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yes, but growing up in SE PA, these guys were so dudly they willed themselves classic. they wouldn't stop touring the area! and the mythology surrounding them was ridiculous. every roommate i had in college would tell me something about this band (they useta be skinheads/nazis, you know) - one d00d went so far as to hang a picture of them promoting whatever tour it was in '97 in our room!
VISIT ONE CHAMELEON CLUB.

-- blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.lif...), March 15th, 2005.

haha, yeah, everyone I know who's from a certain part of Pennsylvania seems to have a "we saw Live when they were just getting started" story.

I think the sequence of Throwing Copper singles/videos was:

Selling The Drama -> I Alone -> Lightning Crashes -> White, Discussion

with All Over You somewhere in there as a big radio hit with no video. White, Discussion was the one that I thought was tolerable, at least at first.

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

careers like Live's (and Third Eye Blind's, and Hootie & The Blowfish) kind of mystify me, because they have like 4 or 5 big singles off one album, and then can't get a hit as big as any of those after that one album. so they're not really one-hit wonders, but it's like their fame lasts for exactly one album cycle.

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah al - i agree, but strangely the marketing for secret samadhi presented them as though they were the new number one band in the world! i recall turning down invitations to see them - i simply didn't get it, even with the local connection (imaginary, you betcha): i thought they were like dave matthews band.

in fact, it's hard to imagine them having been that famous now. also: alanis morrissette to thread (re many hit singles, and then poof!)

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

it seems naive or short-sighted to imply that it was an especially mid-90's phenomenon, but it really seems like it was, doesn't it?

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's a 70s & 80s phenomenon, too (though probably more 80s than 70s) (and more new-wave than anything else I can recall) (though maybe some R&B acts fall into this ditch, too).

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't get it twisted, Bill - it was ROCK RADIO'S FASCINATION W/ GRUNGE'S MESSIAH COMPLEX IN TOTO that paved the way for Creed.

SEE ONE RATTLE & HUM

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

WATCH THE OMEGA etc

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

RAISE ONE LED ZEPPELIN

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Led Zeppelin did arena, but they didn't do 'spirituality'

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd venture to say that the line between "arena" and "spirituality" is angel-hair thin.

CALL ONE WHO ROCK OPERA.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah but Zep practically invented "middle eastern-tinged hard rock"

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

> 4 or 5 big singles off one album, and then can't get a hit as big as any of those after that one album

Bush to thread, better that the rest, green to red, Bush to thread.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"middle eastern-tinged hard rock"

oh I'm not pretending this song could exist in a "Kashmir"-free world

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Bush to thread, better that the rest, green to red, Bush to thread.

"Greedy Fly" and "Swallowed" off Razorblade Suitcase were both pretty big in my high school, tho. And I remember seeing a video for the "Mouth" remix on MTV.

― marc h., Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think "Machine Head" & "Everything Zen" (& "Glycerine"!!!!) (on the Tonight Show!!!!) lapped those Albini-abetted bad boys from Razorblade Suitcase. And the remix from the Julia Delpy werewolf flick.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, but growing up in SE PA, these guys were so dudly they willed themselves classic. they wouldn't stop touring the area! and the mythology surrounding them was ridiculous.

so what yer saying, then, is that live were THE HOOTERS of the 90s?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

oh dear god - i had a hand-me-down hooters tee shirt. i wish i knew what happened to it (i'd be so sad if i lost it) - and my mom went to high school with john oates (north penn represent).

Live were like having a local, Orwellian Dave Matthews Band - omnipresent and always dudly.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"Swallowed" has aged surprisingly well. I still prefer Sixteen Stone to Nevermind (except for Polly), I guess I was two years too young for Nirvana to really hit me (but was just right for the pretenders to the throne).

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread has become...cumbersome.

― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't get it twisted, Bill - it was ROCK RADIO'S FASCINATION W/ GRUNGE'S MESSIAH COMPLEX IN TOTO that paved the way for Creed.

I agree. And if it wasn't for DMX there'd be no Ja Rule, but I still enjoy "Get At Me Dog".

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 05:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Beavis & Butt-head watching "I Alone" was pretty classic, where they're talking about how the drummer forgot to bring his sticks so he has to just run around like a jackass through the whole video.

― daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"I thought they were in the van, heh, heh."

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually he had the sticks, but no drums, so he kind of air drummed with the sticks, I think.

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

he did!!! and the singer was bald with the one long braid in the back!

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually he had the sticks, but no drums, so he kind of air drummed with the sticks, I think.

Are you sure you aren't thinking of INXS?

― Jeff Reguilon (Talent Explosion), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

He's thinking of Journey.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually he had the sticks, but no drums, so he kind of air drummed with the sticks, I think.

actually he had NOTHING. he just hopped around like a jackass in slo-mo mouthing along with the chorus. supposedly thought the video was really heavy and improved by seeing their reserved drummer go apeshit but Live has to rationalize a lot of idiocy to keep from blowing their heads off. Me and my sister used to count the amount of times Ed K. touches his head in that video. He clearly wasn't used to the bald pate.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The hair growing back was UPSETTING him! He was trying to keep the hairs DOWN!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Or he was stoned. My once clean-shaven pate was palmed by some stoned chicks in college. It was grooovy. Then I went back to reading High Society. Well, skimming, really. Almost sorta like ogling.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

the video was directed by Tim Pope.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a brief part involving candles and a tree.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Was the tree on fire?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it was plastic

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

That doesn't answer my question!

"Is it raining outside?" "No, I had spaghetti."

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

no it was just the guys holding candles around the tree. there was no flaming tree. it was just a tree.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm surprised no one has mentioned "the dam at otter creek" yet ... that used to be one of my favorite live tunes.

― rajeev (rajeev), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

is that where all the water backed up?

DEEEEEP ENOUGH TO DIIIIIIVE!

― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

indeed. all that's left to do is to reflect on what's been done.

so profound!

― rajeev (rajeev), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i am so guilty.

― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

White, Discussion was the one that I thought was tolerable, at least at first.

Indeed.

― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I still like "T.B.D." or whatever it was called. And I sort of still like "Operation Spirit."

And I still think they were an odd choice for that 120 Minutes tour with PIL, BAD II and Blind Melon. One of the weirdest packages tours ever, I think.

― billstevejim, Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

lol.
growing up in SC PA held enough Live as well as SE.
i managed to "see them" 3 times without really ever thinking about it, always played with other local acts i was there to see...

thankfully, little, if any, stuck.

but...i knowed fellers...!

― edde, Thursday, 17 March 2005 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG this thread has me weeping with laughter.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 March 2005 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Turns out I might have been wrong about this song.

Or at least that opening riff. It's awesome. The rest is still kinda dreadful. But wonderful? I dunno, it's terribly confusing.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:32 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

BURN MY EYYYYYYYYES

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)

This song is a stone-cold bonafide 100% classic in every possible sense of the word "classic".

-- The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, March 14, 2005 8:28 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link
everyone in high school called this album Secret Sodomy

-- miccio (miccio), Monday, March 14, 2005 8:32 PM (3 years ago)

Two best consecutive comments ever.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

Best Live song, hands down

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

i just almost c&p'd the Secret Sodomy post 5 minutes ago

― some dude, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

Classic for sure. My favorite Live single and it sort of sounds like Helmet ~~if they were dynamic and not boring.~~
-- herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Monday, March 14, 2005 3:53 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)

I like that bit in "Lightning Crashes" where he's like "the angel opens her ahehyeeaheeeyehyaheyes"!

-- nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, March 14, 2005 4:05 PM

― am0n, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 17:22 (seventeen years ago)

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damn wish id thought of that one lol

― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Friday, 24 February 2023 19:28 (three years ago)

lmao

― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 24 February 2023 22:10 (three years ago)

eleven months pass...

Secret Samadhi by Live: its bathetic and grotesque lyrics

― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 3 February 2024 16:20 (two years ago)

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