yeah if delivering several of the coolest vocals in rock history is phoning it in... i was just listening to the Loaded "Sweet Jane" and it's an amazing vocal -- everyone might be used to it by now, but it really is an astounding performance.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:45 (twelve years ago)
OK, fair point
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)
yes, the only song on Loaded that I really really f withhad read about Loaded in the red Rolling Stone guide as a Holy Grail 5 star classic & I still think the album is kinda dopey, e.g. "Cool It Down", "Lonesome Cowboy Bill", "Train Round the Bend"
but that "Sweet Jane" is something else
― Euler, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)
i can understand the "cowboy bill" negativity. considering all of the other tunes they had to choose from, they chose that one? it's a fun little rave up, but it screams outtake. i love "train"'s guitar and wild vocal.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)
I don't mind "kinda dopey" Velvets tbh
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)
last time i listened to loaded though, the main thing that bugged me was that lou changed the lyrics (and didn't sing) "new age" -- it's pretty perfect on Live 1969.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)
I don't mind that either, I like Doug Yule's vocal and the new lyrics
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)
Live 1969 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loaded
― Euler, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)
Live 1969 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:56 (twelve years ago)
^ this
I'd been listening to "New Age" (on Loaded) for years and thinking it was Lou Reed singing before someone pointed it out to me it wasn't. Jesus, people (me) were so stupid before the internet.
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)
it is pretty amazing how *different* Live 1969 and Loaded are - I mean, if you saw the VU in late 69 and then heard Loaded the next year, I feel like you wouldn't even recognize the band. and they were recorded just a few months apart.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)
Jesus, people (me) were so stupid before the internet.
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.)
Jesus, help Tom find his proper place.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)
Loaded's my least favorite VU album but its one of my favorite bubble-gum rock albums of '70s
― da croupier, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:07 (twelve years ago)
yeah that's basically how I feel.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:08 (twelve years ago)
da croupier otm
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:09 (twelve years ago)
^^
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)
Just checking this out now. Are people criticizing Lou's vocals on Loaded? That is complete insanity.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:17 (twelve years ago)
Yes people are acting insane on this thread
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:25 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOVqwGCQodsdid this one make it? but srsly people can have their opinions, insane or not
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:27 (twelve years ago)
Loaded is probably my favorite least favorite album by any band. Yeah, and putting it up against Live 1969 is not a fair comparison.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:33 (twelve years ago)
cool it down and train are great!
the lyrics aren't really that far from other velvets stuff, and train has this great mechanical drive while cool it down has a great melody and along with the arrangement is really an early taste of transformer-era lou.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:33 (twelve years ago)
Loaded is probably my favorite least favorite album by any band.
hahahahathis is not possible
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:34 (twelve years ago)
he's saying that he prefers his least favourite VU album to his least favourite albums by other bands he likes, makes sense to me
― malapopism (wins), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)
True for me too. Past two-four albums, the statement starts to lose meaning, but for the Velvet Underground I understand and agree.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 16:38 (twelve years ago)
https://soundcloud.com/umesongs/the-velvet-underground-im-not
― fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:10 (twelve years ago)
<3 that song, morrison's riff is so killer. doesn't sound like they've worked any miracles with the source tape, but it sounded pretty good to begin with.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:16 (twelve years ago)
sounds better than the boot, excited!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:18 (twelve years ago)
whoops xp with tyler, what I mean is that the boot was 2nd-gen or more, not that this is a different source.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:19 (twelve years ago)
oh yeah, it sounds better for sure, just not like crazily better.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 18:20 (twelve years ago)
i listened to HHH in the car on my way to work today and it totally boosted my moodi feel bad for people who can't enjoy that song
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 19:40 (twelve years ago)
any idea when the rollout continues?
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 21:23 (twelve years ago)
Monday
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 23:45 (twelve years ago)
OK, have a good thanksgiving, man!
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)
Watched March of the Wooden Soldiers yesterday, in honor of this band and this thread.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 November 2013 13:35 (twelve years ago)
question: if i want maximum john cale information, what book should i read? i've only read that book about nico, no other VU books. i only read that because it was there at the library.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 29 November 2013 17:25 (twelve years ago)
Definitely read What's Welsh For Zen: The Autobiography of John Cale.
― Skatalite of Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 November 2013 17:58 (twelve years ago)
okay getting back on track here
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)
yay
― Mark G, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:32 (twelve years ago)
oh i forgot to bump this thread but i looked for that book and it's so expensive! why so out of print, john cale autobio?!!? no ebook, no nothing ;_;
otherwise yaay
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)
29. I'm Set Free15 votes 424 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pekTAkVeCAI
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
28. Here She Comes Now17 votes, 434 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH0359mOQc0
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:35 (twelve years ago)
27. Jesus17 votes, 451 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej23FImi6Cg
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)
26. Run Run Run18 votes, 459 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bp-ihtgzdE
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
25. The Black Angel's Death Song17 votes, 1 no. 1 vote, 475 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj1r8smLOmM
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:38 (twelve years ago)
well then... thought BADS would place higher!
― sleeve, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:44 (twelve years ago)
"I'm Set Free" boasts such a lovely Morrisolo.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:47 (twelve years ago)
i'm set free WAAAAAAAY too low imo
― da croupier, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:48 (twelve years ago)
"run run run" placing above it is insult to injury
yep - agree with that.
― kraudive, Monday, 2 December 2013 18:49 (twelve years ago)
Shakey when today's batch is done could you please post a summary of the results so far? My browser can't load the whole thread.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 2 December 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)