I was just listening to "12 Galaxies" the acoustic live record a couple of days ago, so good. I am always a bit surprised how effectively they are able to convey heaviness and menace in an acoustic setting.
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 21:43 (twelve years ago)
The Thin Black Duke being mastered today. This album has been 'coming soon' for ages now but maybe this time we're finally getting somewhere.
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)
https://youtu.be/VBLgUgyMcW0
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:44 (ten years ago)
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 6 May 2017 15:37 (nine years ago)
yeah this record rules
― adam, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:04 (nine years ago)
can't wait to hear itthought this was interesting, them using such a big-time producer for such strange music (wish more underground bands valued production this much)
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/producer-joe-chiccarelli-isnt-just-a-legend-hes-also-the-connection-between-morrissey-u2-and-oxbow
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:12 (nine years ago)
I was going to wait to listen it until my lp arrived but I couldn't wait and streamed it this wknd, a great record.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:31 (nine years ago)
The impression I got from the new Quietus interview is Chiccarelli wasn't their first choice, they wanted Visconti
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:36 (nine years ago)
Said interview:
http://thequietus.com/articles/22360-oxbow-interview-eugene-s-robinson
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 May 2017 16:28 (nine years ago)
I do love this bit:
Eugene S Robinson: I’ve been kinda thinking about this idea that records made early in the careers of people who make music, a lot of the time and especially in the idiom in which we’re working, they’re a product of hysteria. They’re largely akin to somebody rushing in and screaming, ‘Your apartment’s on fire!’ or ‘Your car’s on fire!’ or some variation thereof. Most of the time, if you live life beyond the initial records, in your actual lives, you could functionally say, ‘Take it easy. Things are going to be OK.’ And then they go on to the next record where they try to duplicate that experience of hysteria from the first record. The difference is that if you look at 30 years of record-making, eventually you evolve into a non-hysterical orientation about life – but it’s no less crucial… because it all ends the same fucking way. I don’t find that joyful at all. I don’t find the prospect of it, just because it happens to everybody else – I’d like to recall Yossarian from Catch-22 – how can that possibly make a difference, that it happens to everybody else?
An announcement (via Eugene's FB account):
As promised: a THIN BLACK BOOK announcement.The plan was this: extremely LIMITED edition of a companion volume to THIN BLACK DUKE, an 80-plus page deep dive treatise. A third would be sold to the people who most immediately backed it, a third would be sold during the European tour and the remaining third would be sold at our soon-to-be announced American shows.BUT we undersold in countries where English is not the primary language AND we now realize that because of the way we have to tour America (Friday-Saturday-Sunday fly-out jaunts until we cover the entire country), we'd have to warehouse the remainder, which is something specifically WE DO NOT want to do.SO....the 67 books we have? We will sell. PayPal $25 to Pinko95014 at yahoo dot com ($20 more if you live outside of America).Orders that actually have shipping addresses? Will get shipped first. And orders will be shipped weekly.This offer is only good until July 1st, 2017. If the books all sell before then, your money will be refunded. And if you hate PayPal hidden cash, checks and money orders can be sent to CFY, PO Box 19271, Stanford, Ca. 94309.No stupid questions. Now tell the world.
The plan was this: extremely LIMITED edition of a companion volume to THIN BLACK DUKE, an 80-plus page deep dive treatise. A third would be sold to the people who most immediately backed it, a third would be sold during the European tour and the remaining third would be sold at our soon-to-be announced American shows.
BUT we undersold in countries where English is not the primary language AND we now realize that because of the way we have to tour America (Friday-Saturday-Sunday fly-out jaunts until we cover the entire country), we'd have to warehouse the remainder, which is something specifically WE DO NOT want to do.
SO....the 67 books we have? We will sell. PayPal $25 to Pinko95014 at yahoo dot com ($20 more if you live outside of America).
Orders that actually have shipping addresses? Will get shipped first. And orders will be shipped weekly.
This offer is only good until July 1st, 2017. If the books all sell before then, your money will be refunded. And if you hate PayPal hidden cash, checks and money orders can be sent to CFY, PO Box 19271, Stanford, Ca. 94309.
No stupid questions. Now tell the world.
The book is fantastic; I highly recommend buying one
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 01:06 (nine years ago)
I just sent in $25... Hope I make the cut!
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 05:40 (nine years ago)
Yeah the book is very cool. I am glad that in this era of ephemeral digital collections that Oxbow really went all out making a physical artifact.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 16:30 (nine years ago)
this album is really something i hope ppl pay attention to it
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 17:03 (nine years ago)
next in line to say this album fucking rules.
I just missed them play in London cos I was away. They're playing Supersonic in Birmingham in June it seems, but I can't see anyone is gonna put them on again in London then. That can't be right, surely.
― kraudive, Saturday, 20 May 2017 16:51 (nine years ago)
Philly show in July! Woo!
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:17 (nine years ago)
agreed, this record is fantastic - had a really good listen this afternoon. friend was saying that live suffered from a lack of the album horns and strings (which obv wasn't a problem for the previous albums).
― Fizzles, Friday, 2 June 2017 17:27 (nine years ago)
Saw them live and finally bought the vinyl
This is so amazing sounding
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 September 2017 16:55 (eight years ago)
Okay, this live album with Peter Brotzmann is phenomenal.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 16:27 (three years ago)
really looking forward to listening to this. i’ve been caning the narcotic story recently. amazing album.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 21:45 (three years ago)
As a big Oxbow & Brotz fan I am amazed that it is even better than I expected (now if only the physical copies would ship...)
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:00 (three years ago)
(now if only the physical copies would ship...)
I've emailed the label twice and gotten no response. I'm getting cranky.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:39 (three years ago)
Huh, I ordered the CD along with a few other albums through the Trost bandcamp on October 31st and got it about a week or so ago.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 22:56 (three years ago)
Yeah, I didn't order it from Trost, unfortunately — they said Sleeping Giant Glossolalia was putting out a US CD version, so I ordered that one.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 1 December 2022 00:10 (three years ago)
― Fizzles, Sunday, 1 January 2023 13:38 (three years ago)
Long story short I finally got my lp copy last night and it sounds great, still kind of can't believe it exists
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 14:40 (three years ago)
"Love's Holiday" out in July https://oxbowofficial.bandcamp.com/album/loves-holiday-out-7-21-23
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:58 (three years ago)
New single out today, "Icy White & Crystalline." Sounds like a forgotten DGC band from the 90s. Love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxz6RrzuR9w
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 15:04 (three years ago)
Nice, super excited for this.
As a side note, I went to go pre-order this from Ipecac's bandcamp page and thought I'd also grab that Dave Lombardo album. It's sold out on every format already, LP, CD, everything. It came out May 5th - that seems insanely fast. It appears I can get it from Amazon, so whatever, but I'd rather than money go to the label than Bezos. Anyway, I'm seeing that a lot more frequently lately that labels are selling out of things really quickly. The new Blood Ceremony being another example - just released on May 5th and every format (LP and CD) completely sold out on Rise Above's website. Are that many labels just doing miniscule runs these days? Just seems a bad look for a hyped new album to be completely sold out from the source less that two weeks post release.
I guess just a good reminder to make sure you snag something the instant you see a pre-order pop up.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 17:50 (three years ago)
This happens a lot! It’s frustrating.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 18:04 (three years ago)
you gotta preorder before the band even forms
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 18:11 (three years ago)
It is super frustrating. I get things like the exclusive, limited vinyl colors getting snatched up right away, but I'm seeing it way too often for literally every physical format. Oh you wanted a copy of that album that came out last week? Too late, you missed it!
I can only imagine how frustrating it has to be for a band...
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 18:13 (three years ago)
had a great first listen to Love’s Holiday just now, after prepping by going back through their albums this week (v rewarding). Dead Ahead is a great opener/single, and it’s an amusing approach how after the first two tracks they move p much exclusively into their slow, stygian power mode. i like the continuing move into melodic ballad trappings, even if a couple of times i had a fleeting sense of more recent nick cave (not a fan). but choral and keyboard set off the muscular torment and pent-up force. it *sounds* great. the group are in v good form and looking forward to seeing them in september.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 22 July 2023 10:32 (two years ago)
I love the new album, it is Numinous and Forbidding in all the best ways
― imago, Saturday, 22 July 2023 10:33 (two years ago)
yep agreed.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 22 July 2023 10:34 (two years ago)
also the track titles are some of the best I've seen in a while. how has no band begun an album with 'Dead Ahead' before
― imago, Saturday, 22 July 2023 10:35 (two years ago)
thankfully the song does that title justice
― imago, Saturday, 22 July 2023 10:36 (two years ago)
as a means of saying sorry to Fizzles I am getting into their earlier stuff
King Of The Jews is fantastic. Angel is one of the great rock songs maybe
― imago, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 10:44 (two years ago)
Eugene pls log back into ILX btw, that was fun
― imago, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 10:46 (two years ago)
King of the Jews is I think my favourite.
― Fizzles, Friday, 19 January 2024 11:23 (two years ago)
you know when they describe a modern album as fire and brimstone because it's kind of noisy, yet kind of trad, and kind of fearsome? yeah well those albums aren't fire and brimstone, this is
― imago, Friday, 19 January 2024 12:47 (two years ago)
https://eugenesrobinson.substack.com/p/the-last-tour-diary-youll-get-outunclear to me what on the tour triggered this but it sounds like oxbow is over for the foreseeable - eugene has quit.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 7 July 2024 20:51 (one year ago)
My reading is that it's more of an intra-band dispute than a "touring sucks when you're over 60" thing, but who knows, honestly?
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Sunday, 7 July 2024 21:10 (one year ago)
i think that about sums it up, yes.
― Fizzles, Sunday, 7 July 2024 21:17 (one year ago)
xpost I don't think the "I hope the people who need help get the help they need" part at the end could be any more clear
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 7 July 2024 23:35 (one year ago)
Losing both Oxbow and Shellac in the same yr, two of the bands I looked up to the most, is deflating
Also, def intra-band dispute
Buñuel, Eugene's other band, has an album coming out in the US (finally) this yr on Skin Graft and they are great
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 July 2024 13:17 (one year ago)
Good reminder to listen to the ones I've not heard yet.
My open DM to Eugene: find some mad zoomers and let them be your backing band for an album or two. It'll be wild
― imago, Monday, 8 July 2024 13:28 (one year ago)
I have all the previous Buñuel records and am definitely looking forward to the new one.
I actually emailed Eugene after reading the newsletter; here was the advice I offered:
1) Don't ever tell any more of the story than you just did. No "music journalist" deserves to earn a byline off of your pain, especially not in the current devalued/degraded environment.2) Don't start another band. Become an itinerant guest star. Show up on other people's records for fun and/or a quick buck. But the music industry's collapsing too (ask me how my micro-indie label's going), so why throw your own money down the sewer? For "Art"? 3) Write more. Fiction especially. It's my observation that "literary" fiction offers the world nothing at all; meanwhile, "genre" fiction is where you'll find serious analysis of the world as it actually exists, tucked in between murders and sex scenes. Read S.A. Cosby (Razorblade Tears, Blacktop Wasteland, All The Sinners Bleed) and Jordan Harper (She Rides Shotgun and The Last King Of California) and you'll see what I mean. There's a lane there that you could slot yourself into pretty easily, especially from overseas. Europeans have a voracious appetite for Americans shit-talking America, in my experience, so a series of crime novels would likely find a sizable audience, even in translation.
2) Don't start another band. Become an itinerant guest star. Show up on other people's records for fun and/or a quick buck. But the music industry's collapsing too (ask me how my micro-indie label's going), so why throw your own money down the sewer? For "Art"?
3) Write more. Fiction especially. It's my observation that "literary" fiction offers the world nothing at all; meanwhile, "genre" fiction is where you'll find serious analysis of the world as it actually exists, tucked in between murders and sex scenes. Read S.A. Cosby (Razorblade Tears, Blacktop Wasteland, All The Sinners Bleed) and Jordan Harper (She Rides Shotgun and The Last King Of California) and you'll see what I mean. There's a lane there that you could slot yourself into pretty easily, especially from overseas. Europeans have a voracious appetite for Americans shit-talking America, in my experience, so a series of crime novels would likely find a sizable audience, even in translation.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 8 July 2024 13:33 (one year ago)
All good advice tbh. Hiring some mad zoomers to make some bonkers backing music won't cost much if anything anyway so it isn't even like starting a band in a way
I thought about 'write more' myself as he's clearly a brilliant writer. I'm also certain he's considering it anyway
― imago, Monday, 8 July 2024 13:42 (one year ago)
(as for the merits of literary fiction, this isn't the thread, and what you said is probably in line with Eugene's thinking)
― imago, Monday, 8 July 2024 13:43 (one year ago)
With Oxbow gone, Buñuel has gone from being Eugene's "other band" to his band, period. They've got a great new album coming out on Friday, which I wrote about in this week's BA newsletter.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 22 October 2024 14:46 (one year ago)
Oh this is exciting yes
― imago, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 15:11 (one year ago)
I was really disappointed in the new Buñuel LP, esp after enjoying the the other records, but I finally had a chance to see them live last night and they were just great
― chr1sb3singer, Saturday, 12 July 2025 14:26 (eleven months ago)
Buñuel live have always been rly good. Haven’t heard the new album yet tho. *Did* see someone wearing an Oxbow t-shirt walking past while I was scarfing some lunchtime oysters and wine in Sète recently tho. Almost ran after him.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 12 July 2025 18:06 (eleven months ago)
Eugene is also a fan of Paul Fussell … his writing style is interesting
― sarahell, Sunday, 13 July 2025 03:27 (eleven months ago)
saw Buñuel last night at the New Cross Inn, a place apparently unchanged since my first ever gig nearly 35 years ago. really great set. an oddly genial Eugene (somewhat zonked on neurofen+ he said), v well constructed - full of excitement, dread, drones and metal riffs, and the pent up violent angers of the universe.
went in somewhat despondent and tired, came out enthusiastic and generally recalibrated. good strong stuff.
― Fizzles, Monday, 1 September 2025 16:38 (nine months ago)
Yeah Eugene has had both(?) knees replaced and moved to Marbella.
― Overtoun House windows (aldo), Monday, 1 September 2025 19:53 (nine months ago)
like you do
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 September 2025 11:11 (nine months ago)
well I'm not gonna argue with him about it
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 2 September 2025 12:59 (nine months ago)
jiu jitsu training injury i believe… and he had a knee brace on. even said he’d changed his policy on people filming *short* clips to post on IG as long as they tagged his mum Irma.
this after coming off the stage walking (very slowly while singing some menacing lyrics to the drone of the bass) to the back of the crowd and gently but firmly pushing down the phone of someone who had been filming fairly constantly while looking him in the eye.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 06:35 (nine months ago)
what a boss. wish I'd gone. was at the NCI only last week
― imago, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 06:40 (nine months ago)