feel like i should check out the haxan cloak at some point
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:13 (twelve years ago)
i liked the stellar om source album when i listened but i couldn't hear what really made it special
nice to see a list headed by two female artists btw, even if one of them is laurel halo
haxan cloak is good. bit more straightforward than any of the demdike stuff iirc, kind of dark ambient dub in the same sort of vein as errr.... help me out here?
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:17 (twelve years ago)
haxan cloak is basically getting all the attention that deaf center should have had in previous years
― exciting vampire castle (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)
That RP Boo album is winning a lot of cool points but i'd argue it's not the most exciting footwork release of recent days. many of the tracks are reprised from other places and while he might be footwork's originator i find his stuff a bit too random and scattered to really enjoy much in 2013. 'double cup' is a much better example of where it's at right now. can't remember if there were many other footwork albums released this year?
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:21 (twelve years ago)
It's just really good bleepy techno. Mind you I was similarly nonplussed by the Maximilion Dunbar album.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:23 (twelve years ago)
the last track on the haxan cloak album, "the drop", is really incredible. the rest kind of pales in comparison to it imo.
― mums go off when i enter the building (monotony), Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:23 (twelve years ago)
Yeah I think the Haxan Cloak is good screwfacing ambiance but not much more but that final track is fantastic./
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:30 (twelve years ago)
Thinking about it, I wouldn't be all that surprised if Stellar Om Source won the Wire poll
― exciting vampire castle (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:36 (twelve years ago)
assuming I don't hear anything else that supersedes it RP Boo is my #2 album of the year. just completely love his whole deal. didn't really get the impression it made a big splash tho 'communities' like Juno are p much totally unknown to me (much as their list is lookin good)
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 December 2013 14:44 (twelve years ago)
ah now i'm interested. those deaf centre records are incredible. only discovered them this year.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:16 (twelve years ago)
yeah, as far as creepy slowburn horror-movie-in-yr-head ambience goes, those guys are pretty untouchable
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:32 (twelve years ago)
yeah, i love all that kind of thing. i think spotify actually recommended them to me after listening to bohren und der club of gore.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:34 (twelve years ago)
useful spotify recommendations? sounds a bit far-fetched
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:39 (twelve years ago)
i know!
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:39 (twelve years ago)
if guardian commenters ever got hold of that juno list, my god their servers would surely crash under the deluge of emails saying "better than jon hopkins? i think not"
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)
The Boombox - 10 Best R&B Albums of 2013http://theboombox.com/best-rb-albums-of-2013/
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)
don't think those are ordered, but typed out -
John Legend, Love In The FutureK. Michelle, Rebellious SoulCiara, CiaraRobert Glasper Experiment, Black Radio 2Justin Timberlake, The 20/20 ExperienceTamar Braxton, Love And WarJanelle Monáe, The Electric LadyRobin Thicke, Blurred LinesFantasia, Side Effects Of MeThe Weeknd, Kiss Land
fantastic to see k michelle and fantasia show up
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)
xp I think you misunderstand Guardian commenters Nick. It's not that they love Jon Hopkins - the real grouches probably prefer Haxan Cloak - it's that they HATE mainstream pop made by young women.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 5 December 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)
ha well i don't disbelieve that tbh, certain strains of mainstream pop made by young men FOR young women too most likely
― rp boo bryson (NickB), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:03 (twelve years ago)
The worst people last year were the Swans fans. Really put me off that album by framing it as the weapon of choice for misogynists with a superiority complex.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)
some of the most enthusiasm i've seen for bangerz has come from vatican shadow, really need a remix to happen
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:14 (twelve years ago)
it is interesting how myopic these people are, like they act like they're the only person in the universe capable of critical thought or discernment.
xpost to DL
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:15 (twelve years ago)
xpost to DL, shame cos it's a great album.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:15 (twelve years ago)
it surprises me a little how narrow-minded Guardian music readers are, considering the paper's supposed progressive stance and the general remit of its editorial.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:16 (twelve years ago)
Liberals tend to as bad if not worse than conservatives about this sort of thing, i.e. "Why do you listen to such corporate crap, man? It's bought and sold to you and you accept it!"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:17 (twelve years ago)
In my experience, I progressive world view doesn't extend to a broad appreciation of music genres.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)
*I=A
i guess there is that.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)
Also, Alfred otm
it's just that most of the time only bored and/or angry people with an axe to grind bother to get involve. same in most places online.
xposts
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
of course it's not like that here
tbh this is a stance that's been drummed into the public by decades of rockist music journalism. we're not that many years removed from those attitudes coming from the critics themselves
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
xposts but also it's like, FFS grow up and realise that everything's bought and sold to you.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
it's a relief to be different from them
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:20 (twelve years ago)
Finally giving the Fantasia album a spin at present, and it's wholly satisfying!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:20 (twelve years ago)
AV Club
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:25 (twelve years ago)
If I was A Bird off that Fantasia album is one of my fave tracks this year.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:25 (twelve years ago)
tbh this is a stance that's been drummed into the public by decades of rockist music journalism
It's a perennial attitude, it precedes rock journalism AND rock music. Precedes jazz even.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)
left liberalism is riddled with concerns about authenticity tbh
― Noodzilla (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)
false consciousness etc
I have been playing "Without Me" incessantly
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:26 (twelve years ago)
fantasia album is good but i like k. michelle's more
― mums go off when i enter the building (monotony), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:27 (twelve years ago)
has anyone heard the john legend album? i think one of his singles is going to be #1 in australia this week.
I love them both and would give them big hugs if those albums were real people
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:27 (twelve years ago)
fantasia more likely to hug you back, k michelle more likely to punch you in the face
(which is why both are great)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:32 (twelve years ago)
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:16 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think it just gathers a bunch of bad-tempered torch wavers and rap-more-like-crap dullards in one place by virtue of being one of the more visible, swiftly turned over outlets for music writing that also has a comment box. rarely get the impression that ppl posting under music articles are esp invested in the 'image' of the Guardian, in the same way that commenters on say food articles might be
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)
I feel like people regard Fantasia as something of a joke when she's (IMO) one of the best singers to appear on the scene in the past decade.
― SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)
but also yeah if Guardian readers had been able to comment at will in the 1950s it would probably be full of junior Ewan McColls decrying the idea of singing over instruments
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)
I feel like people regard Fantasia as something of a joke
It's possible that's true. To me, she'll always be that last really interesting winner of American Idol (no offense Carrie Underwood).
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:41 (twelve years ago)