did not know this was out!
http://thequietus.com/articles/14119-the-fall-remainderer-review
― sleeve, Friday, 13 December 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
>>>in a way that evoked the shock of first hearing ‘Reformation’, perhaps The Fall’s best song, back in 2006<<
Whaaaaaat.
New EP sounds well-recorded on first listen. The Gene Vincent medley ain't too hot though.
― Michael F Gill, Friday, 13 December 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
I dearly love The Fall but does everything they release need to be overhyped? The new EP is ok with a couple of excellent tracks but, c'mon, it's no Slates.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 14 December 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
I've been really enjoying it (in a sort of sloppy bleary mood tho). media coverage often seems to come from "fall-as-thing" rather than the content of the music, so you get this absurd fracture between grand cultural institution language heaped on a sketchy half-assed and even at best only esoteric ally rewarding mess.
admission: when I play my early/late fall typology game - Re-Mit=Slates.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 14 December 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
lol @ reformation quote.
Review makes it sound squarely like rampant me-bait Fall, the fact that the reviewer mentions 2 of ny top 5 Fall songs does help
― veneer timber (imago), Saturday, 14 December 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
Sorry shit post am sitting in North Upper at The Valley watching our boys get beat by Detby
― veneer timber (imago), Saturday, 14 December 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
1 minute into Mister Rode and it's clearly the greatest thing ever
― veneer timber (imago), Saturday, 14 December 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
^it seems, on first two listens, to be about a newly formed experimental or supernatural creature exuberantly delighting in the fact it can have a face and a name, albeit translucent. Standout lyric - "i got a look, translucent face - i mirror dead souls every day." superb all round. Sorry about the result.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 14 December 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
rest of the EP is ok and all, good moments, last track especially, but nothing really stands alongside the mighty mister rode
― veneer timber (imago), Saturday, 14 December 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
& thanks - better times will come, possibly in lower strata
I agree with your picks, Imago - "Mister Rode" jumps out at you. Honestly, I'm quite content getting a couple of great tracks and ignoring the rest.
Hopefully this will continue with every Fall release until the untimely death of MES.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 15 December 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link
hush yr mouth
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Monday, 16 December 2013 01:34 (ten years ago) link
Mister Rode is fucking amazing, feels like a fundamental Fall song
― imago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
Kinda think that to be an all-time greatest candidate it maybe needs to bring the main refrain back after that titanic closing build but cmon man you've had nearly 8 minutes of the song, don't get greedy
― imago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link
post-YFOC material that belongs in 'the canon', discuss
I'd have:
Taking OffMonocardNo Respects Rev.JetplaneMister Rode
anyone wanna suggest more? I'm probably underrating Re-Mit there tbh
― imago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
Not much gra for post-YFOC stuff tbh. I'll check out his Mister Rode song.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Saturday, 8 November 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
I would add "The Remainderer" and "Loadstones" but that's a pretty solid list, especially "Jetplane" imo.
― cwkiii, Saturday, 8 November 2014 07:18 (nine years ago) link
Ya Loadstones was the one I felt hardest leaving out, it can come. My other fave track off Remainderer was Touchy Pad, but it's a good EP
― imago, Saturday, 8 November 2014 09:26 (nine years ago) link
I need to have a go at Re-Mit once and for all and soon
― livid in America (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 8 November 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
aside from the Laptop Dog 7" I've been avoiding these releases, having a listen now
― sleeve, Saturday, 8 November 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
OK on this new EP I liked "Amorator!" and "Rememberance R" more than the tracks y'all are into, Smith's unintelligibly mushmouthed bellowing is the main stumbling block here imo. They have a snappy, confident feel and are a bit more restrained which allows Smith to work his territory rather than compete for it in the mix.
It's about time we got a real version of "Race With The Devil", it has a long history w/the band and John Peel. Wait, I think this is the same live version recorded on Peel's birthday, never mind. "Say Mama" is a perfectly fine Fall-as-rockabilly move
The same MES bellowing mars the last track, which could have been really cool.
― sleeve, Saturday, 8 November 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link
My post-YFOC/2010 picks:Taking OffNate Will Not ReturnGreenwayI've Seen Them ComeAge Of ChangSir William WrayHittite ManVictrola TimeMister RodeBlow Up Muscles (a solo MES track from a compilation)
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 9 November 2014 04:10 (nine years ago) link
Agree with most of these selections. I really love "Kinder Of Spine" off Re-Mit too.
I listened to The Unutterable today and found myself wishing that they could have mined that lush/heady well-produced sound for at least one more album. "Cyber Insekt" is still an all-time favorite.
― Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link
i listened to The Unutterable yesterday, it's one of the best albums of the 2000s and absolutely one of The Fall's best records, fucking astounding work. ditch 'serum' & 'das katerer' for being self-remixes and 'pumpkin soup' for being too, too much & it's also practically faultless
― imago, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link
I love that William Blake song and two librans, both quite perfect.
― xelab, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
yep
amazing that nobody had written 'two librans' before, it feels like a song that had to be written
― imago, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
that riff i mean
"Alan Brazil and Hatton on about 'discipline for all'" - this his always felt like a lyric for the ages.
― xelab, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link
*has
― xelab, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
you can just see mark e smith boggling at the radio, maybe giving it a kick
― imago, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
New radio documentary from 6music -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b052r0l5
(heard the 2nd half while working yesterday, didn't seem great)
― woof, Monday, 16 February 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
Brix Smith & Ex The Fall Members Bring You…
/// BRIX SMITH AND THE EXTRICATED ///
Brix and the Extricated are comprised of ex-members of The Fall’s halcyon period. They are the writers behind some of the most beloved songs of The Fall canon. The group played a rapturously received stage debut December 13th 2014 in Manchester.
They reclaimed their music, with a propulsive punk vitality and breathed new life into the old favourites. The crowd was in awe – this wasn’t some tribute band – they “own” those songs and reinvented them. Furthermore, the band has explosive new material they are test-driving live and to record.
Brix and The Extricated marks the first return to music since 1996 for Brix Smith-Start, former wife and songwriting partner of The Fall’s Mark E. Smith.
The live show is astounding, and Brix’s stage presence isn’t a continuation of where she left off so much as a re-birth --- a commanding and riveting rock – roll front-person, her vocals deservedly to the fore, her lead guitar playing as raw and primal as before.
Twenty-year Fall lynchpin bassist Steve Hanley is on bass and making his first forays since the 90s. His brother Paul Hanley returns on drums, and the band is rounded out by ex FALL guitaristsSteve Trafford and Jason Brown.
The universal question after the first gig was, “Why didn’t this happen sooner?”
FAN FOOTAGE: ‘CRUISERS CREEK” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxfmeUsv4HM
- i bet MES is apoplectic.
― stirmonster, Monday, 16 February 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B99gA19IYAAuwvz.png
― Jeff W, Monday, 16 February 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
No Scanlon, no dice.
― NO CLOO (I M Losted), Monday, 16 February 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
"No Scanlon" is slightly less damaging than "No Hanley" but yeah Steve Trafford kind of sticks out like a sore thumb on that lineup.
I'm glad they are doing this but I'd rather Brix write new tunes for these guys, adult net style
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 February 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
i bet MES is apoplectic.
Well, he did call them "fucking sub-human"...
http://thefall.org/news/pics/2015-01_Mojo.jpg
― cwkiii, Monday, 16 February 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
psyched about the Live-Evil influence on upcoming Fall stuff
(actually I can hear this in some of the things this lineup has already done, now that I think of it)
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 February 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
Notice how he's subtly giving us all the finger.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 16 February 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
>>Brix and The Extricated marks the first return to music since 1996 for Brix Smith-Start,
Untrue, Brix released a digital-only solo album ("Neurotica") in 2007.
― Michael F Gill, Monday, 16 February 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
Wander what pub in Islington he was in, description could fit 90% of them though.
― Nut-bloody-rageous (Tom D.), Monday, 16 February 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
... wonder
― Nut-bloody-rageous (Tom D.), Monday, 16 February 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
even with a dubious guitar choice, I would go see this band in a heartbeat
I mean, Brix plays a pretty mean guitar herself!
― sleeve, Monday, 16 February 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
oh sure brix on lead is great, the recorded evidence is plentiful.
Obv would totally see this band just to beam love at her and shanley.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 February 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
Don't know if I would use the adjective 'astounding' to describe that version of Cruisers Creek up there, more like ok with occasional bursts of lead.
― Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 08:04 (nine years ago) link
Probably The Actual Fall would never play that song now though. They are doing what Mark E Smith would never do - giving the people what they want. ie. a greatest hits selection from their most popular period.
Here's a selist from a recent gig by Brix and the Extricated:
US 80s 90s2X4Cruisers CreekGravitationHotel BlodelLABonkers in PhoenixLay of the LandDeadbeat DescendantBring it DownBig New Prinz
vs. the most recent setlist by the Fall (from November) I found online:
Amorator!Mister RodeGone To VeniceThe RemaindererBam (Student Village)DedicationCock In PocketHittite Man (into Jungle)Cowboy GeorgeFibre Book Troll2014Hot CakeBlindness
― everything, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 09:28 (nine years ago) link
I wouldn't have known Brix/Extricated even existed if MES hadn't mentioned them in his end-of-year address in some magazine I saw.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 10:28 (nine years ago) link
Wow those songs are so not my favorite!
― NO CLOO (I M Losted), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
The Extricated band ones I mean.
― NO CLOO (I M Losted), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 14:03 (nine years ago) link
They are so Brix though.
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link