Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

Nothing of Chasny's hits me as hard as For Octavio Paz, personally, though I do like plenty of his other records (School of the Flower has been doing it for me lately). But yeah, he is not precious about anything, certainly not his own playing.

Really hope to see T. Dorji play live, I will certainly report back if I do so. Seems like the kind of playing that would be pretty striking in person.

ha someone else was just talking up tashi dori to me, saw him open for bachman a little while back. will check it out!
that Alan Licht thing Chasny mentions sounds interesting.
and speaking of Ben, it's not really for this thread, but the New Bums LP is fantastic, really really good.

I enjoyed New Bums live, was pretty charming and low-key. I like that Licht record a lot, but I am a Licht solo fan generally. It is definitely maximal, some real aggressive electric tones on there.

xxp yeah improv guitar technique can be v engaging, exciting little moments &c. I saw tetuzi akiyama play acoustic to about five people in the upstairs room of a bar, at one point slowly leaning in to the mic droning bass till he found the sweet spot of resonance where the many windows in the place buzzed and shook, before slowly leaning back & carrying on playing pretty

i fell asleep while watching tetuzi akiyama until he took out his electric and started playing stuff from that don't forget to boogie album (i think? like that) and it was so loud that i could feel it in my teeth

The manipulation of sound in improv is completely my thing, and the different ways people do it, especially with acoustics, is always fascinating to me. Never had a chance to see Akiyama, but seems like a must-see to me if I get a chance.

Chasny has pulled that droning acoustic trick a couple of times when I have seen him live, it's a good one.

xxp haha, i generally like him as quiet as possible, but i love his deafening hendrixisms too

grandavis you'd definitely enjoy him. steffen basho-junghans too, if yr in europe or something, probably the most amazing technique i've seen

also i don't really want to discuss the ham-fisted reification of "American Primitivism" but the list at the end of this is sort of interesting at least - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Primitivism

I have to thank you for getting me more into Basho-Junghans, I went on a few listening sprees last year but of course have not seen him in person. Would love to see him live for sure.

SBJ seems to have gone a bit quiet of late.

some weird unknown names to me in the wiki list. would almost make a viable poll.

i mean, who is norberto lobo?

he wins appreciative points for calling a piece "ayrton senna" as i have a weakness for musical compositions dedicated to sportsppl that i refuse to justify

there are the big names, some serious faheyites like charlie schmidt, andrew stranglen, ragtime ralph, and a lot of ppl who i feel may have added themselves. searching through their varied web presences is a study of tropes akin to the marketing of masculinity thread. just a bunch of guys in checked shirts, believing in the american primitive dream.

i sincerely hope with every fibre of my being that this is the same pat o'connell listed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdKrXtDNaeU

I recently came across the new Peter Walker at the record store. There was just one sealed copy, couldn't listen to it, and thought I had come to the conclusion that there wasn't anymore 'old' Walker to be released. Then I read the blurbs on the cover and it seemed like a songwriting kind of album, so wasn't sure what to expect at all. Thankfully I bought it regardless because of my handy giftcard. Didn't know how to take the vocals at first but it really grew on me, and the steel string playing is fairly darker feeling than his ecstatic nylon string raga albums from Vangaurd. Much of the playing rarely changes in feel throughout the whole thing but it is a sound that I can defiantly love for 45+ minutes.

Also, the short essay that comes in the sleeve is worth it on it's own too. I had no idea how integrated he was into certain groups and events that took place in the early 60s; was also surprising that he ventured into studying and practicing law after disappearing from the music world.

Streamable here:
http://delmorerecordings.bandcamp.com/album/has-anybody-seen-our-freedoms

That Peter Walker record is amazing. My favorite, total deconstruction of any rhyme measurement. So weird.

I really like that Green Glass song posted above, going to have to track that down at some point. Something about the tunings that guy uses, and his phrasing, that really resonates with me. I mean, I like bleak for sure, and his acoustic shit is doomy/heavy without using obvious (to me at least) tools to get there.

I also really enjoyed that M. Blue Smaldone electric tune! I am a fan of the Cerberus Shoal/Big Blood/Smaldone crew for sure (I lived in Portland, Maine for a couple of years) and I am glad they are still putting records out. Had no idea that that record existed though, had only heard the acousic Smaldone stuff. Reminds me of the Richard Thompson songs I have heard, any fans here should check it out.

that "new" peter walker is definitely pretty strange, but also great, I think. still trying to wrap my head around it actually.
listened to basho junghans' song of the earth over the weekend - man, that guy really needs to start making records again, he was way ahead of the curve. do we know why he hasn't done anything in a while? i know he suffered from carpal tunnel at some point...

Have to get to that Walker still, going to give it a listen today. Ogmor probably already suggested what happened to B. Junghans, but maybe he is just taking a break for a while. Maybe the time is ripe now for him to get something out.

pretty intriguing review of william tyler's full band show over the weekend:
"We heard lots of influences coming to the surface during Tyler’s set: the acerbic blues licks of Captain Beefheart’s Strictly Personal, The Byrds and the groove of Nashville ‘70s rock. Area Code 615 themselves — who of course played the tune "Stone Fox Chase" — would have been impressed by the combination of Tyler & Co.'s versions of Bobby Charles’ 1972 “Tennessee Blues” and Neu! guitarist Michael Rother’s 1977 “Karussell.” On the Charles tune, the band abstracted the original’s 6/8 groove, with Tyler showing off his ability to play skronk guitar. Essaying Rother’s kraut-rock classic, they emphasized the song’s melodic contours."

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/archives/2014/01/06/william-tyler-and-band-wadia-victoria-and-lylas-1413#more

Well that sounds pretty great. Hell yeah, hope recordings pop up.

Oh, btw Tyler, can get you a copy of the Bowles/Verrastro duo set from here in Charlottesville if you want it. Let me know how to get it to you (can put it up on soundcloud for a day or two or something ....)

I saw this guy William Rees last night, he was so full-on it was a bit fatiguing over time but it's nice stuff, kind of a James Blackshaw vibe where it leans much more Basho than it does blues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr9vR6KXfLw

Luke Hirst from the UK released a new digital album.
4 dark lengthy tracks.
http://lukehirst.bandcamp.com/album/breaking-the-hex
it's more consistent than the one from last year: http://lukehirst.bandcamp.com/album/farewell-adventures
which is good too and got also featured on the NPR's dude massive "american primitive" list (if that means something).

oldie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdjaoY7i7j0

Dylan Golden Aycock is a great dude. He's got going quite a few different projects that all lend a hand to some of the best examples where guitar playing and modern drift + drone (of the Stunned Records variety) are crossing.

One of my favorite things he does is Talk West. There's a couple people doing ambient lap steel stuff, but Talk West does it in a way that mostly avoids avant leanings and instead puts in heavy mid-western environs. Talk West has been out on tape through No Kings (Lee Noble's label), Avant Archive (Black Eagle Child's label), Tape Drift (Rambutan's label), and a brand new one on Australia's Preservation.

He has quite a few straight(er) forward guitar recordings. Had good press a year back for a lathe that was cut into copies of his father's chest x-ray. A really nice, somewhat recent one of 12 string playing is here on Unknown Tone's Bandcamp.

He also runs Scissor Tail Editions. They re-released that amazing Bruce Langhorne soundtrack of Peter Fonda's "The Hired Hand". That one got a lot of deserved press.

Either way Scissor Tail Editions and Aycocks releases + contributions are an integral part in a smaller family of the best cassette and experimental labels doing work right now. His visual work too and the great craft of Scissor Tail Editions' releases.

I think a lot of people of this thread, if they haven't heard it yet, would really like the Bruce Langhorne "The Hired Hand" soundtrack. A western movie of 1971, Langhorne recorded it to tape in his living room as he had an advance copy of the Fonda movie on loop.

You can stream it here:
http://scissortail.bandcamp.com/album/the-hired-hand

He was a big contributor to things happening in Greenwich Village, and was a performer on lots of Dylan recordings.. many others, Peter Walker's Vanguard LPs. Stefan Wirz's amazing discography site has a list here:
http://www.wirz.de/music/langhfrm.htm

always meant to check out langhorne...

i did another couple open mic nights...went ok but god it's kinda depressing waiting around by yourself.

though i did have one of those happenstance events that makes things worthwhile...later in the night a younger African kid got up and played an instrument called the kirar, an open string west african instrument (his is outfitted with an EMG humbucker)...anyway pretty hypnotic stuff, he doesn't really know anyone so he just goes around to coffee shops and open mics i'm going to try to help him get some shows...

grabbed a little video of him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRv590rF6yw

also
i haven't recorded in awhile but wanted to at least get a demo of this new song....kind of a halting performance and still not totally perfect with playing with fingerpicks

https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/somewhere-outside-frost

hmmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRv590rF6yw

Hey UMS, really like the new tune. The pacing and melodies remind me of Glenn Jones a bit, and seems like you are pretty much there with the picks. Thanks for sharing.

Also, the kirar is a cool-sounding instrument. Not sure I had ever heard one before.

I second Chasny's repping of that beautiful Head of Wantastiquet LP that seemed to sink like a stone upon release (label troubles, iirc). I like all of Paul's stuff, but that one was a constant go-to in our house all of last year. Also, beautiful gatefold worth the price alone.

And FWIW, I'd put The Hired Hand soundtrack on my list of all-time favorite albums. It's probably the most played (non jazz) instrumental album I own. It helps that my wife loves it, too.

Also good, re: Scissor Tail label, that Nathan McLaughlin cassette titled Karen Studies. That one knocked me out.

Is the Head of Wantastiquet guy ex-Sunburned Hand of the Man? Just curious, but yeah Ben's list had quite a few things I will try to check out at some point. Still trying to catch up with a bunch of stuff from this thread.

kinda different, but y'all will dig it if you don't already know it: https://soundcloud.com/soundohm/luciano-cilio-interludio-da
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18845-luciano-cilio-delluniverso-assente/
& yeah, the Hired Hand soundtrack! It is too bad Langhorne didn't do a dozen records in that vein. guess it makes the Hired Hand all the more special, but it's so fleeting.

hey are you guys voting in the ILM poll? i'm giving high placing album votes on a bunch of "post-fahey folk" lps.

Haha we should troll and have everyone put all our points on like Chuck Johnson and have a surprise no.1
Grandavis - thank you, being even compared to Glenn is a huge honor. Been listening to him a lot lately. He has such a sense of ease and calm about his playing, he's seems so comfortable with the guitar like he's never straining, just pulling out these great melodies

CJ was my #4!

yeah I am voting in that poll, I guess I need to start paying attention again. any recommendations appreciated, the only ones on my radar right now are Bachman and Hughes

xps

Haven't even looked at the ILM album poll, but will at some point. Not really my thing, but glad it happens.

Agree with all that UMS, Glenn's batch of tunes from his last record have really stuck with me. I actually get his melodies stuck in my head all the time, unlike a lot of the recent folks playing from a similar angle (many of whom I also like of course, they just don't manage to nail a tune like Glenn). But yeah, it was a sincere impression I got from your tune.

Agreed, I noticed he wasn't on that top 10 American primitive albums of the year list which I thought was kinda odd but I think he's so consistently good and unassuming that's he's easy to underrate

Oof Sleeve, there is a lot to recommend from this year depending on what you are in the mood for. The Desert Heat/Chris Forsyth "Solar Motel"/Cian Nugent "Born With The Caul" records are all supremely good electric guitar workouts that could be someone's favorite depending on their inclination. Glenn Jones "My Garden State" would definitely be near or at the top of my list. Chuch Johnson record is really great for straight acoustic dynamism. Marisa Anderson "Mercury" is a personal highlight too, but shit, a quick scan of this thread would recommend dozens of things to check out, cause this is just stuff off of the top of my head.

Love that Lena Hughes record as far as reissues go.

that zachary cale album made my ballot, along w/bachman, johnson, jones, and marisa anderson.

cool, thanks y'all, most of those are on the Spotify playlist I think

I mean obviously I need to leave spots for the half dozen Legendary Pink Dots albums that came out in 2013, but I definitely have room for some of this stuff

Hard for me to imagine leaving Glenn Jones off of that kind of list, but at this point maybe he is just taken for granted a bit based on "lifetime achievements". I mean, when you have made a record with Fahey etc. I guess you are playing in a different arena somewhat.

hey if anyone itt wanted to take a break from the acoustic and go in the more raga-rock/noodly/noisy/groovy direction, just for fun, consider joining me for this low-stakes ilx comp? ILX Compilation v6: FREESTYLER - rock your microphone

no pressure!

That is my direction La Lechera, but still no reliable home-recording setup for me. Hope to hear that you have teamed up with some other jammers to take this comp into some cool territory.

oh, i have no setup either. all i have is my phone to record things with-- i'm kind of into lo-fi shitty home recordings though. it's in my blood!

i just thought i would post that here in case anyone was like well, ok.

Hah I don't even have a smartphone (I guess all phones can record a little, but mine is particularly crappy). Goal of 2014 is to get a decent home recording setup, so we'll see when that becomes a reality.

grandavis - my set up is just this very reasonably priced USB mic (Blue Yeti), it's under $100...then using a modest Dell PC laptop with the freeware recording program Audacity

the stuff i posted earlier today was recorded with it, and i know jackshit about recording and all things considered it doesn't sound too bad