W&W is mainly let down by cloudy mix and production (the only case where I think the remix/remasters bettered the original), always felt like there was a veil over the music or a blanket on the speakers. The second side of the album is tremendous.
― akm, Monday, 23 December 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
That Ylvis song is basically just a Genesis rip-off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tYyqf0KJWY
― jmm, Monday, 23 December 2013 16:58 (twelve years ago)
Could be bullshit but I heard a radio DJ last week say that Collins and Gabriel are in talks for a real Genesis reunion...
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:48 (twelve years ago)
They're always in talks. Genesis may be the only huge act constantly breaking up and reuniting where every member old and new is still friends.
I thought Phil could not play drums?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)
I have heard Phil can't drum from a whole bunch of people. Didn't know Genesis were all still friends though, doesn't Gabriel routinely refuse to sign off on reissue extras & stuff?
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 26 December 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
Money talks.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 26 December 2013 23:56 (twelve years ago)
Gabriel recently acknowledged recently that them all being still alive might be good reason to consider playing together once more
― PaulTMA, Friday, 27 December 2013 00:54 (twelve years ago)
collins recently returned to drumming.
― akm, Friday, 27 December 2013 01:11 (twelve years ago)
i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't pull off a show or two at the 02 or something. would have to be very different from the old shows, I'd expect.
― akm, Friday, 27 December 2013 01:12 (twelve years ago)
Would maybe put Roxy in here too, if not exactly best buddies.
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 27 December 2013 02:58 (twelve years ago)
the roxy thing is infuriating to me, mainly because I missed their last tour, and thought there was one coming up, but they backtracked on all their statements. I guess the album resulted in Olympia, which I like a lot, but still
― akm, Saturday, 28 December 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, almost all the Roxy guys appear on each others records, still. Though not always all at once, and Ferry doesn't cameo.
Peter always participates in Genesis biz, but he moves so slowly they rarely wait for him.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 December 2013 16:43 (twelve years ago)
https://store.realworld.co.uk/product-category/peter-gabriel/lego-mini-figures/
― StanM, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 16:38 (eight years ago)
Holy shit, those are the best things ever.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:42 (eight years ago)
https://i0.wp.com/www.musicalbrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/legoLambLive06.jpg
These have been around for a while; funny that Peter is now selling them though his official store.
Apropos of the thread:
https://progarchy.com/2015/02/01/genesis-lego/
― dinnerboat, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:58 (eight years ago)
Uh, LEGO, don;t know what Phil's been telling you but his hair was never that thick
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:34 (eight years ago)
Got a press release about that Genesis covers band The Musical Box playing Hammersmith Apollo in the spring and I am FUCKING TEMPTED
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:35 (eight years ago)
Why does Phil have "Sifilis" on his shirt?
― StanM, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:49 (eight years ago)
go see the musical box they are awesome!
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:38 (eight years ago)
i have a ticket for the SF show I need to unload (show is on Monday), I'm going to be out of town. mr schwitterz?
― akm, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:53 (eight years ago)
The Musical Box are awesome! What set are they doing?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:03 (eight years ago)
i wish akm! ill be outta town too.
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:09 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijNOt6e2v-o
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:09 (eight years ago)
The best one I saw them do was when they had a bald left-handed drummer who sang like Phil! Apparently they got him from (shock) a Phil tribute band.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:10 (eight years ago)
they're doing both the black and white sets of the selling england by the pound tour. which is great; but I've seen them do those three times already so I'm not broken up about it. I did see them do the Lamb a few years ago and it was pretty much everything I'd hoped for. I hope they do it again.
― akm, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 21:56 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIZwg1t2iAo
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 15 April 2021 09:57 (five years ago)
Wow, that's incredible quality.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 April 2021 11:42 (five years ago)
Amazing. The description of the restoration is incredible too; I'd love to see some of the outtakes where the AI thinks the curtains are made of hair. I imagine in a decade there'll be a fully immersive VR version of clips like these.
― dinnerboat, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:24 (five years ago)
whoa, that's unbelievable. kinda want to see what the original footage looked like.
funny how the camera barely captures Steve. you almost forget he was in the band. you can hear him though
also: was Phil Collins the sexiest man in prog in the mid-70s? or does Peter Hammill take the crown?
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 April 2021 13:33 (five years ago)
that is some astounding clean up work. There are really very few film clips of this period (shepperton studios is the famous one) and the quality of them has been getting better and better every year as more people do restorations on them.
― akm, Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:53 (five years ago)
incredible... can't wait to see more old stuff being restored like this
― StanM, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:43 (five years ago)
Damn, that is incredible.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:47 (five years ago)
yeah that's the most exciting part of this to me. imagine a Magma or Can concert film like this
― frogbs, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:47 (five years ago)
Original footage, FYI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VZ645W6Ss
― dinnerboat, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:19 (five years ago)
Pity half of 'Supper's Ready' is edited out. Still, fantastic stuff.
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:50 (five years ago)
Saw this on the Hoffman board, can only hope it is true and photos may one day emerge:
Peter Gabriel's sister was a teacher at my primary school in the late 70s/early 80s. We had the Slipperman costume used in one of our school plays!
― PaulTMA, Friday, 16 April 2021 22:14 (five years ago)
Let's gooooooohttps://www.stereogum.com/2145905/genesis-announce-north-american-reunion-tour/news/
― J. Sam, Thursday, 29 April 2021 14:45 (five years ago)
why do I feel the tickets are gonna be like $300 apiece
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:07 (five years ago)
lol because they will be? on the low end?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:19 (five years ago)
also lol at the "?" in the tour name.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:20 (five years ago)
Third, sad lol that the little Instagram announcement in that piece afaict uses the recorded versions of those songs instead of current live recordings/rehearsals. I did find these clips, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNR2YsfT37A
Which has the band rehearsing, Phil playing some drums and ... Chester also there? But I suspect this upcoming tour will probably be mostly Phil's son on drums.
And this, showing the realities of Phil trying to hit certain notes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD7om5JjYnU
And a very Spinal Tap moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpUKbHjvCCg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:28 (five years ago)
Actually, no idea when these rehearsals are from, maybe 2007?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:30 (five years ago)
they're pros with infinite money so I'm sure they'll cobble together a decent show I just don't know...how
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:56 (five years ago)
phil's not playing drums, bummer, but obviously he just must not be able
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 April 2021 16:12 (five years ago)
XXP Josh that is taken from a long-form doc about the last reunion, which is pretty entertaining and has some very potent Spinal Tap moments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9FuWw8ZuDo
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 29 April 2021 18:10 (five years ago)
I signed up for the pre-sale this morning. It's been 35 years since the last time I saw genesis play (also in a hockey arena). then after watching some of the rehearsal clips, i realized that attending this show would probably depress me more than anything... make me wonder how many more years until I'm not able to stay on my feet for 90 minutes. So $600 saved there, I guess?
― enochroot, Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:59 (five years ago)
Yeah, I thought they were great on the 2007 tour, but Phil did a very short solo tour a couple of years ago, and I thought clips from that were super sad.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:16 (five years ago)
ive never managed to see genesis live which is kind of insane considering how important they have been to me, so I want to do this, but dunno if I'm going to make it out to the east coast in the middle of fucking winter.
― akm, Thursday, 29 April 2021 21:05 (five years ago)
I saw them at Knebworth in 1992, a little while after my VERY INTENSE teenaged obsession with them had cooled into respectful nostalgia, and while the stuff off We Can't Dance was mostly a drag, the old epics medley at the end was great (cannot remember if Phil had outgrown all that Blues Brothers bullshit during Turn It On Again yet)
― burnt hombre (stevie), Friday, 30 April 2021 08:34 (five years ago)
This is the full list of the leak, have grabbed everything up to before '92, and I'm not so fussed about Phil live, but I guess this Kieran guy will float them all on YT before long.
1973-01-10 Paris (VID)1974-03-01 Passaic (SBD, tape 1 only)1974-09-xx Lamb rough mixes and outtakes1974-11-21 Chicago (OAM)1976-07-09 Glasgow (SBD)1976-07-10 Stafford (SBD, tape 2 only)1977-02-24 Boston (SBD, tape 2 only)1977-03-03 Quebec City (SBD)1978-10-14 Chicago (SBD)1978-10-22 Houston (SBD)1980-04-28 Glasgow (SBD)1980-06-30 Saratoga Springs (SBD)1981-11-14 Rosemont (SBD)1981-11-28 NYC (SBD)1981-11-29 Uniondale (SBD, tape 2 only)1981-11-30 Landover (SBD)1981-12-02 Hartford (SBD)1981-12-05 Ottawa (SBD)1981-12-11 Syracuse (SBD)1982-07-31 Peoria (SBD)1982-08-01 Peoria (SBD, one tape only)1982-08-07 Berkeley (SBD)1982-08-13 Dallas (SBD)1982-08-18 Clarkston (SBD)1982-08-29 Montreal (SBD, tape 1 only)1982-09-21 Birmingham (SBD, tape 2 only)1982-09-30 London (SBD, tape 2 only)1983-11-25 Philadelphia (AUD)1983-11-26 Philadelphia (AUD)1983-12-01 Hartford (SBD)1983-12-02 Syracuse (SBD)1983-12-07 Pittsburgh (SBD)1983-12-10 Norfolk (OAM)1984-01-12 Inglewood (SBD)1984-02-01 Indianapolis (SBD, tape 1 only)1984-02-16 Reno (SBD, tape 2 only)1984-02-17 Las Vegas (SBD)1984-02-20 Oakland (SBD)1984-02-25 Birmingham (SBD, tape 1 only)1986-10-01 NYC (SBD)1986-10-03 NYC (SBD)1986-12-17 Sydney (SBD, tape 2 only)1987-02-01 Lexington (SBD)1992-04-30 Houston, 1992-06-18 Los Angeles, 1992-06-25 Tinley Park (VID)2007-04-25,26 Cossonay (SBD)
Phil Collins1983-01-24 Fort Worth (SBD)1985-02-07 Shepperton (SBD)1985-02-08 Shepperton (SBD)1985-02-09 Shepperton (VID)1985-04-03 Sydney (VID)1985-05-29 Dallas (SBD)
― Maresn3st, Monday, 1 September 2025 10:08 (nine months ago)
oyh nice, thanks for the hu on this
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 1 September 2025 23:30 (nine months ago)
taken down :(((
― conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 16:57 (nine months ago)
Yeah, just saw that, I wouldn't fuck with Tony Smith, I bet he shouted very loudly at someone.
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 17:39 (nine months ago)
Oh, just seen that *all* the torrents on the Genesis movement website have been nuked, fuck, hope they don't go for d1m3
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 17:42 (nine months ago)
I assume someone saved them all, as they did with that Van Halen treasure trove?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 17:56 (nine months ago)
Wish I had managed to grab some of the live Lamb shows and the Collins studio stuff but did manage a few 80-81 gigs. Great shows!
― completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 6 September 2025 10:54 (nine months ago)
I think there are some mirror sires on reddit if you have a scout around
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 6 September 2025 15:10 (nine months ago)