I must politely disagree there. John Cale had a strong 80s. Music For a New Society is one of the true loony bin albums ever made. Honi Soit has some really strong material on it especially Dead Or Alive. And Caribbean Sunset has Hungry For Love, which should have been a hit.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 22 November 2013 03:03 (twelve years ago)
The three or four MFANS songs I'd save he recreated on Fragments; and I need "Dying on the Vine" live, not in its embalmed studio version.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 November 2013 03:05 (twelve years ago)
john cale's live stuff in the 80s is great, the studio albums terrible
this is really goodhttp://www.allmusic.com/album/live-at-rockpalast-mw0002013704
― iatee, Friday, 22 November 2013 03:38 (twelve years ago)
gonna throw in another recommendation for Cale's Sabotage at this point, particularly the 13-minute 'Captain Kidd.'
― sleeve, Friday, 22 November 2013 15:16 (twelve years ago)
sabotage is really a trip. also worth seeking out is the even cowgirls get the blues release from around the same time. terrible sound quality, amazing performances.
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)
& yeah iatee otm -- that rockapalast collection is killer. i really like john cale!
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)
I wasn't anywhere close to voting for it on a 20-song ballot, but I did like this Cale song from a couple of years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRU1oAfGEU0
― clemenza, Friday, 22 November 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)
yeah, i thought nookie wood had some very good stuff on it... i do need to go back and really listen to cale's stuff from the last decade and a half. here's something from his eat/kiss soundtracking that i always loved -- if yr a fan of the gift, the jeweler etc, it's a musthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHyzNJGwWWQ
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 15:55 (twelve years ago)
I regret not voting for his instrumental tune on the I Shot Andy Warhol soundtrack.
― Euler, Friday, 22 November 2013 16:16 (twelve years ago)
wall to wall smileshttp://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/25025919/Lou+Reed++John+Cale+Lou+John+and+Andy.jpg
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 16:32 (twelve years ago)
okaaay top 5...
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 16:48 (twelve years ago)
5. Lou Reed "Street Hassle"22 votes, 663 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2532gJcCsA
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 16:50 (twelve years ago)
so the Velvets rollout is next week? I really appreciate you breaking the results apart, Shakey.
― sleeve, Friday, 22 November 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
well, it'll start next week. dunno if I'll finish it before the holiday
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 16:58 (twelve years ago)
just checking out things I hadn't heard before and Church of Anthrax was not what I expected.
thought it would just be a drone + some screechy bits tbh,
This is great.
(Not saying drone + screech would be bad, place in my heart for that too)
― woof, Friday, 22 November 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
yeah i think Cale specifically said that he wanted to put riley in a poppier element. not that it's a pop album by any stretch...
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 17:03 (twelve years ago)
I'm still curious about who Adam Miller was and how he wound up singing on that album. Return to Church of Anthrax (please make this happen, someone) would sound pretty cool even 40+ years later.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:05 (twelve years ago)
4. Lou Reed "Coney Island Baby"20 votes, 2 no. 1 votes, 678 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwLlvcDi4PQ
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:09 (twelve years ago)
this poll has convinced me that I need copies of CIB, The Bells, and Take No Prisoners.
― sleeve, Friday, 22 November 2013 17:10 (twelve years ago)
I have a Lou Reed 5CD set, starts w/ 1st, Transformer, and Berlin, plus 2 others..
― Mark G, Friday, 22 November 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)
another win for slow jams
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:20 (twelve years ago)
Just listened to CIB on the train today. I think I like the alt take of the title song more than the master take.
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:21 (twelve years ago)
I agree the demo/alt version is pretty interesting - it has an inviting, shambolic quality. but the rhythm section doesn't stay together, and it doesn't quite reach gliding beauty of the official version. imho.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:26 (twelve years ago)
the end of Coney Island Baby always gets me. What a great way to finish an album.
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 17:27 (twelve years ago)
and the live versions out there (I found one w Quine) seem to go for bombast, which feels like the wrong direction to take the song
xp
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:28 (twelve years ago)
the alt take of 'she's my best friend' otoh is almost too bad to be lol
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
yeah those demos are so weird, they have such a completely different, more aggressive vibe! much closer to the stuff on Street Hassle with the ugly distortion and weird rhythms. Except for Downtown Dirt, which is so much more subdued than the album version. It makes Lou seem like he must have been really difficult in the studio, just really temperamental, changing his mind all the time etc.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)
the coney island baby demo is the one where lou is like "come onnnnnnnn, manna" at the beginning right? always makes me laugh.
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 17:41 (twelve years ago)
3. John Cale "Paris 1919"19 votes, 702 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5YHqWqhFkU
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)
Paris 1919 was my #5. What a song! you're a ghost la la la la la la la
― ruth rendell writing as (askance johnson), Friday, 22 November 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)
"Street Hassle" was #2 on my ballot, and it still feels too low. The Chicago '78 version is just ferocious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skTVzt1LyQ8
― one way street, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:14 (twelve years ago)
this will be a rather solid top 5 if Fear beats out SOL. SOL is great and all but not really a good number one.
― g simmel, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)
I am still skeptical fear made it to the top 2 but I really can't think of anything else
― iatee, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)
agree agree agree
not yet in the ground
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)
also someone needs to do this with the beatles solo careers
― iatee, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)
that's not a bad idea. I bet Macca would dominate tbh
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:32 (twelve years ago)
Fear has to be in this poll somewhere, and if it hasn't made it yet, then I guess it's top 2.
― ruth rendell writing as (askance johnson), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:32 (twelve years ago)
i sang it 3x on my way to work today! it has to show up.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:32 (twelve years ago)
2. Lou Reed "My Name is Mok"30 votes, 12 no. 1 votes, 1,250 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJa0Zv5gHSU
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)
Angus Maclise may surprise you all yet
― famous for hits! (seandalai), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)
my #1!!! xp
― famous for hits! (seandalai), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
lol shakey
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
clearly inferior to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMxyIs8MkmU
― iatee, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
j/k
the REAL no. 2 is
2. John Cale "Fear is a Man's Best Friend"21 votes, 720 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iAAe_7_HOw
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:35 (twelve years ago)
yay
― iatee, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)
i think this is the first cale solo song i ever heard. it remains amazing.
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)
pretty amazed that beat 'perfect day' among other things
― iatee, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
This is kind of surprising. I was sure Street Hassle was going to be first by a Gimme Shelter-esque landslide.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
1. Lou Reed "Satellite of Love"27 votes, 1 no. 1 vote, 785 pts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXESfMD01h8
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 22 November 2013 18:39 (twelve years ago)
haha, weird... that is not the song i would've though would be at #1!
― tylerw, Friday, 22 November 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)