A-Punk" is ska in a Police way.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
haha chaki u mad again
― max, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
boston is way more preppy than cambridge massachusetts which is waht theyre talking abt
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I didn't even notice the great line in Bryn until this chick pointed it out - http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2008/01/29/Music/Preppy.Sure.But.Who.Cares-3173537.shtml
― gabbneb, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
max dude DO NOT f w/chakis ska trust me
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link
P.S. QN I don't know many indie kids who would have much problem with Ween and TMBG associations -- I don't know about the really young ones, but those two are standard middle-school / high-school / college listening for plenty of indie non-kids.
Also the "four/five" years bit is weird -- the done thing in the 90s was to call out post-rock for being not THAT different from listening to jam bands or Medeski Martin & Wood or whatever, and the past four/five years have been well past the point where the indie masses turned off on all things Tortoise-like
xpost - yeah Chaki we are talking about the same song, Boston/Cambridge. You could call that kinda ska-ish, sure. I just can't remember hearing that sort of thing anywhere else on this, though -- lemme try and think over it
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link
is it funnier to call a faux mighty mighty bosstones song 'boston' or 'ladies of cambridge'?
― gabbneb, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link
def boston
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link
maybe the lyric should have been about 'the middle east'
― gabbneb, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
"A-Punk" is the only song that sounds ska to me.
― jaymc, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
good use of scare-quotes
xpost
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link
If the keyboard player were Ethiopian instead of Persian, his last name would mean SON OF BATMANG
xpost - wait, yes, I see what you guys mean -- "A-Punk" is like two-tone without the upstrokes, yes
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
max i dont think you understand my posting style at all because i am rarely mad about anything. god.
― chaki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
you come from 'cambridge', xxp
― gabbneb, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the album a lot, but when they're not using specifically W. African-y elements the clean guitar and rhythmic sensibility reminds me more directly of a lot now-forgotten ska bands I saw in Jr. High School than an indie-juju hybrid.
― C0L1N B..., Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I Stand Corrected isn't musically all that exciting, but it's a pretty buttoned-up lyric too.
― gabbneb, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link
african music /= juju
'newton'
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I think these dudes are honestly the same dorks in high school/college who still play 9th-wave-ska 10 years after the fact, but somehow they've been able brand their style Little Miss Sunshine/Wes Anderson indie lite.
― burt_stanton, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
No shit, gabbneb. The African elements remind of juju more than any other African genre I'm familiar with (I'm not trying to argue this point, just explaining) and I wanted to be more specific than "African music".
― C0L1N B..., Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
tell me there is not a 9th wave of ska
― jhøshea, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm assuming Boston/Cambridge got cut from the record for just sounding awfully lightweight -- I can't decide if it's good or bad that this means losing the funny bit at the end where he goes all Rick Moody with "a morbid streak runs through the whole of my family." It's probably for the best: that's like one of those Morrissey things where it's amusing if you like them, Stab Him Please if you don't.
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link
We should turn this thread into another classic ILX "who knows more about world music" pissing contest.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
CHAKI I DONT THINK U UNDERSTAND MY POSTING STYLE BECAUSE SHEESH
― max, Thursday, 31 January 2008 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link
xp: I'm hardly trying to start a pissing contest; I have pretty limited knowledge of "world music", it just seems like referring to African music in this context could lead to including all sorts of things that don't really have much to do with VW specifically.
― C0L1N B..., Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link
isn't world music what you listened to in the 80s after breaking in your new "cappuccino machine"?
― burt_stanton, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb56/Drakhirdrak/LOL%20Pics/STFU-Stop_Posting.jpg
― gff, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link
i duno this thread is pretty funny now. like why am i even here?
― chaki, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought they played kwassa kwassa - but maybe that would be too obvious.
― o. nate, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Dudes I think they buy random compilations and go "that's a cool rhythm, we should put that in the chorus." Not trying to dis their listening -- who knows, maybe the know the stuff front to back -- but I can't imagine them shooting to know much about any particular style, as opposed to just picking up bits of ideas
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link
what's their faces were kind of like this. that band i can't remember the name of that all the indie kids like in 2001 that made me go "uh?"
― akm, Thursday, 31 January 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
oh dismemberment plan