can't believe ilx has no lostprophets thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RleE--HDBiU

Pity Whitehouse have split, they could have got an album out of this

nice. Whitehouse never glorified child abuse fyi

Lovely chaps

god dude don't you remember that "Don't Abuse Kiddies Mmmmmkay?" split 10"??

Whitehouse never glorified child abuse fyi

A photocopy from a magazine of child pornography was used as the cover of issue #2 of Pure which led to Sotos pleading guilty to possession of child pornography, receiving a suspended sentence.

Anyway, ancient history aside, saying they could get an album out of this is hardly the same as saying they glorified child abuse, is it?

he wasn't glorifying it tho, the same as he never glorified serial murder, misogyny, sexual violence, fascism etc

Christ but he looks like dude from deadwood

Is there a chance watkins is father to either child, or are we not speculating for whatever reason or

I think it's fairly clear he isn't

Re the leg: one of those c4 documentaries had someone having had 'extreme tatoos' with scenes of rape, various etc.. So yeah I can believe it.

that pic was doing the rounds approx 24 hours after the relevant quote started getting reported so even if you assume that someone instantly leapt from their computer chair and sprinted to the nearest tattoo parlour I don't think it would have healed like that

the issue of the pixels can be tackled by someone else I'm sure

http://spoilertv.co.uk/images/cache/archived-old-shows/deadwood/season-1/cast-promotional-photos/s1-cast-silas-adams_595_slogo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AdiBQLW.jpg

you can't not trust anyone these days

i'm with you, no way that picture was a fresh tat

Inking? That's a pre-draw, right?

sorry for paedo tat
;;
^

He's going to have to cover it up until it's 16 years old.

not sure where else to put this
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2014/03/28/sunday-preview-du-pont-heir-stayed-prison/7016769/

Rich trust funder got probation for raping his 3 year old daughter. He also raped his infant son apparently.

Tracy Richards, who confronted her then-husband, told police he admitted abusing his daughter but said "it was an accident and he would never do it again," the warrant said.

my gf is in DE right now and confirms that the place is absolutely & utterly fucked

if andré villas-boas spent his entire payoff on coke and upscale restaurants he would probably look not unlike that in twelve years' time

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Eleuth%C3%A8re_du_Pont

vile rotarian squibs denied comeuppance by complicit lawgivers; tale as old as the elitist abuse of children

john du pont seems to be something of an outlier in his family insofar as an interest in the ornithological indicates a mind driven by concerns other than psychopathy. of course this led to 2 things:

a) his regression to the mean was more openly violent than other family members'
b) as an at least partial opt-out from the cadre he was not covered by the corrupt legal guarantees of the state of delaware

one less prisoner to be extorted, beaten and raped

i believe in clemency & forgiveness in 90% of cases where the law does not, especially where drugs and/or peer pressure are involved

this scumfuck deserves neither & the world may do unto him as it chooses imo. seems something of a scandal and a shame that it has been denied such a direct crack at him. obv ideally he would go to prison, face his own monstrosity and fall into the sort of torturous psychological mania that corporate entitlement and occultist rite aim to protect their progeny from as they go about their acts of brutal & repugnant supremacy

american criminal justice is a sewer though, some countries (although not the uk which has an unequal extradition treaty in favour of america) have refused to extradite crims there because of the likelihood of human rights violations, goole is correct in that judges should be more willing to query what happens to the people they imprison even if it's usually a privilege afforded only to the white & moneyed

coruscating fuckboys the lot of em

since you got pissy abt that before, 'coruscating' is in ref to adjectival clichés, never used unironically

the miscarriage of justice is not just that this guy will escape much punishment but that incarceration is so grotesque here that someone thought the best thing was for him to stay out of it

there was a lot of cognitive dissonance in the furore around the ethan couch case, 'what would happen if this underage dui killer was poor/a minority/etc', sort of aware that what is likely to happen to an underage kid in a texas prison is not really just either

re the lostprophets rapist -- his ex girfriend who complained to police about him is now charged with sex offences

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/21/ian-watkins-lostprophets-former-girlfriend-denies-charges

put him in a room with mirrored walls and ceiling. feed him & provide him hygiene facilities. let him contemplate himself.

in all seriousness, the corrupt incarceration system is surely in a large part to blame for the rotten prison culture, and complete overhauls of sentencing are the only way to prevent prisons from becoming cesspits of cruelty

lol

i know, not gonna happen (or if anything they'll get worse)

i think a reduction in sentencing drug-related offenders to prison and a consequent reduction in prison overpopulation would go a long ways

yeah, so what I said

...but newer!

ha

plenty already on ilx (much of it iirc courtesy of harbl) about the prison economy & why it means that sentencing will not relent any time soon

yup

that mirrored walls and ceiling thing sounds like an acute form of psychological torture, i hope no latterday ceaucescus and pahlavis are reading i love music

like bentham's panopticon, which it uncannily inverts, it demonstrates how 'humane' corrective methods that attempt to encourage self-reflection tend towards the sinister

it's one of those staring-you-in-the-face bits of etymology - that the radical, humane idea in imprisonment 200 years ago was a building designed to encourage prisoners to be penitent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_State_Penitentiary

haha I would have no expectation other than autogenerative torture for such an arrangement. really though I can only attempt to convey the futility of dealing with (or considering how to deal with) such a criminal in any rational manner

that mirrored walls and ceiling thing sounds like an acute form of psychological torture

was abt to say I do appreciate that I can click on this thread and find an ilx-y take on the "I'd fucking sew his asshole closed and keep feeding him" type sentiment that lit up my FB feed in the Christmas runup

LOL at "America doesn't punish elites!" Europe doesn't CONVICT elites, does convict everyone else accused by the cops, guilty or not.

Show me a criminal justice system that works. I prefer the one that occasionally deliberately acquits people whose guilt have not been proven, but they all stink.

plenty already on ilx (much of it iirc courtesy of harbl) about the prison economy & why it means that sentencing will not relent any time soon

Related: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/31/arizona-gop-gives-private-prison-company-1-million-to-house-inmates-who-dont-exist/

Lobbyists for the private prison company GEO Group convinced lawmakers to include almost $1 million extra in funding despite the fact that the Arizona Department of Corrections claimed the money wasn’t needed.

Late last Friday, Arizona House Appropriations Chairman John Kavanagh (R-Fountain Hills) placed the extra funding into the budget because GEO Group’s lobbyists informed him that the company wasn’t profiting enough off of emergency beds it provides Arizona prisons.

She also told Watkins she thought they had a “deep connection that couldn’t be matched” and signed off one message: “Child molesters till we die.”

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/05/ian-watkins-lostprophets-girlfriend-child-abuse-fantasies

"But he said she claimed she kept the images to trap Watkins and bring him to justice. She denies seven charges in relation to the images."

It looks like in the face of unassailable guilt she is trying the old absolute bollocks "doing it for a noble reason" Pete Townsend defence.

hey it worked for Pete Townsend tbf

the remaining lostprophets bros have a new band with former thursday frontman geoff rickly called no devotion, everything they've released has been really great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S1O3D8Q7_A