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― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 01:16 (eighteen years ago)
What was jaw-dropping to me was just that Starbucks would have seen enough commercial potential to be interested in doing this.
― Sundar, Sunday, 17 June 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago)
Sundar making the only sense on this thread so far.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)
I drink drip coffee only, black, a lot of it, and Starbucks is above average.
Starbucks, above average?? Are you fucking kidding me? Did you see the study in Consumer Reports magazine where they tested four different coffees from Starbucks, McDonalds, Dunkin Donuts and Burger King? It turned out McDonald's was the best(?!) and Starbucks was the WORST of the four -- and come on, they are the ONE ACTUAL COFFEE SHOP in the study!
Seriously Mr Rich@rdson, I shit you not: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2003553322_webcoffeetest02.html
― stephen, Sunday, 17 June 2007 02:52 (eighteen years ago)
it's just coffee, dude, and it looks like you should drink less of it
― river wolf, Sunday, 17 June 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)
larf
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:05 (eighteen years ago)
haha, starbucks sucks and CR is like guaranteed non-LCD reliable. what else do you get wrong?
anyway, this is awesome, in no small part because of how many people it will piss off.
― gabbneb, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)
LCD reliable?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:31 (eighteen years ago)
he means Consumer Reports sucks too
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:40 (eighteen years ago)
it's not necessarily that the fact that sonic youth are DOING it pisses me off.
a conversation: STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE A sentimentalist, pimpled. JOHNSON BRADDOCK A man with a stroller, a goatee, a brownstone.
STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: So, that was non-fat soy caramel green tea mochalatacino frappe? JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Yeah. Hey, what is this? STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: This is from Starbucks' newest CD, by Sonic Youth, called "Schizophrenia is Taking Me Home." I think this is "Catholic Block," picked by Jeff Tweedy. It's only 10 dollars with any drink purchase. JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Huh. STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: I think it's pretty good. JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Well, let me take that too then. STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: Great. (purchase is made with Gold card, and JB leaves) STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: *sighs* Kill me.
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:40 (eighteen years ago)
i mean, it's just unfathomable to me that this could actually work.
Consumer reports does suck too. What is "LCD reliable" tho.
xpost table, I'm annoyed by the fact that drunks will bring this up with me for the nest 18 months.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)
i mean, it is a nice big joke. if i were a starbucks employee and these people walked in, i'd think, "great, now we're getting acid casualties coming in"
http://blogs.walkerart.org/offcenter/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/sy.jpg
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:48 (eighteen years ago)
three acid casualties and an elf on heroin
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)
NON lowest common denominator reliable? He was making fun of dude for citing CR.
― marmotwolof, Sunday, 17 June 2007 03:51 (eighteen years ago)
Yes, that would make sense.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Sunday, 17 June 2007 04:15 (eighteen years ago)
When did Renaldo turn into Stuart Smalley?
― Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 17 June 2007 04:48 (eighteen years ago)
Sounds like I need to try that McDonald's premium coffee! But where does it say Starbucks came in last in that CP test? If Burger King's "tasted more like hot water" drink scored higher than Starbucks' "strong, but burnt and bitter," I think we have different ideas about what makes good coffee.
― Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 17 June 2007 05:01 (eighteen years ago)
"three acid casualties and an elf on heroin"
Could be the best SY album title this century!
― Soukesian, Sunday, 17 June 2007 08:45 (eighteen years ago)
thurston goldblum
― gabbneb, Sunday, 17 June 2007 08:49 (eighteen years ago)
i've always wondered if the sonic youth apologists (contorting themselves into explaining how all these commercial endeavors are, um, "punk") are the same people who think a band like the Who are hopeless corporate sellouts for doing essentially the same things.
OTM.
I'm not pissed that SY are corporate shills. I don't care, really. If Kim Gordon wants to model for companies that reportedly use sweatshop labor (cough: Calvin Klein), so be it. I just tire of how the shilling is framed as something other than it is -- that I don't "get it," if I call it commercialism. There is nothing to get. They're not art performance adbusting punks having an ironic laugh on corporate America. They are shills for corporate America plain and simple. So am I to a certain extent, but if somebody calls me out on it, I say, "You're right." I don't say, "Oh, you don't get the joke, man. I'm punking the system from the inside."
― QuantumNoise, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)
the table is the table OTM.
― 2for25, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)
STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE A sentimentalist, pimpled. JOHNSON BRADDOCK A man with a stroller, a goatee, a brownstone.
STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: So, that was non-fat soy caramel green tea mochalatacino frappe? JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Yeah. Hey, what is this? STARBUCKS EMPLOYEE: This is from Starbucks' newest CD, by Sonic Youth, called "Schizophrenia is Taking Me Home." I think this is "Catholic Block," picked by Jeff Tweedy. It's only 10 dollars with any drink purchase. JOHNSON BRADDOCK: Huh.
Why does this bother you so much? Goateed stroller dude is probably just as likely to have bought Daydream Nation when it came out as to not have heard of Sonic Youth, and my guess is you're a younger guy who wasn't old enough to be into SY at the time. Why do you have any more right to it than he does?
― Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)
speaking of pimping for $:
http://www.richardkern.com
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 17 June 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)
Table, I am sooooooooo confused as to why this thread even exists.
well, i haven't paid SY any attention since Sonic Nurse, so the fact that they'd be okay with doing something for Starbucks (right on paul mccartney's back, mind you) kind of made me go, "whuh?"
There's only been one album since Sonic Nurse. And was that album so avant-garde and/or anti-corporate (it was released on DGC after all) that their link to a(nother) corporation should be so surprising?
And while I dug your little playlet, you're assuming that Starbucks employees are forced to say they like ANY album in the store as opposed to merely pushing an album, two very different things. And for what it's worth, no Starbucks employee has ever pushed a CD on me nor ever made any comment to me about any of the music in the store.
You're also assuming that a Starbucks employee would automatically hate this CD.
Love,
Tim Horton
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)
you're misunderstanding. i have no more right to it than he does, it's just that any conversation of that sort-- whether it be about Paul McCartney or Sonic Youth-- makes my stomach churn.
That and yes, I am a younger guy, who happened to buy my first SY record when I was nine years old. Granted, that was in 1993, but still-- they were as much a band of my youth as any older dude's.
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)
And yo - a Jeff Tweedy "Catholic Block" could absolutely work.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)
KJB-- perhaps you should ask yourself why threads such as "5th Best VU Album" exist.
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)
man what a sell-out. next thing they'll be signing to a major label.
― That one guy that quit, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)
As far as I can tell, this is one of the dumbest threads ever.
― HI DERE, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)
man, table, what is the big deal? who cares? why are you getting all worked up about this?
― Mr. Que, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)
their shilling in and of itself doesn't bother me; but if pete townshend -- someone who's sold many of his songs for use in ads -- narrated a documentary on the corporatization and commodification of music, you'd think, wtf?! and yet: http://www.mediaed.org/videos/CommercialismPoliticsAndMedia/MoneyForNothing
― Lawrence the Looter, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)
Glad this thread exists, if only to remind youngsers that Sonic Youth's primary demographic these days probably is stroller pushing homeowners. I tried the goatee back in the 90's, but it didn't work out.
― dlp9001, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)
Was there a time when Sonic Youth's fanbase wasn't middle class college-track types?
― Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)
I don't feel worked up, Mr. Que. I'm not pissed off about this or anything.
I just find the corporatization of what was once anti-corporate culture-- and the willingness of anti-corporate culture to embrace corporatization-- rather interesting. I mean, what's next? A greatest hits of Magik Markers CD called "My First Ass-Fuck"?
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)
It's not anti-corporate hatred on my part as much as interest in the motives behind SY's decision and Starbucks' branding mechanism and how it will work.
― the table is the table, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)
Kim and Thurston need money for their kid's college fund. And I don't blame them.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)
once people get old enough they'll do anything for money. cuz they know they are gonna die and nothing matters. it's no big deal. old people who never sold out have no teeth left. and they are sad a lot.
― scott seward, Sunday, 17 June 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)
t's just that any conversation of that sort-- whether it be about Paul McCartney or Sonic Youth-- makes my stomach churn.
Ok, so you invented an unrealistic, unlikely conversation to churn your own stomach?
― Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)
Scott's observation is doubtless more right than we know. Perhaps slightly related to it:
...primary demographic these days probably is stroller pushing homeowners.
The more I go on in life the more I'm utterly bemused at how...conventional that demographic in general still sounds. More so, since I'm of an age where I 'should' be a stroller-pushing homeowner etc. I'm not surprised by that path at all (nobody should be unless they're from planet Tharg or something), it's more I like I'm observing something through a window.
Anyway, back to music.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 June 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)
Not only is that their primary demographic, but most of *the kids* probably couldn't care less about them.
― Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)
As far as the commercial potential - I'd take the SY-headlined, cancelled Lollapalooza as a barometer, i.e. it'll probably do fine in coastal cities, college towns, Chicago, etc. and fail in middle America. Of course if Starbucks is smart, which they are, they're probably not pushing this in all stores.
― Hurting 2, Sunday, 17 June 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)
Do you come with Cliff Notes, Table?
Someone not from Planet Tharg
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)
It should be no surprise to anyone but the delusional kids on this thread that financial security = good thing.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)
Ned, what do you mean by "conventional"? If you mean, they do what "the average" American does, well, that's not surprising, since most people in America are average Americans, and so most "stroller pushing homeowners" are average Americans.
Or do you mean something besides that?
― Euler, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)
Sometimes a tie is just a tie.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)
And sometimes it's purple.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)
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― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)
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― Euler, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)
They're not "shilling" for anything. They're not going on TV and telling you to go to Starbucks. When you're in the music business, you go around and play shows and make recordings and people offer you money for those things and you take the money.
― Tim Ellison, Sunday, 17 June 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)
um, they did. It's the last track on the CD.
― Mackro Mackro, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
oh yeah.
My only objection is that the CDs Starbucks sell aren't exactly 'discount', even though they look cheap.
― Mark G, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:22 (eighteen years ago)
HI I AM CORPORATE DRONE I NEBER HERD OF SONIC YOUTH WATS DAT IS IT CLASSIC GENIUS LIKE RAY CHARLES OOH PRETTY PICSHURE
cracked me up
I am excited to buy this. At the Starbucks I stopped at tonight for a delicious iced latte, they had a Doors greatest hits CD and a James Brown greatest hits CD for sale by the register.
― Savannah Smiles, Friday, 23 May 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)