― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link
what's it like yancey? how d'you rate the other stuff?
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link
dude, totally fucking otm!
Yes, they are extremely good at what they do, and in retrospect it's a shame that the Franz/Libs NME-sponsored haircut-indie aesthetic picked up the hype when these boys always had the cool tunes and the lush atmospherics, not to mention the all important skinny hips and good-old fashioned self-loathing lyrics as noted above. And an ex-Cocteau producing ;)
the nme was all over their arses when lido came out. mark beaumont was creaming his pants over them (if anyone believes a word he says), and the eds let him. for pages an pages. different with cedars ... when that came out they couldn't give a fuck. i doubt they'll be any different with amber ... yeh i know you weren't really referring specifically to the nme but with a band like this the nme's importantish. fwiw i heart amber , but it took me a good 7 or 8 listens to pick up on all the cadences and refs and shit, and to get to the er implicated levels (ok, it is not such a complicated record, but to dismiss it on first listen would be doing the band and yourself a disservice: it's deceptive. praps specifically because of, rather than despite of, the simplicity).
i sort of predict and fear that they'll be one of these bands everyone namechecks in about 15/20+ years' time, when it's too late and they're all running b&bs in seaford or sth. their songwriting's superficially simplistic lyrically but the more you dig the more you win. awesome light and shade stuff going on throughout all their albums.
saw 'em at the borderline a couple of weeks back and omg it was great to have them back and everything and the new songs sounded wonderful (to the extent that i couldn't emotionally differentiate between new songs and old ones) but i miss the fervour of the old fans.
num i am gonna go listen to amber now.
― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 02:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link
also the first single is called 'good clean fun' (actually poss already out) and it sounds to me like dandys pre-courtney t-t-irritating-electronic-drum-playing-crap which is obv a great thing.
― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Another remix (not the Caribou one)of Good Clean Fun
― jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I have a list on my desk of albums I need to get. bah. I never get any.
― The Hills Are Alive With Celibate Cries (kate), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
then my credit card bill turns up :(
― jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah i know, i'm clueless..
― rizzx (Rizz), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― zeus (zeus), Thursday, 2 February 2006 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Greyhound (Dr Greyhound), Thursday, 2 February 2006 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Harpal (harpal), Thursday, 2 February 2006 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link
not at all impressed by this stooges channeled thru aerosmith sound
― rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 2 February 2006 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Greyhound (Dr Greyhound), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Would it be remarkably unfashionable of me to bring these guys up at this point? I like them.
― sorry for british (country matters), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I used to like them, too. Got bored of them quickly I guess. I guess it was the first album I had. I didn't know they were still recording.
― Tupperware Honey and Asshole Weeks (Bimble), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Bought and loved first album, saw them on tour at the time, didn't listen to anything after, haven't heard them for years. Lyrics on first album waaaaaaaaaaay too close to home for anything other than wallowing listening.
― e.e. cummingstonite (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2009 08:27 (fifteen years ago) link
NV's first sentence = ditto me except for thinking their second album was pretty great at the time and certainly slept on
― display mane (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 7 May 2009 08:47 (fifteen years ago) link
This thread makes me kind of want to listen to the second, I might track it down.
― e.e. cummingstonite (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2009 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link
second is ok.. diminishing returns as you progress through their catalogue though
― lolsdale street (electricsound), Thursday, 7 May 2009 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd hang with that tbh (maybe bumping the second album up a bit) but there's plenty of good stuff even on the third album ("No Kind Of Life", "You Can't Have Me", "Widescreen" and maybe a couple more). The penultimate tracks on the last two albums are pretty much the strongest songs on those respective albums; if anything, this band needed to blow up a little more. "Treat Yourself With Kindness" is *awesome*. Second-best track on that album is the one where they go almost as far with the sonics ("Come Into The Darkness").
First album is thoroughly excellent imo. Terrifyingly consistent with the classic tunes, its willingness to experiment doesn't once detract from the strength of the songs.
― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 7 May 2009 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Actually wtf am I talking about, "Almost The Same" is a fantastic little opener
― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Never heard the first album, but I love "Cedars," an album so thoroughly and convincingly pessimistic that its cheery opening track sounds like an ironic pisstake, and the redemptive closing one-two punch at the end actually feels earned.
Not too into the third record barring the great opener. These guys ever coming back?
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Listen to the first album! It's much sunnier, cheerier and more whimsical than Cedars, and has some cracking tunes.
― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link
to answer my own question, they are releasing some singles to fund a new album:
http://www.myspace.com/clearlakenoise
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
and then I realized "September" meant "September 2008." :(
― Simon H., Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Sunday, February 22, 2009 Brand new single "The Credit Or The Blame" out now!Current mood: busyCategory: MusicClearlake's new single "The Credit Or The Blame" was released on Friday February 20 - it can be previewed on the Myspace page now and bought exclusively from the website - http://www.clearlake.uk.comAs with the previous two singles, the proceeds are being used exclusively to fund the recording of new album "Dark Blue" - the album is now nearly complete and will be released later in 2009...Hope you enjoy the new song!
As with the previous two singles, the proceeds are being used exclusively to fund the recording of new album "Dark Blue" - the album is now nearly complete and will be released later in 2009...
Hope you enjoy the new song!
Doesn't sound like too much cause for concern tbh
― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 7 May 2009 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Currently listening:Sing to God parts 1 & 2By CardiacsRelease date: 1996-06-10
Actually, sounds quite promising imo
― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 7 May 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link
"Amber" has officially had the longest purchase-to-love gestation period of any album I own. The ultimate slow-burner. All three Clearlake records are very, very good. Bring on number 4 (in a month or two)!
― country matters, Saturday, 25 July 2009 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I suppose the new stuff is okay but I'd much rather make my own up, any day.
― General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2009 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Jason Pegg has a digital-only solo album out. Very nice stuff, like a less rocking Clearlake but still solid lyrics and memorable tunes.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 31 January 2010 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Pegg's new solo album is really good, and 'Might As Well' besides being the archetypical Pegg songtitle is kinda Cardiacsy :)
― imago, Sunday, 14 September 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the heads up, grabbing this now!
Any idea what became of Clearlake? Did they just disintegrate?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 14 September 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link
musical differences, I presume
Pegg's the one worth following, obv
― imago, Sunday, 14 September 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
decided that Lido is kind of the ultimate British indie record
― imago, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link
Heh, just thinking about these lads lately. As much as I dig "Lido", it's the power and energy of "Cedars" that does it for me.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 30 June 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link
it's Lido season (for the next five months)
― imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
Cedars is a longtime personal fave, brilliantly sequenced
― Simon H., Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
also fantastic
upthread predictions that they'd be referenced as a classic band in retrospect seem unfortunately wide of the mark. we'll remember you, clearlake
― imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link
Thanks for bumping this thread, spun "Lido" and "Cedars" for the first time in yonks. Still hold up, love the lyrics. I want to live in a dream!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 9 November 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link
their grasp of album sequencing on those first two records is wondrous
― imago, Friday, 10 November 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link
Lido meant a lot to me when it came out, I had just come out of a phase of doing a lot of drugs and had dropped out of uni and didn't know what was next, I had this mix of being kind of burnt out and a failure but also waking up to the world. It really captured that feeling so well that it felt like it had been written specifically for me.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 November 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link
Another Cedars fan here ... “wonder if the snow” and “trees in the city” are favorites I think pitchfork is how I found them
― calstars, Friday, 10 November 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link
so I see. however, I was not on the labels mailing list re earlier stuff so this will have to suffice.
― mark e, Friday, 3 August 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link
it's pretty good for something that will have to suffice
― imago, Friday, 3 August 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link
It's Getting Light outside was always a great mix opener.
― Yerac, Friday, 3 August 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link
Anything new from Jason Pegg since his 2nd solo album? I can't say those made much of an impression on me, though I did enjoy them.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 3 August 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link