In terms of sequencing/song selection, VU hangs together as well as any of their other records (and better than some). If you didn't know it was odds & sods, you'd never guess just by listening.
otm.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:45 (twelve years ago)
t's that Lou Reed 1965-70 was operating on a ridiculously high level, songwriting wise.
Fogerty his only peer between 1968-1969.
yeah i agree -- and fogerty had stadiums full of people and hit singles to encourage him on his way. lou just had his own massive ego.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)
Sly
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)
yeah, sly. hendrix, too... [some people would probably say Townshend, but not I.]
― tylerw, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
I wouldn't say Hendrix but I'm in the minority on that dude. Townsend yeah I dunno not quite
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:56 (twelve years ago)
Hell, even I wouldn't say Townshend, at least not '68-'69. '68 only had "Magic Bus," "Call Me Lightning," and (the underrated) "Dogs," and 1969 had Tommy. But yeah, one rock opera and three singles does not a ridiculously high level of songwriting make.
His/their focus in '68 was touring anyway (and there are live versions of "Magic Bus" from '68 that make it sound like they took "Sister Ray" as a personal challenge)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 21:05 (twelve years ago)
How many "Odds & Sods" compilations have an "Ocean" to finish with?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)
well, both had record company problems.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:00 (twelve years ago)
If we're talking about the hot songwriting hand in the late 60s, Lou takes a backseat to nobody.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)
not that i'd necessarily put him above lou, but i'm just gonna mention ray davies
― da croupier, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:43 (twelve years ago)
Yeah he was great too. The Kinks poll was a revelation to me.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:45 (twelve years ago)
Neil and Lou Reed and John Fogerty at the top. Then Sly Stone and the guys that wrote those Rolling Stones songs.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:45 (twelve years ago)
two weeks ago i listened to White Light about twenty times in one night, i love the vocals and how they glide effortlessly above this pounding racket. plus how the song just starts, perfectly formed.
― brownie, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
only the Jagger/Richards pair beats Lou in this period imo (not counting James Brown since he's not really about songwriting)
― g simmel, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)
Looking forward to the top 10. I think it's fairly clear what they will be, but in what order? Hmmmm
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 03:25 (twelve years ago)
Candy Says as the 13th best song in a discography is just unbelievable. i'm not even disagreeing - like others have said, pretty much every song starting at 20 or 30 out is a stone cold classic.
lol at the beth gibbons version above, though. i like listening to her, but i don't think i could ever see her in concert because she'd be doing the beth gibbons face the entire time
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 03:33 (twelve years ago)
my impression from vu-heads was that love for the four albums was pretty evenly mixed, given how completely different they all are.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 03:33 (twelve years ago)
btw i'm listening to sweet sister ray AGAIN right now. i first heard it after i voted (but before the rollout, for some reason) and it would have been top 5 for me had i been aware of its existence!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 03:34 (twelve years ago)
trying to think of bands that have an outtakes collection like that that stands as tall in their canon.
The Monkees
― Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 09:01 (twelve years ago)
xp welcome back ZS and I am glad that I have turned some people on to that amazing perfmroance
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 15:04 (twelve years ago)
Sweet Sister Ray is amazing. I didn't vote, but that would have figured pretty high for me ....
― grandavis, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 17:17 (twelve years ago)
10. Some Kinda Love24 votes, 847 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkIJp722NVg
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:09 (twelve years ago)
^^^ should've been #1
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:10 (twelve years ago)
my favorite VU lyrics, I think
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:10 (twelve years ago)
9. Sunday Morning26 votes, 2 no. 1 votes, 855 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Cti12XBw4
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:11 (twelve years ago)
8. Heroin26 votes, 2 no. 1 votes, 874 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSL3Aod72eU
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:14 (twelve years ago)
7. Foggy Notion26 votes, 1 no. 1 vote, 884 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_6l2nBtTlQ
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
6. Sweet Jane29 votes, 1 no. 1 vote, 980 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAnJbF-mDbY
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:16 (twelve years ago)
5. Rock and Roll28 votes, 1009 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0EBEYq0x7o
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
4. I'm Waiting for the Man27 votes, 4 no. 1 votes, 1075 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ukvCaxbT-s
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:20 (twelve years ago)
3. Pale Blue Eyes32 votes, 1 no. 1 vote, 1123 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykoYHHh2Dwg
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:21 (twelve years ago)
"Foggy Notion" my #1.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:23 (twelve years ago)
2. Sister Ray31 votes, 6 no. 1 votes, 1162 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loPEa23zf7A
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:23 (twelve years ago)
Oh wow upset!
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:23 (twelve years ago)
1. What Goes On32 votes, 3 no. 1 votes, 1304 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0yiCpEvGTQ
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:24 (twelve years ago)
woah
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:24 (twelve years ago)
Good. ILM believes rhythm guitars rule.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)
should have seen it coming after it dominated the self-titled poll
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)
Xp And organs!
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)
Total combined results:
What Goes On 1304Sister Ray 1162Pale Blue Eyes 1123I'm Waiting for the Man 1075Rock and Roll 1009Sweet Jane 980Foggy Notion 884Heroin 874Sunday Morning 855Some Kinda Love 847Venus in Furs 832White Light/White Heat 829Candy Says 828Satellite of Love (Lou Reed) 785All Tomorrow's Parties 741Beginning to See The Light 736I Heard Her Call My Name 732Fear Is A Man's Best Friend 720Paris 1919 702Stephanie Says 689Coney Island Baby 678Street Hassle 663Femme Fatale 658Ocean 634I Can't Stand It 577These Days 558I'll Be Your Mirror 550Perfect Day 533Walk on the Wild Side 532New Age 508After Hours 492Lady Godiva's Operation 481The Black Angel’s Death Song 475Vicious 467Run Run Run 459Jesus 451Here She Comes Now 434I'm Set Free 424Hanky Panky Nohow 419Frozen Warnings 393Oh! Sweet Nuthin 389Waves of Fear 389Metal Machine Music 388Lisa Says 372Gun 339There She Goes Again 334Andy's Chest (Lou Reed) 312A Child's Christmas in Wales 301Style It Takes 298Who Loves The Sun 293Guess I'm Falling in Love 292I Found a Reason 287Buffalo Ballet 277Hedda Gabler 268I'm Not Sayin' 261Temptation Inside Your Heart 247Chelsea Girls 247She's My Best Friend 244The Blue Mask 244I Keep A Close Watch 243The Gift 240Andalucia 234I'm Sticking With You 220Ship of Fools 220The Murder Mystery 213head held high 213European Son 212Dying on the Vine 203The Fairest of the Seasons 199Kicks 195Leaving It Up to You 191Romeo Had Juliette 183I Love You, Suzanne 181Church of Anthrax 180Halloween Parade 179The Endless Plain of Fortune 173Cool it Down 162Ride Into the Sun 162gideon's bible 154Janitor of Lunacy 150Crazy Feeling 146It Was A Pleasure Then 144New York Telephone Conversation 144She's My Best Friend (Lou Reed) 142Egg Cream 141Big White Cloud 137Guts 133Thoughtless Kind 131Men of Good Fortune 127Dirty Blvd. 126Cordoba 119the bed 119Junior Dad 118Mr. Wilson 118Hey Mr. Rain 118The Kids 115Graham Greene 114Evening of Light 111My House 111Perfect 109Spinning Away 105Underneath the Bottle 104We're Gonna Have a Real Good Time Together 103Hey Mersh! 102Sad Song (Lou Reed) 99Open House 99Hangin' Round 97Legendary Hearts 95That's the Story of My Life 95Brandenburg Gate 93Nobody But You 93Charley's Girl 92Over You 92Women 91Make Up 91I'm Not a Young Man Anymore 89What's Good 88Hello It's Me 88Amsterdam 85The Ostrich 85The Hall of Mirrors in the Palace of Versailles 85Sylvia Said 85Pablo Picasso 84Heartbreak Hotel 83Afraid 81It Has Not Taken Long 81The Last Shot 80Smalltown 79Wild Child 78Roses in the Snow 76Big Sky 76The Bells 76New Sensations 75A Gift 75Caroline Says II 75Sad Song 70Set The Twilight Reeling 69The Soul Of Carmen Miranda 69Darling, I Need You 68Sun Blindness Music 66little sister 66Antarctica Starts Here 64I Wanna Be Black 64I Want to Boogie With You 63Wrap Your Troubles in Dreams 62Melody Laughter 62I Love You 60Families 58The Gun 53Day of Niagara 50Coyote 50Sweet Sister Ray 50
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)
uh that didn't come out right, but you get the idea
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)
Great top 10, think I voted for everything in it except I'm waiting for the man. And what goes on was also my number one.
thanks Shakey!
― ruth rendell writing as (askance johnson), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:27 (twelve years ago)
― sleeve, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:28 (twelve years ago)
whoa, wasn't expecting sister ray at anything but #1! i put together my ballot so that most of the solo stuff was at the top, but i couldn't help but put What Goes On way up at #4.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)
well, my picks from wlwh, the self titled and loaded were the same as ilm's. yes, I'm boring but I'm also correct!
― g simmel, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)
Hah the top 3 songs are so jam-bandy.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 19:39 (twelve years ago)
did not vote for "What Goes On", just didn't think about it when I threw my ballot together, & I wonder if it's partly the association with that awful horrible terrible Beatles song
― Euler, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)
Thanks, Shakey! Good results rundown.
― diffidently worth every cent!!! (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)
that awful horrible terrible Beatles song
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/5123066/Ringo+Starr+ringo.jpg
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)