this is perfectly standard practice, every promoter in the world has to do this where band members live in different cities/countries
only if the band has enough draw to cover the costs. it isn't really standard practice for promoters to buy plane tickets. promoters make offers to artists through booking agents who relay the offer to the artist and offer their opinion on a) whether it's a good offer and b) whether they feel like the promoter will offer more to cover travel costs. if an artist had four sidemen flying from four different countries to NY and all those costs needed to be covered in addition to a guarantee he'd need to be able to fill a pretty big room for it to be worth the promoter's while.
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 18 January 2014 04:32 (ten years ago) link
Just seems kind of depressing that not a single booker in New York can put together a Current 93 show that won't lost money? Hopefully a museum or foundation will step up and make it happen.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link
I saw them play at a synagogue in NYC in the late 90s... It's got to be possible to do something similar again. Place was packed.
― barranca jagger (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link
England's Hidden Reverse is finally being re-published, for the benefit of those who believe that David Keenan "refuses" to put it out in paperback:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1907222170
― goth colouring book (anagram), Friday, 20 June 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link
lol, thanks for the heads up, about fucking time
― polyamanita (sleeve), Friday, 20 June 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link
Someone who loves me please buy me that for my birthday, kthx.
― shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
it's really good except for when Keenan tells us which records he thinks are the best ones
(I finally read a pdf, but will buy this for sure)
― polyamanita (sleeve), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
England's Hidden Reverse: A Secret History of the Esoteric UndergroundNov 20, 2014by David KeenanCurrently unavailable
― parakeetal pancreasface (sleeve), Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
sell all you have, give it to the kittens
― ciderpress, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
PDF all you have, email it to the kittens
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
So, EHR may finally be reappearing:
http://strangeattractor.co.uk/further/englands-hidden-reverse/
― anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Monday, 27 July 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link
I just got a note from a courier that Mark Pilkington has sent me a package - can't think what it would be if not the hardback of the reprint.
― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2016 13:11 (eight years ago) link
tt has been getting me into this lot
it's incredible music. lucifer over london stopped my life for 8 minutes
― imago, Monday, 1 August 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
Most important new obsession of my entire 30s, in hindsight
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 1 August 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link
That's interesting, for me too. In my 20s I dipped into the waters a couple of times but didn't get much out of it but the whole Coil-NWW-DIJ-C93 axis fully clicked with me in my mid-30s.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link
partial to the Rotting Christ cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoOCKBLN21Y
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link
I'm in my 30s now and I've never really connected with that branch though I've always been deeply into related stuff. My time might be soon...
― circa1916, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 03:16 (seven years ago) link
The Rotting Christ cover skips the 'sick of 666' part, of course.
― no-nonsense, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 06:52 (seven years ago) link
Avoid the recent vinyl reissue of Thunder Perfect Mind, it sounds fucking terrible.
I thought it might just because I needed a new needle, but I've bought one, and it still sounds like shit.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2018 18:54 (five years ago) link
^ this was the purple vinyl one, apparently they've repressed it again in black and that one is meant to be an improvement
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
Got the black one, sounds good to my ears
― Mule, Thursday, 5 July 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
long after tt's raptures i've come to Of Ruine... at last
it is Vision and Light
― imago, Sunday, 5 August 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link
Might still be my favorite c93 album
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 5 August 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link
it's perfect
and i can't think of a better-sequenced album, it just keeps twisting indirect routes to new and more intense heights, culminating in 'dormition and dominion' which is the high-point of all music
the sound-art elements are incorporated SO well into the folk, it's such an incredible synthesis. everything feels right
― imago, Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:00 (five years ago) link
I love it, but it's hard for me to pick a favorite Current 93 album - Thunder Perfect Mind, Of Ruine or Some Blazing Starre, The Inmost Light Trilogy (The Long Shadow Falls EP / All the Pretty Horses LP / The Starres Are Marching Sadly Home EP), Faust, and Sleep Has His House are all great I think
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
you've got me wanting to go back to this one in particular again!
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link
TPM is great but it's an album even I would describe as maybe slightly overlong (although its longest tracks are its best)
OROSBS is...perfect, as I say
― imago, Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:06 (five years ago) link
black ships ate the sky is my favorite one lyrically still. probably favorite overall tbh
― ciderpress, Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
that's pretty great too
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link
I love the sound of Michael Cashmore's guitar
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link
the whole baroque renaissance faire thing
― Dan S, Monday, 6 August 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link
Yeah « Of Ruine... » clearly his best. Always felt it was somewhat overlooked in C93 circles (where TPM is generally considered the undisputed classic)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 6 August 2018 09:00 (five years ago) link
I’m probably most partial to Sleep Has His House and some of the EP’s (Special Plan, Lucifer Over London). I’ve never really given the live albums much time tho, is it worth diving in?
― Siegbran, Monday, 6 August 2018 09:15 (five years ago) link
Keenan goes on and on in England's Hidden Reverse abt how Ruine is the peak, fwiw
In Menstrual Night is still my favorite, I think, I prefer the longer abstract pieces. love Where The Long Shadow Falls as well.
― sleeve, Monday, 6 August 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link
All the Pretty Little Horses is my favorite, but Of Ruine and TPM are tied for second. I do agree that Black Ships is really good and underrated.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 August 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
Xpost Halo is a very very good live album from the period just before Black Ships. Honeysuckle Aeons is my favorite of the newer ones. Otm about the EPs. The singles comp could vie for beat C93 purchase.
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 6 August 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
Beat = best
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 6 August 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
The new album with Zu is a bit of a letdown, as a fan of both.
― Siegbran, Monday, 6 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
Haven’t heard that yet
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 6 August 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
I liked it well enough, but it wasn’t strong as either band’s previous release, nor was there enough wild sax in there.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 6 August 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
Steven and I in the Field of Stars and Dormition and Dominion are my very favourites of Of Ruine.
Definitely going to try and see them in London this October. We saw Tibet as Hypnopazuzu, but feel C93 proper will be a treat.
― tangenttangent, Monday, 6 August 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
only listened to the Zu93 album once so far, but really enjoyed it
― Dan S, Monday, 6 August 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
I really really really want to see them live at some damn point.
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 6 August 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
Saw them in stockholm in april. Amazing.
― Mule, Monday, 6 August 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
Liking this new single (although it'll surely sound better on a cold winter evening)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjs0TRG9p68&frags=pl%2Cwn
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 23 August 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link
the new album gets off to a terrifyingly good start
― imago, Saturday, 13 October 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link
Playing in London right about now.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Saturday, 13 October 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link
yeah we chickened out when we saw the ticket prices. celebrating crowleymas at home instead, with some cantillon
this album is absolutely incredible
― imago, Saturday, 13 October 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link
Yeah, was gonna post. Back to the Ruine medievo-folk sound. Sounds amazing
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 13 October 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
we are debating if it's the best one after ruine, it might be. nb we have heard less than half of them. but still
― imago, Saturday, 13 October 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link