Lady Gaga - ARTPOP [2012]

her ama performance was kinda of show-stoppingly great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmhw7sFwhjo

Yeah, that's really good.

right? the transition from goofy JFK/marilyn thing to LADY GAGA IS OVER was surprisingly... poignant

yeah the way they fuck with the arrangement in opposite directions works really well

also i don't think there's anything like a statement in this at all, but in an age of so many racially clueless performances, i feel like this song and its performances have handled that aspect of it well - it's conscious of how it's perceived

i feel like a) gaga really gets kellz b) kellz' brand of ridiculousness brings out gaga's own best kind of ridiculousness c) they should do a lot more work together. like a whole album or a tour. scrap their current solo shit and do this instead

touring together would be cool. i wouldn't clamor for a bunch more collaborative songs, though.

i feel like a) gaga really gets kellz b) kellz' brand of ridiculousness brings out gaga's own best kind of ridiculousness

Yeah. This is why it's the album's high point: even with the deliberately kooky titles the music is too pedestrian to register.

Wow! What a great performance!

yeah the way they fuck with the arrangement in opposite directions works really well

^^^^absolutely this

beware, terry richardson directed the "do what u want" video

Of course he did. Because that dude can't leave the things I like alone.

i feel like a) gaga really gets kellz b) kellz' brand of ridiculousness brings out gaga's own best kind of ridiculousness c) they should do a lot more work together. like a whole album or a tour. scrap their current solo shit and do this instead

― lex pretend, Monday, 25 November 2013 19:19 (Yesterday) Permalink

almost how i feel about Mariah and Miguel

tho not to the same degree OBV

i got that about mariah and terius more, though wouldn't disagree that it's there with miguel too

i'm sorry i think i'm just having a reaction bc i listened to #beautiful three times in a row yesterday whilst smoking cigarettes on a fence and looking at the brooklyn sky and i remembered that comment that woman posted somewhere that someone reposted (was it you?) about how it's about a woman on her last nerve who needed to be fucked against a chainlink fence and you'll never know how good this song is, ever

and yeah, i just had a moment

but if Mimi and thedream came up with a full album of mind-shattering joints like the impossible i wouldn't be mad and i'd probably cancel christmas forever just to listen to it on my own

anyway go on.

http://www.fastcodesign.com/3021250/rockstar-graphic-designers-critique-lady-gagas-artpop-album-cover

Sorry, "rockstar graphic designers" made me break out into hives so I had to close the tab.

I thought "Venus" sounded pretty good live with the Muppets last night. But she really needs to release "Gypsy" as the next single".

yeah as a song, I like "Venus," especially the belting 'goddess of love' section. it has similar strengths and weaknesses to "Applause," though, I'm really glad it was passed over as next single in favor of "Do What U Want." do agree that "Gypsy" is a standout.

i guess she's not such a big fan of some of you

http://i.imgur.com/AJ4BcwF.png

There is something passive aggressive about Gaga's public personae that always turned me off.

yah. this she tweeted at the same time doesn't help

https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/422134283189243904

talent really doesn't last forever - even the very best often fall off after five/ten years.

wow @ these horrible analogies. i did not realize she was actually this stupid.

Listening to "Tits on the Radio" for the first time in years and thinking this is Gaga's best song.

Occurred to me that I still have not heard this album. Have it, have not heard it. Not sure I have the heart.

it's spotty but def worth hearing if you liked BTW/Fame Monster etc.

Skip the first two tracks, start with "G.U.Y." and then double-back around for "Venus". No one needs to hear "Aura," ever.

"would you critic a critic if you have no experience criticing?"

"Venus" is also terrible

"aura" is easily my 2nd fav song on this

i'm just a sucker for the "Rocket Number 9" reference in "Venus." when i was 15 my AOL screenname was 'RocketNo8' or something like that.

i definitely prefer this album to born this way, but it's still a very disappointing piece of work

i'm a sucker for the interlude where she names the planets in "Venus," because i always imagine a cool montage where all the girls from Sailor Moon triumphantly introduce themselves.

haha there are literally dozens of different youtube results for 'lady gaga venus sailor moon' so one of them's gotta be exactly what you're imagining

broadway looks so medieval

i think i might've made it through this once

Another anecdote: my wife, not to mention my kids, likes Lady Gaga, but I'm not sure any of them even know she has a new(ish) album out.

yeah, not surprising. album is at 600k, can't see it reaching a million at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNu_-deVemE

Over four minutes of that video are credits! I liked the version of "Artpop" she did on the Tonight Show though.

I hope that because the video features multiple songs from the album, that it's her way of washing herself clean of this whole album and that she's starting writing and recording for her next album.

I think that's already confirmed.

Probably in the minority here in that I'd say I enjoyed ARTPOP more than BTW, though I don't really think much of either album.

If she'd done the singles differently and gone "G.U.Y." then "Do What You What (feat. Christina)" then "Sexx Dreams" i feel like opinions on the album would be v different

what, worse? i feel like she pretty much did the best she could single-wise with what was on the album. "applause" is silly but in terms of catchiness and hooks one of the only stand-outs; "do what u want" was stymied by forces beyond its control. (the xtina version, no.) "g.u.y." is a pretty unremarkable song. "venus" remains appalling.

video seems like it's something her hardcore fans will love but not really much reason for anyone else to be interested. most overtly cheesily camp thing she's done? the sun god, jeez.

imo she should have done something with "swine" was is legit bizarre. completely uncommercial and abrasive but it's not like the more radio-friendly stuff was succeeding for her and her overall narrative desperately needs a dose of reinforcing whatever "genuine weirdo" elements remain rather than the flimsy, slightly embarrassing wizard of oz x sunset boulevard reductive thing she has going on.

*which was

i think a lot of people are very tired of "weirdo" gaga tho. releasing something as ugly as "swine" would have only alienated casual fans even further.

xtina version of dwuw is a hideous grunt off but until we get, like, miguel or something doing the second verse it's the most palatable version available

venus is bad, yeah. todd terje started his pitchfork paris set with a rework of it, was pretty LOL

anyway, i like the video. dance sequences in g.u.y are cute. although the real housewife playing the cello basically gave me an aneurysm.

people are tired of "weirdo" gaga because it's not actually very weird or clever, it's constantly telling but barely showing. i mean to an extent artpop is unsalvageable because of that, but "swine" could conceivably be an opportunity to just be obtuse and bizarre for real. yeah it's ugly and abrasive but even if it's not a success per se, that kind of thing can work for you in other ways. and it's more dignified than scrabbling around for radio hooks in an attempt to get a "hit".

what gaga hasn't worked out is how to present a project in such a way that a conversation about mere sales feels redundant (yeezus, blackout).

at this point her best single bet was probably "aura" like 6 months ago (lyrics or not)

the songs i really wanted to be singles were "Fashion!" and "Sexxx Dreams" or hell, in the wake of "Dark Horse" it probably would've been a good idea to release "Jewels N Drugs." but i agree that doing something really dark or strange with a video for a song like "Swine" might've been cool -- a couple days before this video came out of nowhere I noted on Twitter that it'd been 7 months since the "Applause" video and, in light of the shelved "Do What U Want" video, was the only video that one of the pre-eminent music video artists of our time had released for an album called ARTPOP.