Kate Bush: Klassik or Dudd

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i don't have any problems with her. bjork on the other hand...

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 4 October 2002 09:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Any liking of Kate Bush was hopelessly marred by my sister. She would play her stuff very loudly on her really ropey record player and through the wall into my bedroom, all I would hear was the treble and the bass, absolutely no middle whatsoever. It sounded awful, like a choking banshee in lead boots and I haven't been able to listen to her since.

Alfie (Alfie), Friday, 4 October 2002 09:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
Revived because I want to see what Tom thinks of The Dreaming

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 7 November 2002 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was so pleased when he put "Suspended in Gaffa" on his top ten the other day: "There Goes a Tenner" can't be far behind.

(My very-personal thing about The Dreaming: I simply cannot listen to it without strongly associating it with the abridged and illustrated version of Oliver Twist I read over and over as a child. This wouldn't be significant except that The Dreaming is the only Kate Bush record I do that with; I think it's the theft aspect of "There Goes a Tenner.")

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 7 November 2002 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I want to see what Tom thinks of The Dreaming
like all right-thinking people, he thinks it's the second greatest LP ever made obv ;-)

Jeff W, Thursday, 7 November 2002 17:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

five months pass...
Revived because I want to see what Tom thinks of The Dreaming.

And I am listening to my first ever Kate Bush (sure, she's been on in the background and parties but that's not the same) - 'Running Up That Hill' is brilliant. Every time she starts into the chorus my forearms just jelly up ("if I only could make a deal with God") - the weird-strange pronunciation of God, giving it more portent than it should, reminding me of Sophie Ellis Bextor, and all the while the drums rumbling away underneath, carrying her along. I'm about to go and put on the Hounds of Love.

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic. I only have The Whole Story but I enjoy most of what's on that. I get "Wuthering Heights" stuck in my head a lot. It's better than the book.

Where should I (and if you know my tastes, bear those in mind), go next to find more Kate Bush stuff? I like the more pop song deals than the more freakish stuff like that song "The Dreaming" (if I'm thinking of the right song).

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic. "Cloudbusting" makes me weak-kneed.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Did I say this upthread? Go with her debut, "The Kick Inside". My favorite, and the least freakish (my favorite AND the least freakish??).

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic definitely.

I hope she will soon escape from the spaceship which has kidnapped here and taken her to outer space, and return to Mother Earth to start working on some new music.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

At least she got to go to outer space though, I'm betting she's having a good time.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 20:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

The sound of the drums on Dreaming is starting to really bother me, so that the album is now largely ruined for me. I think it's some curse of 80's production.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

The.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Absolutely utterly no question - classic all the way.
Even The Red Shoes, which even diehards agree is her career lowpoint, included some superb tracks (Song of Solomon, And so is Love, Lily).
And Sensual World, though ropey in parts, is a gorgeous record.... it positively glows.
Essential purchases: Hounds of Love, The Dreaming, Lionheart, Kick Inside, Never for ever (ok, all of them, then, bar the obligatory Greatest Hits, Whole Story - you don't appreciate Kate Bush from a Best of).....

The new album's in the can, too, apparently.

russ t, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

The new album's in the can, too, apparently.

-- russ t (russ.thoma...), April 9th, 2003.

STOP THE PRESSES!

dave q, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, definite, definite classic. Absolutely.

When I want to get weepy-eyed, I play Kate Bush. "This Woman's Work" is a heartbreaking song, as is "Cloudbursting" ("we're cloudbursting, daddy" *sob* *sob*) and "Running Up That Hill". I think some of her material is a bit quirky, but all of it is flavored with a tiny bit of melancholy (or sensitivity) that make the songs absolutely lovely in a "reach your heart with a feather light touch that manages to shatter it in thousands of tiny pieces" sort of way.

*sighs* Once again, classic.

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

And Sensual World, though ropey in parts, is a gorgeous record.... it positively glows.
"The Sensual World" is painfully underrated. I'd even go so far as to espouse the blasphemous notion that "The Sensual World" is a better rekkid than either "The Dreaming" or "Hounds of Love"!
Who's with me on this one?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

i completely and utterly love Kate Bush's music. I'm still sort of in the explorative stages, only really checking her out about a year ago. I own all the albums, though I haven't listened to The Sensual World yet, because I still feel I need to play The Red Shoes more first. I have heard "The Fog" from it though, which is wonderful.
The Red Shoes strikes me as dreadfully uneven, as there's some 90s commercialpop factors that really don't do it for me.

At the moment The Dreaming stands as my absolute big favorite, in fact, completely and utterly coincidentally, I'm listening to it right now! Wooh!

She manages to bring together quirkiness, pure pop niftyness and, ah, yeah, I guess that's it. I wish one of these so-called "Kate Bush wannabes" would be remotely near as good. Tori Amos' Little Earthquakes was good for a few listens, but it faltered under closer scrutiny. Some of these later girls, who seem to in turn be influenced by Amos, just plain suck. Damn them all!

Even if she does a mediocre album, I'd LOVE to see Kate Bush return to music. Hopefully the rumours of a new album are true this time. And hopefully frigging Nelly or whoever won't be guesting! Her voice still sounds pretty good, judging by the crap-quality MP3 I have of her guest spot on some Gilmour show last year.

Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cozen - NYLPM alert!!!

(also new FT articles shockah)

zebedee, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm on it, zebedee. Though he's being difficult about what he's actually saying about Kate, but I'm a fine one to complain.

Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

dave q- once more your pitiful attempts at sarcasm make you look like a complete prick - stop the presses? Err... the album has apparently JUST been finished - in the last 4 weeks - so yeah, you could say that it's pretty 'new' news, so why the dullard sarcy comment? Thank you.

Tori Amos - if I were Kate, I'd sue. Hideous woman.

russ t, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah dave - 'all you need is just a little patience!'

axl rose, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

don't know how that woman manages that pace...zzzzzzz...

kevin shields, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've said it before, I'll say it again: the Kate Bush - Tori Amos link is largely a red herring. If anything Tori is a combination of early Sinead O'Connor and Stevie Nicks.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 10 April 2003 00:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

err...Tom..... maybe you should listen first to The Kick Inside, then to Little Earthquakes. Amos even copied the bloody cover?! I rest my case.
Ack - Tori Amos. Vile.

russ t, Thursday, 10 April 2003 09:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight months pass...
I cherish the Organon Mix of Cloud Busting (sampled in Utah Saints "Something Good", enjoyed that video with Donald Suteherland) and as above 2nd side of Hounds of Love, also Army Dreamers and Wow. Classic, Classy

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 4 January 2004 12:15 (twenty years ago) link

Kate Bush, Dionysian font of unbridled creativity. I recently acquired her album "The Dreaming", and it is both accessible and extreme, also endlessly rewarding to listen to. "The Kick Inside" is the best.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 4 January 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
i got 'the dreaming' the other day! notes: in suspended in gaffa i think she sings "nutella i'm ready for you"

zemko (bob), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:11 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, Kate Bush is so amazing. Most of what I think about her has been said by Tim already, though I think the comedic nature of her madder moments ("Waking The Witch", "Get Out Of My House") needs to be touched on. Pop music as simultaneously high art and accessible singalong melody.

I wonder if this thread revival will finally see Tom's opinions on The Dreaming...

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:46 (twenty years ago) link

Me LIKE LOT!!!!!

Russell Dixon (Skinny), Saturday, 7 February 2004 10:29 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. 12" version of Cloudbusting - uber classic.

mentalist (mentalist), Saturday, 7 February 2004 10:45 (twenty years ago) link

Classic, though not consistently excellent and sometimes even terrible (I agree with the general opinion that The Sensual World and The Red Shoes are mostly bad, especially for HER standards), imo. But when she did hit the nail on the head, she made some of the most envelope-pushing and hysterically beautiful pop music I've ever heard. This is especially present in her albums "The Dreaming" and "Hounds of Love."

Some of my favorites are "Breathing," "Night of the Swallow," "Suspended in Gaffa," "Houdini," "Get out of my House," "Sat on my Lap," "Cloudbusting"... ah, I could go on and on.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Saturday, 7 February 2004 20:58 (twenty years ago) link

Sensual World mostly bad?? Cra-zee... It's up there with Hounds of Love in my book.

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Sunday, 8 February 2004 10:13 (twenty years ago) link

I still find Kick Inside and Lionheart (not heard Never For Ever) harder going than any of the stuff from Dreaming on.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 8 February 2004 11:06 (twenty years ago) link

Wow is a great piece of invention, from Lionheart

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 8 February 2004 11:31 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah I love the singles and some of the other tracks, just as a whole those records seem a bit...drippier somehow.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 8 February 2004 12:35 (twenty years ago) link

"The Kick Inside" is a top album with its progtastic sounds. I think "Lionheart" is meant to be her rubbish second album.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 8 February 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

but lionheart has "hammer horror!"

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago) link

And the Peter Pan song! But I rarely listen to her first two records actually.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 9 February 2004 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I finally got the Sensual World on CD and it kicks my ass as much as it did way back then. Sure, I wouldn't miss the Gilmour wankfests but apart from that it's probably got her best set of songs. 'Between a Man and a Woman' and 'Never be Mine' are mind-boggingly overlooked, jeez...

Also, what's the usual interpretation of 'Woman's Work'? I can't decide if's about giving birth or being by the death bed of a loved one.

Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

giving birth, apparently..

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 11:16 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
I'm listening to The Dreaming right now and it justs sounds AMAZING. I haven't played it in years and I'd forgotten how cool it is. Every stoner should have a copy of The Dreaming.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

"And Dream of Sheep" makes me think about the first time I heard it: driving out of Austin after 5 years with the same girl and it was over. It will always be that song for me, me wishing things had turned out differently and that I wasn't leaving her behind.

On a lighter note, I like the secret military one on The Whole Story a lot, too. Also, is that remastered EMI anniversary edition of Hounds of Love actually better sounding than the regular issue of it? I always thought it sounded a little thin...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link

How did I miss thread and all its revivals? Everything she's ever done has been fantastic obv, but my faves are the whole of The Kick Inside (special mention to Oh To Be In Love and Them Heavy People), the first half of Lionheart and the whole of Hounds. I think the 12" mix of The Big Sky is something of a pinnacle of modern civilisation.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 1 July 2004 08:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah that mix reminds me of the Armageddon (I think?? The One on the Fuse Presents Hell mix) remix of "Two Tribes" - gloriously overblown.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Fairlight heaven!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Hurr, I've spent the last three days listening to 'The Dreaming' constantly. 'Suspended in Gaffa' is the most amazing anything ever. I need to dig up the animated gif of my friend headbanging to 'Wuthering Heights'.

Ade (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link

This is the post where aldo asks for gifs to be turned back on so he can see this.

Anyway, Kate so far beyond Klassik this is a redundant question.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 1 July 2004 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Kate Bush is totally classic. I like that ridiculously winsome quality of her early records. The songs make me want to run through fields of dandelions under a golden sky... or some bullshit. I also have a pathetic crush on her. Since most of my girlfriends are somewhere closer to Lydia Lunch or Siousxie Sioux, I find Bush's giddy whimsical nonsense/thoughtful lyrical ballads really appealing. Her persona is flowery and warmly eccentric, and her music swells with personality.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 1 July 2004 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, have you heard Angra's hair-metal cover of "Wuthering Heights"? I don't know what more to say. It's something else.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 1 July 2004 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

But what the fuck do YOU think of the lass?

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

The accuracy

In honour of the fact that there is now one week left until the Oscars, here is Kate Bush as each of the ten Best Picture nominees. 🧵

— 𝕋𝕠𝕞𝕒𝕤 (@cinema_gay) March 5, 2023

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 March 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

Rest In Peace Del Palmer.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 8 January 2024 18:33 (four months ago) link


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