nicely done. review also prompted me to seek-out this website, which identifies samples used in songs, posts clips of both songs and pinpoints the sampled moment in both of them.
would never have guessed that the stone-roses were sampled in ashtray wasp.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 12:51 (twelve years ago)
burial sent a message to a bbc 6 show about the rival-dealer ep:
I put my heart into the new EP, I hope someone likes it. I wanted the tunes to be anti-bullying tunes that could maybe help someone to believe in themselves, to not be afraid, and to not give up, and to know that someone out there cares and is looking out for them.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 13:03 (twelve years ago)
A+ review Dwight Yorke (unexpected major spelling breakdown (two words?) in the first line of the last paragraph though?)
― StanM, Saturday, 14 December 2013 14:53 (twelve years ago)
https://soundcloud.com/beriel4furtit2k13/rivel-beriel
― StanM, Saturday, 14 December 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)
http://cdn.hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/beyonce-cover-500x500.jpg http://waws-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/12/Burial-Rival-Dealer-1.jpg
design twins, nearly. both fond of surprise december releases. they should do an album together.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:03 (twelve years ago)
I would actually love them to.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:16 (twelve years ago)
beyrial
― mh, Saturday, 14 December 2013 17:55 (twelve years ago)
This EP is fucking amazing imo. Got a really nihilistic pissed up feel to it. Post-nightbus.
― ewar woowar (or something), Monday, 16 December 2013 01:20 (twelve years ago)
― mh, Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:55 PM (Yesterday)
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2013 01:21 (twelve years ago)
blasted this in the car for the first time yesterday evening. title track sounded mindblowing at loud volume. really might be the best thing i've heard all year.
funny how december -- normally a "dead zone" for new music releases -- was among the strongest months for new music in 2013.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:25 (twelve years ago)
also
beyrial― mh, Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:55 PM (Yesterday)― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 15, 2013
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, December 15, 2013
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 16 December 2013 01:26 (twelve years ago)
Listening to this for the first time now. You really know an artists is a critically overindulged one-trick pony when a change of sound this minor is hailed as a controversial left turn.
― Matt DC, Friday, 20 December 2013 14:41 (twelve years ago)
Nobody forced you to like him or click on this thread, or did they?
― StanM, Friday, 20 December 2013 16:13 (twelve years ago)
critically overindulged one-trick pony vs. having a totally focused, identifiable, and hugely influential style
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 20 December 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)
damn this is still amazing. the few-second stretch on the title-track, just around the 1:00 mark, where the song's main riff is kinda audible, but slurred and submerged, then jumps to the forefront and locks in, is brilliant.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 2 January 2014 02:36 (twelve years ago)
Sorry, didn't realise this was only a thread for positive comments. FWIW I do like Burial, or some of his stuff at least, but he is very indulged and granted a level of reverence that 99% of producers aren't, even when he's being lazy or uninspired or just a bit crap, and the tracks here don't represent anywhere near as much of a curveball as is being claimed in some quarters.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 January 2014 13:27 (twelve years ago)
you're right. should've thrown every identifiable aspect of his sound out. these tracks, especially the b-side, sound nothing like anything else he's done. i don't see where you are getting that vibe from it. you don't have to like it, but that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
― illegalblues, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:17 (twelve years ago)
I've accused Burial of being a one-trick pony in the past, but I felt like the new single was making a big statement even before he came out with his statement about bullying. The sample choices and way they're used are extra evocative on this release. I think he's getting better with time and I'd rather play his last 2 eps than his first album at this point.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:24 (twelve years ago)
the tracks here don't represent anywhere near as much of a curveball as is being claimed in some quarters
no, but it's a noticeable change, just like his experimenting with very long pieces, with several movements, was a noticeable change, just like his moving into more propulsive, upbeat tunes (with four-tet) was, at the time, a noticeable change. i don't mind him mining his signature-sound, especially since he is moving it around, albeit incrementally. i actually prefer this to the genre-hopping you see with some artists (including my beloved r.e.m., who developed and discarded several signature-sounds, and kinda hung around other genres for an album or so, with varying success).
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:48 (twelve years ago)
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― creating an ilHOOSion usic sight and sound (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:50 (twelve years ago)
Matt: I totally understand when people say they don't like something and they can explain why they don't like it, but that "critically overindulged one-trick pony" was the thing that I didn't get and I took it as "let's troll the fanboys by insulting them"
― StanM, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:52 (twelve years ago)
http://soundcloud.com/hypertrap
^_^
― mh, Thursday, 2 January 2014 16:57 (twelve years ago)
Pretty clear to me that the latest EP counts as mixing things up...I just don't think it works as well as the previous one, too "obvious" and latter-M83-y. Nothing wrong with trying something new though, I'll still be as keen for the next one.
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:21 (twelve years ago)
Stan I was eyerolling at FACT magazine etc, not anyone on this thread.
I don't really like it for roughly the same reason as Local Garda, it's his usual sound with the addition of some other really out-of-place elements. The final part of one track just makes me think of Kate Winslet and Leo DiCaprio on the front of the night bus, it's reaching for this really cloying kind of emotional grandeur.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 January 2014 14:00 (twelve years ago)
eternal sunshine of the sinking ship?
― mh, Friday, 3 January 2014 14:51 (twelve years ago)
http://www.factmag.com/2014/01/16/burial-to-appear-on-james-blakes-first-bbc-1-radio-show-tonight/
― Number None, Thursday, 16 January 2014 22:18 (twelve years ago)
wow. hm. stupid question, but since i actually might be interested in hearing this interview -- anyone know if that channel/program available streaming online? since i'm EST, it will probably air in the dead-of-night.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 16 January 2014 23:08 (twelve years ago)
It's on in 15 minutes...http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_one
― Number None, Thursday, 16 January 2014 23:44 (twelve years ago)
it was a simple lampoon
― Number None, Friday, 17 January 2014 01:12 (twelve years ago)
i hate james blake now.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:02 (twelve years ago)
(unless he's burial).
Missed it, what happened?
― StanM, Friday, 17 January 2014 02:41 (twelve years ago)
http://t.co/ZTH45eFmES
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, 21 January 2014 22:21 (twelve years ago)
"critically overindulged one-trick pony"
I'd only vaguely heard of Burial before hearing it for the first time by accident, around the time of Untrue. But I can attest that if I'd heard all the talking about Burial before hearing the music I'd probably see him as overindulged too.
I've barely kept up with the writing about Burial since those days – am I right in thinking he's become a 'breakout artist' kind of, like how Aphex Twin finds his way into playlists and record collections and conversations that peers of Aphex wouldn't get into?
Don't think one-trick pony works though, too many different things going on across the records. It might all take place in a broken mirror but you get different pictures floating across it.
― cardamon, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 05:09 (twelve years ago)
Don't know why anyone would moan about a musician doing variances on a theme, especially in light of Rival Dealer.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 08:14 (twelve years ago)
Yeah pretty much. He's got some hype in the broadsheets in the UK which has exposed him to middle-aged types who normally wouldn't listen to underground electronic stuff, eg my parents
― paolo, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:43 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Ud20jq9LM
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:14 (twelve years ago)
ahahahahahaha
― nathey, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:19 (twelve years ago)
Beautiful.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 12:30 (twelve years ago)
http://www.hyperdub.net/burial/burial.jpg
oh hai
― keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:20 (twelve years ago)
Aw, he seems quite sweet.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 31 January 2014 15:25 (twelve years ago)
Someone tweeted just that link and first couple of lines I thought it would be a dramatic 'I'm retiring' kind of thing
― abcfsk, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:48 (twelve years ago)
Hopefully by the end of most years I have done some tunes that are decent enough to release. but Dark Souls 2 is on the horizon soon so I'm not sure if I will have many new tunes for a while because I need to play that game a lot.
a++
― adam, Friday, 31 January 2014 15:48 (twelve years ago)
So Burial is Kode 9 Four Tet Alexander Nut?
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Friday, 31 January 2014 18:10 (twelve years ago)
is there anyone who is seriously still a burial conspiracy dude or is it all joeks
― mh, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:36 (twelve years ago)
LOL ed.b
― the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 18:51 (twelve years ago)
guess he was at James Blake's Boiler Room set a while backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8idi7PcsbU
― Number None, Friday, 31 January 2014 19:40 (twelve years ago)
pretty sure he's sampled dark souls in the past.
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 19:49 (twelve years ago)
Hope this means he'll be putting out "Feral Witchchild" and all the other BBC mix stuff Hyperdub never bothered to release full versions of.
― Frontier Psychiatrist, Saturday, 1 February 2014 12:56 (twelve years ago)
Rival Dealer has officially sunk in and I know it was touched on briefly upthread, but. . .
. . .did he use this release as one big coming out party?
Can't think of a more glorious, life-affirming way to do it, if so.
― Austin, Wednesday, 12 March 2014 06:45 (twelve years ago)