i came out of my crash course in solo Lou so much more interested in Berlin (and The Blue Mask) than Transformer
― some dude, Monday, 25 November 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)
in a funny way, Lou's solo albums are all aberrations. none of them are like one another until he hits on the Saunders-Quine-Maher combo at the end of the decade.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 17:49 (twelve years ago)
I hadn't heard Berlin until the day after Lou died. Got immediately hooked on it, and almost put the whole record in my ballot.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 25 November 2013 17:49 (twelve years ago)
ANYWAY y'all ready for some Velvets results now
I had "The Kids" at #3, I believe, on my overall ballot (behind two VU songs). It's overblown, sure, but it destroys me every time.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 25 November 2013 17:50 (twelve years ago)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5513/10916137594_ef63db90d2.jpg
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 25 November 2013 17:50 (twelve years ago)
TIE51. Coyote1 vote, 50 pts
url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9aW9QVrbhc
Sweet Sister Ray1 vote, 50 pts
url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLVA6vp_DAM
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 17:51 (twelve years ago)
hmm wait that last youtube isn't right
is this it?url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFaOyQbDTKs
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)
hahaha my #1 vote for Sweet Sister Ray has paid off
I really truly love the song - the last major thing they they did with Cale aside from the 1968 studio session. Endless replay value, serious guitar work from Sterling especially, jamming til the cows come home, and a wonderful laid back vibe throughout. I may have played this track more than any other Velvets song over the course of my life,
Sweet Sister Ray went to a moviethat had come aroundIt was the biggest moviethat had ever come to town
Why this is the weirdest movieI've seen in my daysI've never seen a stranger film anywhere
Why I must be dead'cause I never felt this way ailveOh I've never felt this waysince nineteen fifty-fiveJust then Sister Rayfelt a hand on her knee[I'm] a young crippled orphanand I come here constantly
Why it's just like a mental hospitalthose don't have any locksJust then comes in the doctorgiving us electroshocks
All the vaseline on your foreheadmakes you feel so niceMy hair stood up on endand I thought I'd been froze(?) with a knifeOh I'm so prettypurple earrings and allNo one knew you were crazyThat you told 'em
Just then I sawa hole in the groundAnd I jumped right in'cause there was no one around
[long instrumental break into "Sister Ray"]
― sleeve, Monday, 25 November 2013 17:57 (twelve years ago)
yes that is the one (xp to Shakey)
― sleeve, Monday, 25 November 2013 17:58 (twelve years ago)
50. I Love You3 votes, 60 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fYCU40G7Pc
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 18:10 (twelve years ago)
yeah holy shit, sweet sister ray is mesmerizing, a totally one of a kind thing. what did they think they were doing? it just seems so far off from anything, maybe even more radical than the really wild/loud stuff.
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 18:17 (twelve years ago)
oddly enough i've never gotten around to hearing a version of sweet sister ray. iirc the first commercially available version was on the quine tapes, right?
― da croupier, Monday, 25 November 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)
nah, this is the only version of the song that's available. the sister rays on the quine tapes aren't "sweet."
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)
I'd never heard it before this poll
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)
it is a weird thing -- are cale, reed and morrison all playing guitar at points on sweet sister ray? cale switches over to keyboard at some point... is moe even on it?
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)
moe comes in toward the end
― balls, Monday, 25 November 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)
she went out to get a sandwich for the first half hour
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)
probably shopping
― balls, Monday, 25 November 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)
ha, yeah, she shows up when they start transitioning into the actual sister ray. who knows maybe she's even playing guitar somewhere in there.
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)
xp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHyeXrPUhLY
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 November 2013 18:58 (twelve years ago)
49. Melody Laughter2 votes, 62 pts
url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg44BKJhqk0
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 19:00 (twelve years ago)
48. Sad Song2 votes, 70 pts
url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxLrb-cuFz4
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)
how many vu songs aren't going to make this
― iatee, Monday, 25 November 2013 19:03 (twelve years ago)
47. I'm Not a Young Man Anymore2 votes, 89 pts
url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a63Qd63PaoM
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 19:03 (twelve years ago)
"Sad Song" is the only instance where I vastly prefer Lou's version (and the Velvets' version is no slouch). It really needs the bombastic arrangement.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 25 November 2013 19:04 (twelve years ago)
11
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 19:04 (twelve years ago)
haha, we should poll those after this is done. no one voted for "ferryboat bill", eh?
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
I'm not sure if there's a track literally nobody voted for.
my cutoff here was 50 points. the 11 songs that didn't place (incl Ferryboat Bill) got votes, but the total was less than 50
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)
please put a spoiler alert warning before you give out information like 'ferryboat bill didn't place'
― iatee, Monday, 25 November 2013 19:32 (twelve years ago)
the rest of the poll is basically meaningless now
haha oops sorry
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 19:35 (twelve years ago)
that's the short and long of it
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 19:39 (twelve years ago)
Sheltered Life FTW
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 25 November 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)
guys Mo is definitely playing drums on Sweet Sister Ray well before the 20-minute mark, yes it is a bootleg recording but come on now.
by the way, that recording was made by either Jamie Klimek or Peter Laughner, thank you Cleveland underground for preserving history.
If you want to drool over/be tantalized by another allegedly great lost VU song, look up "Sweet Rock And Roll":
http://olivier.landemaine.free.fr/vu/andsoon/lostsongs/lostsongs.html
― sleeve, Monday, 25 November 2013 20:20 (twelve years ago)
ha, i wonder if that was the show that my dad walked out ofhe was repulsed!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 25 November 2013 20:21 (twelve years ago)
The 44:00 "Sweet Temptation Inside Your Heart," recorded by Ric Ocasek at 4am after a Boston Tea Party show, with Lou on guitar, Doug and Moe on chatter, Sterl on snores.
― da croupier, Monday, 25 November 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)
now hearing sweet sr for the first time. This rules.
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 25 November 2013 20:40 (twelve years ago)
guys Mo is definitely playing drums on Sweet Sister Ray well before the 20-minute marki don't know, i think what sounds like drums occasionally is actually sorta percussive hits on guitar, if that makes sense.
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)
yeah sounds like strum noise to me too
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 25 November 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)
46. Over You3 votes, 1 no. 1 vote, 92 pts
url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC-Q6WGslBs
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 20:57 (twelve years ago)
love this one -- wonder why lou never revisited it during the solo years...
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)
45. That's the Story of My Life6 votes, 95 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N6rvkc7yQM
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 25 November 2013 21:04 (twelve years ago)
46 was my #1. thought it might go higher, who cares. such a beauty and that solo is so simple yet exquisite
― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Monday, 25 November 2013 21:20 (twelve years ago)
gonna be nothing but great songs from here on out...
― sleeve, Monday, 25 November 2013 21:36 (twelve years ago)
and hmm I defer to you actual musicians about the strum noise, maybe Mo did go shopping after all.
― sleeve, Monday, 25 November 2013 21:37 (twelve years ago)
xp
ah nice work outdoor_miner! Excellent #1! I was one of the other voters, really love it… almost feels like Lou showing delicate old-fashioned tin pan alley songwriter skills, which are such strange and lovely element in the VU mix.
― woof, Monday, 25 November 2013 21:51 (twelve years ago)
yeah, lyrically "over you" seems like billie holiday could've sung it.
― tylerw, Monday, 25 November 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)
that's fitting, given the lyrical nods to gershwin ("lady be good" in the chorus to "what goes on") and ellington ("i'm beginning to see the light" as a title and lyrical hook) on the grey album.
― one way street, Monday, 25 November 2013 22:16 (twelve years ago)