Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

i dealt

Sleeve, I saw Michael Hurley at the old Prism Coffee House space, but that would have been 1999/2000 or something. Are you going back that far or did I miss him coming back to town somehow?

hmmm I thought there was a more recent one! I could be wrong but I am pretty sure it was at the downtown teahouse, not Prism. when you say "old", do you mean "defunct"?

xp it is crazy, i mean, how much did the bachman show cost -- $5?

Let's be clear here, I was not playing folk, which I think is what the problem was. I am very squarely in minimal electric psych/improv territory, mixed in with some playing that is a little folky here and there, so if you showed up to a show expecting acoustic guitars/banjos and then had to watch some dude bow a lapsteel and coax feedback from an amp then you maybe would have a case for "not signing up for this shit" syndrome. Still, if they had walked outside for 15 minutes and then come back they would have enjoyed two absolutely great and painless acoustic sets and could have just chalked it up to the opener being shitty/not their thing.

Cost was $7 I think.

Sleeve, I lived in NYC for a while, so he may have played here during that stretch and I would have had no idea. The Prism closed a while ago, but apparently some folks are trying to revive it at a downtown location.

1) honestly dealt w/it

2) "I want my money back because I did not enjoy the music of an opening act who 1 hour ago I had no idea even who it even was and I still got to see Daniel Bachman for $7 and now I'm mad" GTFO

UMS, I hope setting up shows gets easier for you. In my town, which is small, you just make do. You would fit in with plenty of stuff coming through, but that middle-ground is hard in some towns. Honestly there were a ton of years where I played with either spazzy/superloud/aggro/weird rock bands or noise folks, and neither was exactly perfect (though I am into all of those things), but there just weren't many people coming through town that ever made perfect sense. Right now just seems to be a relatively good time in regards to a pretty broad range of stuff being in the wheelhouse. If you ever want to come to Charlottesville I can set up a show for you!

::puffs on pipe:: ironic how pre-fahey the notions of 'folk music' being bandied around on this thread are ::rocks on chair::

Hah I don't like using the word generally, but I think I was attempting to channel the audience somewhat. Really "acoustic enthusiasts" was a catchall I am more comfortable with. In regards to my own playing I hate to this day telling people what the hell I do, but "folk" would not be a word I would associate with it generally.

Ogmor, I like this "puffs on pipe/rocks on chair" commentary!

Fuck man I am loving the hell out of that Bruce Langhorne "The Hired Hand" soundtrack, thanks for throwing that up here.

listening to Brendan Canning (broken social scene dude), the album You Gots 2 Chill which I avoided because of the title and this is an ok indie record but it making that Ten Best American Primitive Releases of 2013 is S T U P I D especially because as I noted Glenn Jones didn't make it </endrant>

the first song (titled Post Fahey teehee) fits this thread but come the fuck on

in better news that Head of Wantasiquet record is AMAZING, love it

Funny, just had a friend post that list a couple of days ago and make the same exact complaint in re no Glenn Jones. I have never listened to Broken Social Scene.

Lots of cosigns for that Head of Wantastiquet record, gotta track it down it looks like.

I pulled out some records I hadn't listened to in a while last night and fell for the Chasny-related August Born record all over again. It's a collaboration between Chasny and Hiroyuki Usui (Fushitshusha and other Japanese groups I imagine) that came out around School of the Flower. Really nails a downer, sad vibe well. Has some really pretty, minimal Chasny playing, plus Usui doing all kinds of cool shit all over it, for those who haven't gone down this particular Chasny-path (I had forgotten this record completely). One of my favorite tunes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MuBN1cMMS8

I lost track of this thread and need to catch up, but I finally recorded another song!

Please let me know what you think:

https://soundcloud.com/factual-1/kozy

wow that's awesome evan....
are you using a nylon string guitar?

one small bit of (constructive feedback) - this sounds great but on headphones it felt kinda unbalanced stereo-wise, like everything felt like it was panned right a bit?

that August Born record is lovely, for some reason it eludes my memory too but when I come across it every couple of years and give it a listen it's always a very nice surprise. Usui also has a beautiful avant-blues album called Holy Letters under the name 'L'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=087ka2YFsxM

Thanks ums!! It's actually an electric. Oh the tuning by the way is DGDGbBE with a capo at the 3rd fret.

Yeah, I don't get why it's doing that. It's through GarageBand with an m-box and I couldn't figure out why it was all on the right. Maybe I added an effect that messed it up by mistake.

yeah maybe like a stereo reverb plugin had a pan setting?

Yeah I think that's it. Gotta tinker some more

I want to grab that L/"Holy Letters" record at some point, really enjoy the feel of that stuff. Listened to that August Born about 5 times over the weekend. Good record to live in for a while.

Like that recording a lot Evan, some very nice playing on there.

Thank you! Been working at the finger picking. Still only have two fingers going at the moment. Will record another- maybe today?

Hey guys! going to Califone/William Tyler tonight! Haven't been to a non local show in awhile, very excited for Tyler... is Califone cool live?

Oh man what a great show! Haven't seen Califone myself but would LOVE to.

i saw califone eons ago, at ATP in los angeles. i thought they were great!

Late pass needed here, but goddamn is this Chris Forsyth record something! This is incredibly reductive here, but I've always wanted a record that was like just Jerry Garcia's sublime noodling without his voice or anything else and this kinda gets close! Just love this sound so much.

It really is a great record jon/via/chi, so much guitar territory covered and truly a world of sound in there. I think I like the songs even better live, and the full band is going on tour very soon. I know they are playing here in Charlottesville, VA, on Feb. 15th. I have only seen them live once, but it was really good. I am sure they are even better/tighter by now. If your display name is referencing Chicago they are definitely playing there:

CHRIS FORSYTH & THE SOLAR MOTEL BAND

2/15 Charlottesville, VA @ Tea Bazaar
2/16 Durham, NC @ The Pinhook w/ Daniel Bachman
2/17 Asheville, NC @ The Mothlight w/ Greg Cartwright
2/18 Nashville, NC @ The Stone Fox w/ William Tyler
2/19 Louisville, KY @ Dreamland Film Center
2/20 Columbus, OH @ Bourbon St
2/21 Milwaukee, WI @ Cactus Club w/ Mind Over Mirrors
2/23 Chicago, IL @ The Empty Bottle w/ Doug McCombs & Mind Over Mirrors
2/24 Cleveland, OH @ Mahall's

I assume the Greg Cartwright from 2/17 is the GC from Oblivians/Reigning Sound, which is a cool pairing for a bill.

That is a cool pairing! I'm going to have to see if there are tickets for that Empty Bottle show left, thanks for the heads up!

maybe tyler will jam out over some tortoise songs!

Went to Califone/Tyler last night...COLD AS FUCK OUT like -10 below F I think William was a little thrown by it he said something about how thanks for so many ppl coming out Nashville would be shut down...

he played about the same set as when I saw him earlier in the year, no new material...was great. though honestly he did seem a bit stiff for the first half but man i wonder if it was just the cold, the Cedar Cultural Center is a really drafty old building...but second half really took off starting with an acoustic set of Behold the Spirit stuff...said his uncle gave him his guitar, which was falling apart and said he could have it if he got it fixed, it's a 50s Martin...

Califone was great! 2 drummers playing minimal kits....lead singer mostly on acoustic & some keyboards, other main dude played keyboards, pedals, drum machines, bass, electric guitar, etc etc.....they play so well together...seems like Wilco kinda stole their shit with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.....anyway, just really cool shifting arragements and very rhythmic....songs would emerge and fade out these long pretty electronic drones....very excellent show. came more for Tyler, who was good but I think Califone made more of an impression that night.

also i've been listening to their records on spotify this week and i definitely loved them way more live than on the records (which i do think are good)

Sure thing Jon, I for one am excited to see this band in a small club, as the only time I saw them was at an outdoor day show, which was very very cool but I have a feeling being in a small room fully immersed in the sound is going to be the way to check this band out. They have new tunes apparently as well. Maybe they'll even throw in a Television cover here and there.

Glad that show was good UMS, still haven't seen W. Tyler but Califone was pretty good the one time I saw them. I liked that utility dude the best, he played some very cool stuff throughout the show. I am sure it would be tough to play the fluid shit W. Tyler does when it is that cold out, sheesh that sounds tough as hell if the room is drafty and the outside is brutal.

yeah and he was great, just a touch off at the beginning, but honestly he kinda makes things sound so easy it's too easy to get picky, he was fantastic and did some cool drone shit with delay pedals and doing stuff like setting a microcassette recorder on his pickups and playing stuff into it

just found this -- michael rother cover! pretty awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZhFWffzpAI
let's have a william tyler band album, eh?

i'd imagine for him right now money wise it's a lot more economical to tour solo, take all the money, no overhead, tour in a car, etc

He mentioned one of his more recent 7"s had a full band behind him.

this one? it is great, would definitely be into a whole album along these lines: https://soundcloud.com/nashvillesdead/william-tyler-oahspe-ndr-007
or a different one?

I overheard him mentioning it to someone after a show, but I'm not sure exactly which one it was. I figured it was more recent since it was at his show a few months ago.

Shit man I really like the Rother cover, pedal steel with effects is ace. Falls right into my country-kraut tangent from upthread, hope I get to see this kinda thing live at some point.

ah shit i should have bought that 7 inch at the show, just try not to cuz i never end up listening to them much

snagged a vinyl copy of Behold the Spirit for $15 which he was sold out of last time he came through

Hope to grab some C. Forsyth vinyl in person, I always like buying direct if I can. Still excited they are headed here, haven't seen a really good rock band in a small room for some time, just improv/jazz/solo guitar type stuff. Need some amps and serious guitar solos.

i'd be into going to that show jvc!

Just to stoke the fires a bit, here is C. Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band doing Television's "Little Johnny Jewel":

https://soundcloud.com/#solar-motel-band/03-little-johnny-jewel

There are some other live sets and songs on that soundcloud page, so dig around a bit and you can see for yourself whether this is your kind of thing live or not. As stated, they are probably gonna get better and better as this tour goes on, they are still a relatively young band.

That cover's great!

jvc + ll, I'm definitely into going to see them too!

Yeah, the band definitely cooks a little on that one.

I've always wanted a record that was like just Jerry Garcia's sublime noodling without his voice or anything else and this kinda gets close! Just love this sound so much.

― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, January 23, 2014 12:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If this is your wheelhouse (it's mine to!!), you also need Kenzo Deluxe, which is as good as the new one but those liquid-y Garcia-isms are even more upfront (less St Stephen, more 'middle of Playing In The Band' vibe)

ugh, abysmal typing there, sorry, my hands are ice cold. Fuck a wintertime