and guess what's up next....
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:12 (ten years ago) link
at this rate and what is included ..
umm ..
arcade fire ?
― mark e, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link
If it's something Hufnagel-related, I'm guessing it's my #1.
― Devilock, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
aw man I hope not, too low
― a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:19 (ten years ago) link
will give vaura 1 more go
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link
11 Kylesa - Ultraviolet, 637 Points, 18 Votes, One #1http://i.imgur.com/6Pf0k6O.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0Ulp47DaF34CcuiNXVUKx6spotify:album:0Ulp47DaF34CcuiNXVUKx6http://www.deezer.com/album/6369672
#22 Decibel, #28 Rock-A-Rolla, #15 Obelisk readers, #37 Captain Beyond Zen, #8 Stoner HiVe, #328 Pazz & Jop
http://seasonofmistcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/ultravioletcoverkillernation review - http://youtu.be/KhKT43JT67g
Kylesa have always been a moving target. Since their inception, the Savannah, Ga., group has translated instability into energy, outlasting membership changes and tragedies to create strange and compelling stylistic welds. During the last decade, they’ve shouldered themselves nominally somewhere between sludge metal and psychedelic rock, but those terms are simply outsider touchstones for Kylesa’s brilliant internal turbidity. Indeed, their music is a mix of hardcore force and pop approachability, narcotic textures and double-drummer thunder. They are less defined by any one of those elements than the way they treat them as critical components within a grand crucible, parts meant to be steadily whisked into an alchemic whole. To wit, when Brooklyn Vegan asked frontman Phillip Cope to list his favorite songs of the year in 2010, he named the usual suspects and stylistic peers (Torche, High on Fire) alongside dream-state indie rock (Beach House), insurgent post-punk garage rock (Abe Vigoda), and bands that, like Kylesa, still get dubbed metal because of heavy pedigrees and references (Alcest). This variety has long served Kylesa well, too, pushing them toward wider acceptance even as they’ve redoubled their strange syntheses.After a string of LPs that have consistently found Kylesa fortifying these wayward genre aggregations, Ultraviolet-- their sixth album and second for Season of Mist-- is an unexpected misstep. At first, Ultraviolet might feel passive or polite, as though Kylesa is the metal band auditioning for a roster spot on Sub Pop or Merge. There’s a slow-burning ballad, a straightforward charge or two, and at least one tune that stretches shoegaze reverie over quickly flickering riffs. It’s as if they’ve tempered their approach, eliminating the exciting outliers of their toolkit to arrive at a hard rock album that sounds standard enough to be safe. Past Kylesa albums have felt alternately like bulldozers and magnets; Ultraviolet often feels only like another middling record.But the problem is that Kylesa have actually let their genre pillaging overtake their actual songcraft-- that is, in trying to give the psychedelic, shoegaze and jam band aspects of their sound more room within the spotlight, they’ve created a mess that sometimes seems rudderless. The first three tracks, for instance, feel like a non-navigable maze with no steady vectors or outlined intentions: Opener “Exhale” shortchanges a great hook from Laura Pleasants with verses that don’t support the same weight and an instrumental breakdown that simply stalls the song. “Unspoken” hides behind an unnecessary 80-second introduction and subsequently plunges into an unremarkable and overly long solo, with Cope dancing around the impressive groove as though he’s ashamed of its simplicity. And during “Grounded”, Cope drowns many of his own vocals in effects, hiding them behind the wallop like coded messages. Likewise, Pleasants harmonizes the chorus with herself, singing in a round that distracts from the song’s sizzling riff. Time and again, from start to finish, Ultraviolet pauses to concede to such extraneous effects and rockpiled elements, as if Kylesa have finally made the mistake of brandishing their eccentricity rather than simply thriving on it. Ultraviolet rarely feels singular or confident; it’s the sound of a band attempting to underline its claims to distinction.But when Kylesa allows those extrinsic factors to emphasize their momentum rather than detract from it, they are unstoppable: “We’re Taking This”, for instance, is a monstrous flogging, with guitars that twist like rusty corkscrews, drums that push ahead like a cavalcade, and a refrain that feels like a battle cry. Thing is, all of Kylesa’s itinerant weirdness is here, too-- guitars that suddenly warp out of time, drums that pull back enough to give the textures space, and backmasked harmonies that swirl around Cope’s lead like vapor trails. The same holds for the two-minute bruiser “What Does it Take”, which gallops from the gates and doesn’t pull up until the next song begins. But Kylesa shoehorns a kaleidoscopic guitar solo into the tune and saturate the space between the drums and the vocals with guitar effects, not a central riff. “Low Tide,” the album’s best surprise, is a drifting, magnetic ballad; overactive bass, distant harmonies, and streaks of soft guitar noise create an impressionistic web for its starry-eyed hook. In all three instances, Kylesa’s disparate strains work together to create the same inexorable sense of euphoria that unites most of the band’s influences, if no longer their entire catalog. Kylesa albums once seemed cut instantly from whole cloth. Despite its highs, Ultraviolet is a patchwork of arduousness, with some seams still showing. - Brandon Stusoy, Pitchfork, http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18057-kylesa-ultraviolet/
After a string of LPs that have consistently found Kylesa fortifying these wayward genre aggregations, Ultraviolet-- their sixth album and second for Season of Mist-- is an unexpected misstep. At first, Ultraviolet might feel passive or polite, as though Kylesa is the metal band auditioning for a roster spot on Sub Pop or Merge. There’s a slow-burning ballad, a straightforward charge or two, and at least one tune that stretches shoegaze reverie over quickly flickering riffs. It’s as if they’ve tempered their approach, eliminating the exciting outliers of their toolkit to arrive at a hard rock album that sounds standard enough to be safe. Past Kylesa albums have felt alternately like bulldozers and magnets; Ultraviolet often feels only like another middling record.
But the problem is that Kylesa have actually let their genre pillaging overtake their actual songcraft-- that is, in trying to give the psychedelic, shoegaze and jam band aspects of their sound more room within the spotlight, they’ve created a mess that sometimes seems rudderless. The first three tracks, for instance, feel like a non-navigable maze with no steady vectors or outlined intentions: Opener “Exhale” shortchanges a great hook from Laura Pleasants with verses that don’t support the same weight and an instrumental breakdown that simply stalls the song. “Unspoken” hides behind an unnecessary 80-second introduction and subsequently plunges into an unremarkable and overly long solo, with Cope dancing around the impressive groove as though he’s ashamed of its simplicity. And during “Grounded”, Cope drowns many of his own vocals in effects, hiding them behind the wallop like coded messages. Likewise, Pleasants harmonizes the chorus with herself, singing in a round that distracts from the song’s sizzling riff. Time and again, from start to finish, Ultraviolet pauses to concede to such extraneous effects and rockpiled elements, as if Kylesa have finally made the mistake of brandishing their eccentricity rather than simply thriving on it. Ultraviolet rarely feels singular or confident; it’s the sound of a band attempting to underline its claims to distinction.But when Kylesa allows those extrinsic factors to emphasize their momentum rather than detract from it, they are unstoppable: “We’re Taking This”, for instance, is a monstrous flogging, with guitars that twist like rusty corkscrews, drums that push ahead like a cavalcade, and a refrain that feels like a battle cry. Thing is, all of Kylesa’s itinerant weirdness is here, too-- guitars that suddenly warp out of time, drums that pull back enough to give the textures space, and backmasked harmonies that swirl around Cope’s lead like vapor trails. The same holds for the two-minute bruiser “What Does it Take”, which gallops from the gates and doesn’t pull up until the next song begins. But Kylesa shoehorns a kaleidoscopic guitar solo into the tune and saturate the space between the drums and the vocals with guitar effects, not a central riff. “Low Tide,” the album’s best surprise, is a drifting, magnetic ballad; overactive bass, distant harmonies, and streaks of soft guitar noise create an impressionistic web for its starry-eyed hook. In all three instances, Kylesa’s disparate strains work together to create the same inexorable sense of euphoria that unites most of the band’s influences, if no longer their entire catalog. Kylesa albums once seemed cut instantly from whole cloth. Despite its highs, Ultraviolet is a patchwork of arduousness, with some seams still showing. - Brandon Stusoy, Pitchfork, http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18057-kylesa-ultraviolet/
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link
10-1 will be posted tomorrow. Will start later - around 4pm UK time
Oh, them. I need to catch up with Kylesa. I have their first three but my enthusiasm sort of petered out a few years ago.
― Devilock, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link
Album results (so far) playlisthttp://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/6fsnIonKsPLF5NzZ9hJg27spotify:user:pfunkboy:playlist:6fsnIonKsPLF5NzZ9hJg27
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― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link
xp well this sounds nothing like the first albums especially iirc
― a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link
That review did not incline me to catch up with them after all.
― Devilock, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:25 (ten years ago) link
fwiw i am enjoying Vaura a damn sight more the second time around
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
you cant judge albums after only 1 or 2 listens
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link
Trust my review then
it's good
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link
"This is not some Scott Weinrich/Matt Pike/Bill Ward fantasy project"
That would be fucking awesome.
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link
Direct Link to poll recap & full results
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:34 (ten years ago) link
Well the guys in Beastmilk were indeed sad, at least with S.A.D. (seasonal affective disorder), according to the interview in Decibel that I read in the courtroom. I'm surprised no one pointed out their many similarities (vocal, etc) to Interpol, heh. But there are not so many sad retreads in metal as much as genuine tributes. Guess it all comes down to which genres you prefer bands pay tribute to.
I finally got to leave court. I was worried the defending attorney would want to pick me because I said it's an abuse of the legal system to treat it like the lottery with ridiculous awards of millions of dollars for minor injuries in an accident where no fault was proven either side. However he asked potential jurors about their hobbies. I said running, writing about music, concerts and worshiping Satan. No I didn't say the last part. However I think it's a way they try to judge to see how easily they can manipulate jurors, which is why they don't like people who are too educated or intellectually engaged. Good thing to keep in mind if you don't want to get stuck in several week trial and perhaps even have to get sequestered.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link
I like some of the psychedelic tendencies on the last couple Kylesa albums, but would prefer a bit more psych and less sludge. Maybe the next album.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link
i got the impression some folk thought there was too much psych and not enough sludge
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link
hang on f-n-b .. is court thing a job, or, a temp jury service kind of groove ? ps. i like what i have heard of kylesa, but i love psych.
― mark e, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
Just now listening to a little Beastmilk; p cool
― the legend of rapper chance (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
But there's no shortage of sludge! I would have expected Beastwars, Celeste and Jucifer to do better.
mark - In the U.S. all citizens are obligated to do jury duty no more than once a year if they are randomly picked. I've gotten the notices nearly every year the past 6 years, while my wife has never gotten the letter. She wishes she could do it but I hate it.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
ahh.same in uk.so far, despite my age, i have never been called up for jury duty.
― mark e, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Album I'm surprised hasn't placed yet = Shooting Guns
― the legend of rapper chance (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link
xxxp
Really what wore thin with me about Kylesa was the monotonous, shouty singing style. Musically they didn't change much over the first 3 albums so I guess I have at least a widened musical palette to look forward to.
Also, this countdown is sort of fun, thanks for doing it. I should probably shut off the Finnish black metal and avail myself of the opportunity to check out what I've missed.
― Devilock, Thursday, 16 January 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link
They change up the vocals some, but could still improve in that area.
Other thoughts, glad to see Avatarium high up, since it's release seemed kind of under the radar at first. The band is Leif and Carl from Candlemass, Lars from Tiamat and Marcus from Evergrey, who I'm not familiar with. Jennie-Ann Smith mainly sang blues and jazz previously.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
vaura losing its appeal towards the end of the album. when yer doin metal/postpunk crossovers it's not like yer really going for avantgarde complexity, so may as well make it as propulsive and fiery as you can. vaura fudge it ever so slightly by trying to keep it black metal. a bit of a cake that's been had, eaten and corpsepainted
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link
fwiw Evergrey had at least one really good album in them, In Search of Truth -- dark and moody power metal with a gruff baritone on vox, kind of a rarity. Supposedly Recreation Day was good too.
― Devilock, Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:08 (ten years ago) link
Pinkish Black, now THIS is more like it
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link
i played the kylesa record quite a bit when it came out cos i really liked the noisiness and the shoutiness of it - reminded me a bit of unwound. did end up getting a bit bored of it though
― tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
imago does it pass your art school qualifications test? :P
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:24 (ten years ago) link
yes
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Pinkish Black album is fantastic. Lots of points for that one in both polls
― the legend of rapper chance (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 January 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link
Got My Vote
19 Ghost - Infestissumam, 502 Points, 15 Votes17 Queens Of The Stone Age - ...Like Clockwork, 557 Points, 15 Votes, One #1 14 Darkthrone - The Underground Resistance, 597 Points, 17 Votes
Need to check out
20 Summoning - Old Mornings Dawn, 500 Points, 14 Votes18 Beastmilk - Climax, 529 Points, 15 Votes, One #116 Hell - Curse And Chapter, 560 Points, 14 Votes, One, #115 Nails - Abandon All Life, 561 Points, 16 Votes, One #112 Atlantean Kodex - The White Goddess, 615 Points, 15 Votes, One #111 Kylesa - Ultraviolet, 637 Points, 18 Votes, One #1
That Hell video is amazing... And I am intrigued by the Beastmilk based on the love here.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
At this point I feel weird talking about Pinkish Black, but I'm happy every time I see someone is enjoying it.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Did you work on that album?
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link
No, they've just become close friends.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link
get 'em on ilx haha
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:24 (ten years ago) link
I think heavy or extreme metal fans dig anything heavy or extreme not just heavy guitar stuff.
This is the case for me, but I also like non-extreme stuff. My friends who were big into death metal in college were also into power electronics and stuff like Venetian Blinds. Noise d00ds I guess?
Very glad Avatarium placed so well. I'm gonna have to check Vaura out since it's getting so much talk on this thread.
― Viceroy, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:24 (ten years ago) link
I started that Vaura album, and as soon as I got to the vocals it just made me want to listen to Killing Joke. So now I am.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:30 (ten years ago) link
silence, then bonus track = bumping u down 2 spaces in my mainpoll ballot pinkish black sorry
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link
them's the rules
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link
fp
― Mordy , Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link
Listen to the LP version. The record company cut it off.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:54 (ten years ago) link
o ok
mordy! why this outburst
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
Acoustic doom. Avatarium rehearsing "Moonhorse" - http://youtu.be/o_4Zu40lqRk
I got my CD in the mail yesterday, disappointed the "War Pigs" cover wasn't included.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 17 January 2014 00:13 (ten years ago) link
Interesting countdown so far.Surprised to see Ghost on it at all. People actually liked that album eh?
― Rocky (ku4u1u), Friday, 17 January 2014 01:24 (ten years ago) link
yup
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 17 January 2014 09:48 (ten years ago) link
Surprised there has been no top 10 predictions yet.
Who wants to see who guesses the order best?
You get 100 ilx cred points!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 17 January 2014 10:21 (ten years ago) link